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I see we are of two different camps on who manipulates in Voronezh. Is mostly an esoteric debate but interesting. I will say I do not see Christy controlling things at all. She couldn't seduce Phil, only fucks Messa when Nastya leaves, doesn't seduce Nastya to try to get to the three way where she could easily fuck Messa. I will agree however that although I think Nastya is the manipulator, probably she is insecure and isn't smart. So sometimes she does obvious clingy or possessive things with Messa, other times perhaps just trying to help Christy on Phil she tapes the conversation and plays it for Christy not realizing the consequences. And Messa just wants to fuck either girl or both, no manipulation there.

I think it is true that the goal when they come into VV is that the should entertain us and have much sex, but that being human beings and not porn stars, at least in Voronezh, they form transient relationships, like certain things and people and dislike certain things and people. This is the basis of the drama we have seen. Once the parties are comfortable around each other, the drama starts and the fun and sex will occur easier. It has started in Voronezh. Also, they know that if they don't ultimately perform they are gone.

More joy and fun than I have seen in a while in Voronezh. Laughing, playing silly games. If they all get along, we may see some three ways. At least finally, no drama!

Looks like Christy is moving in, brought in suitcase, is unpacking. She seems happier today. Finally, no drama in Voronezh! Nastya not manipulating finally, feels ok with Messa and the three of them together. May see a three way later. Christy's hidden sexy may come out tonight. Funny thing is, if these three get along well and have three ways, another guy coming in could complicate it. Oh well!

Yeah, people are only now starting to appreciate K & K. They were the best thing that ever happened to RLC. Enormous pages on CC were devoted just to K & K. Even though they never actually had sex, it was the most enthralling, sexy, addicting months on RLC. The coupling of the girls just happened, will be hard to duplicate. A lot of it honestly, was Kristy, who was the sexiest, most fun girl ever, who brought out the sexy in Kamilla who had been shyer the first time she was on rlc. It was like winning the lottery, it just isn't likely to ever be duplicated. Oh, you may get some great couples, great sex, sexy girls like Leora, but 2 girls like K & K, never. That is why myself and so many guys on CC were so distraught when they had to leave and kept hoping they would come back. But, life moves on, they moved on. We can only hope they can ever get girls approaching that.

At least Sara gets undressed in public. She is hot, does look promising, just needs a boyfriend to bring home. White though, I don't know.

He came on her face? That's one thing the girls on RLC or VV don't do much, take a facial. Some swallow cum though.

Is she the girl that had the three way with Nina and Kira?

Cristy finally went to bed in her bed. See what happens tomorrow in this soap opera tragedy. Will Cristy and Nastya kill each other? Who will fuck who tomorrow? Can Messa last more than 5 minutes? It's a freaking joke.

That quote was from before I realized how Nastya manipulates people. I think she fooled everyone. Messa's situation is simple, he wants to fuck any girl that moves, typical guy. Now, he wants to fuck Cristy, but Nastya tries hard to prevent it. Ironic isn't it, Nastya started it when she had Cristy fuck Messa, probably because she wanted Phil and Cristy broken off so she could go after Phil. It backfired on Nastya. Phil is gone, Messa wants Cristy. Cristy and Nastya were screaming at each other, I think we all know its about Messa though probably his name was never mentioned in the fight. Now, Nastya holds onto Messa like a black widow. A guy like him is probably suffocating inside, no freedom. Only thing that can prevent a big rupture now is a good guy for Cristy.

Maybe. She looks like somewhat of a lost soul now. Needs a guy. Has a nervous leg tic. I know a lot of young people have it.

That would be fun if she masturbated. She can't sleep, lying on couch. Maybe doesn't want to sleep on bed where Phil slept tonight.

Noticed they already put Cristy's name on bedroom. Contract may not be far behind. Next comes next guy to try out for apartment. They tried 3 before Messa made it. Cristy doesn't look too picky, just give her a guy who pays attention to her and likes to fuck her.

Messa and Nasya in bed, Messa acting like he is asleep, wants to fuck Cristy, who looks like she is waiting for him. However, Nastya may spoil plan by working on Messa under the covers trying to knock him out. She should just drug his drinks. Just kidding, I think.

They just had sex. They are way hotter than most RLC couples. Their sex is very hot because they obviously care about each other and they love to experiment. Daniel fucked her and came on her breasts and then Adriana brought herself off with her fingers. Masha and Sasha, though they have great sex, seem more like porn stars. Nelly and Bogdan are clearly in love and have great sex but the lighting in that apartment is terrible. If they have more couples like Adriana and Daniel, RLC wouldn't be losing subscribers to Voyeur Villa.

She looks unbelievably bored. I don't know that she thinks she can fuck Messa anymore tonight with Nastya all over him. Maybe sneak one in tomorrow at some point. Where is this apartment going? Nowhere until new guy for Cristy.

Cristy and Nastya bring to mind the expression, if looks could kill. Cristy kind of wants Messa, so Nastya clings to Messa, absolute possessiveness. Really bad, VV needs to quickly get Cristy new guy. Probably Messa and Cristy sex was quick because they didn't know if Nastya could walk back in any minute. And you are right, Cristy does sneak behind people's backs (Phil when they had the three way and Nastya when she leaves). We all knew that Messa has no scruples or caring at all and will fuck any girl who is good looking who is willing.

Wow, major fight between Nastya and Cristy, I think Cristy finally sees through Nastya's manipulations. Messa wants to disappear.

I think Cristy is starting to feel big burden lifted off her. Nasta always cozies up to Messa and has sex with him if her position is threatened with regard to having a male partner (i.e., Cristy). Yet, at the same time she kind of likes Cristy, so it is a little awkward. I think eventually we will see three ways until they bring in partner for Cristy. I think one person said this one time, Voronezh is the apartment which is not just sex but develops transient relationships between the parties. I think VV feels it adds some "real life" spice to the sex. People then pick characters they like and it becomes a more true voyeur experience instead of just porn like Tver. The upside to this strategy is also the downside. People in Voronezh get angry, mad, sad, cry, play games (Nastya) and have sex. Relationships not just based on sex can then rupture easily as feelings get in the way of their real roles, to show us exciting sex. And we get attached to characters, have favorites, get in too far and then when things go south we feel it too. I like the Voronezh concept better than Tver, but screening the people can be hard and you don't know what you will get. Sure, they usually get people who like a lot of sex (although Phil might have been an exception), but they cannot always tell based on an interview about their personalities, quirks, etc. So, then they need to watch the participants closely, watch the group dynamics. Cristy might be the unique person who likes sex a lot, but has no artifice, plays no sneaky games. So can she last in the rough and tumble VV game? Nastya is the ultimate game player. She tempted Phil, manipulated Cristy and Messa. I liken VV to big brother show with sex as the ultimate goal and tool. You have to learn how to survive. Tanya, Dizi, Phil couldn't survive. Messa and Nastya may for a while, Petra, Ivo, Akira, Charlie and Sonia are definitely survivors. Well, anyway, that's my analysis. I still watch despite my frequent desires to leave. But, I think I will start to wind down a bit with watching as it is not as interesting, the sex is not usually that interesting (except between Akira and Charlie and girl to girl between Sonia and Petra) and now I get the game. It is like someone who is hooked on watching Survivor or Big Brother and eventually tiring of it.

Interesting. I wonder if Nastya will end up leaving as well and Cristy and Messa end up together. Though I think Cristy doesn't really want to room with Messa, just fuck him. I don't understand why Nastya is upset though. Didn't she record the conversation with Phil and play it for Cristy with the purpose of getting Phil out? If she didn't realize that would happen, she is just stupid (quite likely).

So Phil left the project? I can't say I am surprised. VV got so many complaints about toxic atmosphere in Voronezh caused mostly by Phil. Goes to show that you can effect change when you speak up. Money talks and VV heard. I take no pleasure in Phil being forced out. He was mostly a good person until Cristy came in. It was a slow motion end to his tenure. They kept bringing in girls for him. The crazy girl, then Cristy, tried Dizi earlier. Nothing worked. Sonia was the only one he wanted and she left him for Ivo. Cristy was really the one who liked him, but he didn't like her. I think he mostly liked joking around with guys like Messa and light flirting with girls (Dizi, Petra). He was mostly a loner though. Now, the question is who do they bring in to replace him. I notice that Messa and Cristy are both asleep separately now. Did Nastya go out to allow them to have sex? And did she go to meet Phil after he left. Still think she liked him, but that's over. Other question is how do they handle budding relationship between Cristy and Messa? I don't think she is close with him, thinks he is funny and likes sex with him. I think they need a more easier going guy to replace Phil, one who is not a loner and who likes to fool around and joke.

Who is the third girl?

I think that I will try to convince as many people as possible to leave VV before I leave if VV does not address the situation with Phil and Cristy by the weekend. I see no movement from their end. I can't cope with this unbelievable tension there. It could have been good if only Phil and Cristy got along. It looked so promising at the beginning. I think Phil brought her into the project, so I don't get his betrayal of her. They don't even do sexy games anymore because Cristy is not in the mood. the others try to cheer her up and she tries to have fun, but it is too difficult. If VV threatens to kick out Phil, maybe he'll either leave or change his tune. He has a job to do. He and Cristy were obviously sexually compatible, witness the sex they had at the beginning. So, Phil doesn't even have to be close with Cristy, just have sex occasionally and play the games and talk to people. She doesn't have to be his girl friend, if he doesn't want.

Nastya is being fucked by Messa under the covers now. So they are ok at least. Of course, I don't know why under the covers.

I haven't watched this apartment for a long time except for guests or parties. I looked in now, Demid is fucking Dasha under the covers. He is so lame. First of all, that rips us subscribers and RLC off, since they are having sex but hiding from the cameras. If they didn't want to have sex, that's one thing. But to get a free rental for nothing isn't right.