Discussion:2019 Novel Corona Virus (Covid19) and It's Political Ramifications #3

[Ridgerunner]

And how many people are dying from other diseases because we have concentrated all our efforts on fighting covid-19 at the expense of treating those diseases?

[moos54]

5 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

And how many people are dying from other diseases because we have concentrated all our efforts on fighting covid-19 at the expense of treating those diseases?

you have to have priorities in life, and for the moment the covid is the main priority for everyone because it is transmitted very quickly

[StarLight28]

2 hours ago, StarLight28 said:

Medikamente können Menschen heilen ? Ein Traum von Narren.  Medikamente können nur die Selbstheilungskräfte von Menschen positiv aktivieren - und nicht mehr !!

Der eine Mensch reagiert auf eine Droge positiv, der andere negativ oder seine Situation verschlechtert sich sogar.

Welches Medikament hat Nutzen und schädigt den Patienten als "Nebenwirkung" nicht zusätzlich ?? 

Ich habe hunderte von Menschen auf Intensivstationen sterben sehen - Top-befreundete Chefärzte hatten keine Chance diese Menschen zu retten.

Diese Menschen-Organismen konnten die Hilfe von Menschen nicht mehr annehmen - und sie sind gestorben und konnten medizinische Hilfe von Top-Ärzten nicht mehr annehmen.  🤕

Ein Universal-Medikament im Kapitalismus-Prinzip ist Fehl-Glaube von Deppen !!

 

In einem muß ich Ridge Recht geben. Der Kampf gilt der perfiden widerlichen kapitalistisch-orientierten unmenschlichen Medikamenten-Industrie.

Vor Jahren war ein Blutdrucksenkendes Mittel für € 50 pro Einheit auf dem Markt. Ärzte verschrieben die Pillen erfolgreich auch bei "Krebspatienten". Folge, das Medikament wurde vom Markt genommen und identisch unter neuem Namen zur Indikation für Krebspatienten für € 2.000 pro Einheit verkauft. Ich hasse diese dreckigen kapitalistischen Schweine !!

Und Ridge mag dieses asozieale Verbrecher-Gesindel ? Ich glaube das nicht.

So dumm kann doch kein lebender Mensch sein, oder doch ?

 

 

Keiner der selbst ernannten Corona-Spezialisten hier im Forum traut sich auf die vorliegenden Fakten zu melden - sondern nur flaches Geschwätz.

Anstatt träumen, den Fakten ins Auge sehen. Ich warte auf sachliche Beiträge. Die USA sind gesundheitspolitische Versager und versuchen China zu beschuldigen

um von ihrem inneren politischen Versagen abzulenken. Eine primitive und billige Masche. Meine US-Freunde hier im Forum haben die Hintergründe offenbar

noch nicht begriffen. Schade, Schade ! 😁

 

[happyone]

16 minutes ago, maxfactor said:

Covid has been found to cause thickening of your blood, that's why if they don't give blood thinners right away, you your heart will need to work harder...not good for those with heart disease in the first place.  So yeah they get counted as covid deaths.

https://nationalpost.com/news/covid-19-is-causing-blood-to-thicken-common-blood-thinners-might-keep-it-from-killing-the-sickest

That is one article--here is another that says thinners do not work---so what we have is uncertainty about the facts relating to COVID 19 until more significant studies are made

Coronavirus blood-clot mystery intensifies

WWW.NATURE.COM

---

Research begins to pick apart the mechanisms behind a deadly COVID-19 complication. Research begins to pick apart the mechanisms behind a deadly COVID-19 complication.

Blood thinners don’t reliably prevent clotting in people with COVID-19, and young people are dying of strokes caused by the blockages in the brain. And many people in hospital have drastically elevated levels of a protein fragment called D-dimer, which is generated when a clot dissolves. High levels of D-dimer seem to be a powerful predictor of mortality in hospitalized patients infected with coronavirus³.

 

[Ridgerunner]

2 minutes ago, moos54 said:

you have to have priorities in life, and for the moment the covid is the main priority for everyone because it is transmitted very quickly

Most hospitals in the U.S. have many empty beds because they stopped treating other diseases and then never experienced the predicted surge of covid-19 hospitalizations. Many of those hospitals have greatly reduced their staffs because of lost of revenues.  Some may never recover financially and may be forced to close.

[happyone]

10 minutes ago, StarLight28 said:

 

 

None of the self-proclaimed Corona specialists here in the forum dares to report the facts available - just flat chatter.

Instead of dreaming, face the facts. I am waiting for factual contributions. The United States is a failure in health policy and is trying to blame China

to distract from their internal political failure. A primitive and cheap scam. My US friends here in the forum obviously have the background

not yet grasped. What a pity ! 😁

 

So what about the other 99 countries around the world that want answers from China????

As always--you condemn the USA and in another post earlier--capitalism 

[maxfactor]

3 minutes ago, happyone said:

That is one article--here is another that says thinners do not work---so what we have is uncertainty about the facts relating to COVID 19 until more significant studies are made

Coronavirus blood-clot mystery intensifies

WWW.NATURE.COM

---

Research begins to pick apart the mechanisms behind a deadly COVID-19 complication. Research begins to pick apart the mechanisms behind a deadly COVID-19 complication.

Blood thinners don’t reliably prevent clotting in people with COVID-19, and young people are dying of strokes caused by the blockages in the brain. And many people in hospital have drastically elevated levels of a protein fragment called D-dimer, which is generated when a clot dissolves. High levels of D-dimer seem to be a powerful predictor of mortality in hospitalized patients infected with coronavirus³.

 

Um...the question is not weather thinners work...I am pretty sure it's a hit and miss and timing is likely critical.  The argument if you read it before my post is that heart attacks are being counted as Covid deaths...if Covid causes your blood to thicken and you have a heart attack, then logically Covid was the cause of your death. 

[moos54]

4 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

Most hospitals in the U.S. have many empty beds because they stopped treating other diseases and then never experienced the predicted surge of covid-19 hospitalizations. Many of those hospitals have greatly reduced their staffs because of lost of revenues.  Some may never recover financially and may be forced to close.

The situation in the United States remains very complex
In France, all non-essential operations have been postponed so that a large part of the doctors and nurses take care of the patient positive covid for this first and I hope unique wave
If the front covid calms down then they will be able to resume their original work as well as the operations that were planned

[maxfactor]

17 minutes ago, StarLight28 said:

 

 

Keiner der selbst ernannten Corona-Spezialisten hier im Forum traut sich auf die vorliegenden Fakten zu melden - sondern nur flaches Geschwätz.

Anstatt träumen, den Fakten ins Auge sehen. Ich warte auf sachliche Beiträge. Die USA sind gesundheitspolitische Versager und versuchen China zu beschuldigen

um von ihrem inneren politischen Versagen abzulenken. Eine primitive und billige Masche. Meine US-Freunde hier im Forum haben die Hintergründe offenbar

noch nicht begriffen. Schade, Schade ! 😁

 

Your credibility is on ignore jackass

[Ridgerunner]

24 minutes ago, StarLight28 said:

 

 

None of the self-proclaimed Corona specialists here in the forum dares to report the facts available - just flat chatter.

Instead of dreaming, face the facts. I am waiting for factual contributions. The United States is a failure in health policy and is trying to blame China

to distract from their internal political failure. A primitive and cheap scam. My US friends here in the forum obviously have the background

not yet grasped. What a pity ! 😁

 

So why do people from all over the world come to the U.S. to receive medical treatment?

[maxfactor]

This scientist seems to be onto something.  He's been doing the media rounds and his explanation of covid and his link to a cure is very easy to understand and gives some hope.

Ignore the two afternoon drive idiots...the guest on the phone is pretty compelling 

Cure for COVID-19 Found?

WWW.IHEARTRADIO.CA

---

We talk to Dr. Sachdev Sidhu, of the University of Torontos Donnelly Centre for Cellular and Biomolecular Research about what his team has discovered.

 

[letsdothis]

4 hours ago, Ridgerunner said:

And I was talking about the Lancet study. So? What's the problem? I'm only allowed to talk about what you want to talk about?  

Most people stay on the same subject until the discussion is done. You
rarely stick to the same subject long enough to make a coherent sentence.
Just like your buddy "t". It's called misdirection, subterfuge, etc. He uses it
to divert attention when he doesn't want to talk about something or answer
a question. You should get a job in his administration. He would love you.
You could be little "t".