Ridgerunner Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 19 hours ago, Maturin said: Hands up don't shoot was a total lie. Michael Brown attacked the police officer in Ferguson and attempted to take his gun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 hours ago, SierraTM said: What are you trying to prove or imply with your comment? I don't think you are making sense, or in fact you are looking for excuses like your idol usually does 😏 If there are really more black people killed unlawfully by police officers compared to being killed by other black people, then the United States of America is just a fucking bigger cartel-infested, drugs-galore MEXICO. Okay. Far more Black people are killed by other Black people everyday in the U.S. than are unjustifiably killed by police officers in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG 150 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Or even justifyably killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Of course "Black Lives Matter"===in fact "All Lives Matter", but what bothers me with the "Black Live Matter" slogan is that it seems to only matter if a black person is killed by law enforcement or a white person.--so they organize mass protests -then the inevitable cowards that take advantage to riot and pillage communities. But, I have not seen any similar mass protests where a black person is killed by another black person or not killed by law enforcement or a white person. It would seem that to be a just and noble cause that the death of a black person by any means would carry the same message --no matter who the perpetrator was. There is in fact an inequality that exists. There is no denying that, but there has to be some consistency for the message to be effective IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 In the protest marches I've seen signs that say "Defund the Police", "Abolish the Police", and "Close Jails". Many Democrat politicians agree with those signs. I think we should do a one month trial run on those policies. For one month all police officers in the country should stay at home off duty and all jails and prisons should be closed and prisoners released. Lets see how that works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: In the protest marches I've seen signs that say "Defund the Police", "Abolish the Police", and "Close Jails". Many Democrat politicians agree with those signs. I think we should do a one month trial run on those policies. For one month all police officers in the country should stay at home off duty and all jails and prisons should be closed and prisoners released. Lets see how that works out. As John Mcinroe would say "You cannot be serious" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntEater Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 10:26 PM, SierraTM said: I admit I do not know much about the history of BLM or have experienced racial discrimination in the US but I believe, most of us should be supporting equality for all, irregardless of race, religion, gender and colour. BLM was founded by 3 black women on social media, started out as an online campaign before moving on to street protests and activism in school campuses. It does not really have a organisational structure and central hierarchy although it has many chapters in the US & Canada. There isn't a proper constitution written by the founders except for some guiding principles. My issue with this is that basically anyone can simply hashtag #BlackLivesMatter and say whatever they feel about this movement without much prior understanding or experience with it. Everything seems to be moved by emotions and social anger, driven by words and actions of others. Those with ill-intentions, with little real concern for equal treatment for all, can easily hijack this movement with their own agendas. I feel America is plagued by such selfish people who are creating divisions amidst chaos to achieve their agendas. You do not need to join the protest or make yourself heard to fight for equality for all. You can be in this fight simply by treating everyone you know or meet equally with respect and unbiasedness. You can be in this fight by speaking up for equality WHEN IT HAPPENS and not AFTER IT HAD HAPPENED. Not sure if the lads here understand what I mean but well. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. Letter From A Birmingham Jail, Martin Luther King. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntEater Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Do people really truly believe that this discussion thread would have been started and this conversation would have been had had people peacefully protested and not created chaos and disruption? Do people really think this conversation would be happening all around the world by people of all races had there been no chaos to force them to pay attention? "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed." - MLK This is what demanding looks like and has always looked like throughout history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, AntEater said: Do people really truly believe that this discussion thread would have been started and this conversation would have been had had people peacefully protested and not created chaos and disruption? Do people really think this conversation would be happening all around the world by people of all races had there been no chaos to force them to pay attention? "We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed." - MLK This is what demanding looks like and has always looked like throughout history. But liberal progressive Democrats have controlled government in almost all these racist U.S. cities for at least 50 years. In Minneapolis the last time there was a Republican mayor was 1973. Derek Chauvin had 18 previous complaints against him. Why did the liberal progressive government leadership in Minneapolis keep him on the police force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntEater Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 3:50 PM, TBG 150 said: So...one asshole cop does wrong. It's his superiors that should be questioned and fired along with him. He had 18 prior complaints lodged against him. How many cops both black and white have to kill a perpetrator that is white? Do white people get out and burn their city down, rob small businesses, overturn their neighbors cars? NO! Only the savages do. They are only using it as an excuse to rob, burn and pillage. That is why I label them savages. I know and work with many black men and women. These people think the way I do. They are aware that the savages are giving black people a bad name because of their actions. So don't start on the racial shit. You are a one sided blind person. Stick with the porn threads and keep your lack of intelligence out of here. Ah so the murderous cop and his crew are exempt from the savage label huh? He's just some asshole that should be fired (not even arrested lol!) cause you know he can't do his job properly. But the angry people lashing out with a good reason are just savages? You probably don't even realize it but even from your comment you can tell you have more compassion for the cops than the so-called-"savages". Also "I know and work with many black men and women." Hahahahahaha. No. Just no. It's 2020 man. Time to start listening more and talking on behalf of other people less. The ‘Some of My Best Friends Are Black’ Defense - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM It’s a myth that proximity to blackness immunizes white people from doing racist things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, Robwin said: As John Mcinroe would say "You cannot be serious" No, I'm not serious about this; but BLM and the Democrats are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntEater Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: But liberal progressive Democrats have controlled government in almost all these racist U.S. cities for at least 50 years. In Minneapolis the last time there was a Republican mayor was 1973. Derek Chauvin had 18 previous complaints against him. Why did the liberal progressive government leadership in Minneapolis keep him on the police force? LMAO sorry I don't play two boxes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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