Nicole & Karl

[letsdothis]

4 minutes ago, Robwin said:

It's ok Let's it was Amy I was replying to for starting up this fucking stupid topic in the first place 

I understood you were replying to Amy, but you reminded me of that
point I meant to put in my original post and I just wanted to be clear
on it. I should have put it in a new post, instead of quoting you. Or,
just quoted my original post.

[waldi]

43 minutes ago, letsdothis said:

I should have mentioned I wasn't specifically speaking about Nicole &
Karl. Just in general about anyone considering joining VHTV. I don't
want them to leave for any reason.

for me it doesn't matter, they can leave at any time; I don't watch that apartment at all; I'm not interested in watching black & white blots for such an amount of money and hearing bullshit about progress they do, or whatever else. Of course, naivety of some people is beyond believing, so let them go for it, I don't mind.

[happyone]

15 hours ago, Amy3 said:

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen! The proof I've been looking for. I agree, what we see here is in fact a vanilla version of these people's actual lives. Oh sure, it's always possible for people to record content and plaster it on the internet, but is this really that common among voyeur content? Compared to porn, hardly! Plus, it then becomes the job of the site to squash and leaked footage. I've said this for a long time. The subscriber would be far better served with much better and diverse content without the existence of the archives and dare I say it, the ability to post caps here. If I ran a voyeur site, I would only permit caps from the free cams and the previews and I would never maintain an archive. Instead I would have a 72 hour timeline and that's it. Yes, this would create a black market for videos, but the chances of them being readily available to the public at large would be seriously curtailed. I can promise you that for a majority of tenants, it's that archive that causes them to worry the most.l and thus limits what they will do on cam. Plus, it also stops potentially great talent from ever appearing in the first place. I'm telling that the archive comes with consequences. 

Sounds a lot like the RLC policies 😑

[Robwin]

15 hours ago, Amy3 said:

 I'm telling that the archive comes with consequences. 

Thats bollocks Amy and you know it. If anyone is that naive, thick or just plain stupid to believe that they deserve all they get.

Its not the archive that brings consequences its appearing fucking on the internet in the first place that brings consequences. Do you honestly think all the photos and videos people take on CC stay on CC? No of course they don't they are spread all over the internet and anyone who thinks different is deluding themselves.

Any tennant that thinks different has their head in the sand and much of it will come back hard in the future and bite them on the ass and they only have themselves to blame NOT the archives lol.

[ipiratemedia]

22 minutes ago, Robwin said:

themselves to blame NOT the archives

Good point!

[WatcherCC]

Why don't we try to get back on track to the important topic of how sweet Nicole's nipple looks gently pressing into her slender arm 😋 

[happyone]

25 minutes ago, WatcherCC said:

Why don't we try to get back on track to the important topic of how sweet Nicole's nipple looks gently pressing into her slender arm 😋 

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She is a beauty and Karl, I think, a lucky man 

[Amy3]

1 hour ago, happyone said:

Sounds a lot like the RLC policies 😑

From the perspective of the talent and their privacy, RLC > VHTV. It's just a fact. 

[Guest]

16 hours ago, Amy3 said:

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen! The proof I've been looking for. I agree, what we see here is in fact a vanilla version of these people's actual lives. Oh sure, it's always possible for people to record content and plaster it on the internet, but is this really that common among voyeur content? Compared to porn, hardly! Plus, it then becomes the job of the site to squash and leaked footage. I've said this for a long time. The subscriber would be far better served with much better and diverse content without the existence of the archives and dare I say it, the ability to post caps here. If I ran a voyeur site, I would only permit caps from the free cams and the previews and I would never maintain an archive. Instead I would have a 72 hour timeline and that's it. Yes, this would create a black market for videos, but the chances of them being readily available to the public at large would be seriously curtailed. I can promise you that for a majority of tenants, it's that archive that causes them to worry the most.l and thus limits what they will do on cam. Plus, it also stops potentially great talent from ever appearing in the first place. I'm telling that the archive comes with consequences. 

I can't believe that having the archives will hinder what people are willing to do on any site, as soon as you switch on any cam you are already at the mercy of the internet and it doesn't matter if it is the parent company or not that holds the footage because anyone determined enough will find the footage/caps they are after.

13 hours ago, Amy3 said:

Yes, and that's my point. We are missing some great things I think because people aren't willing to forever have their sex life recorded on someone else's website. 

I think VHTV should compromise and let any past tenant delete their recording if they chose to. This would help ease that concern. If the tenant doesn't care, then it can stay. 

As for being able to have video's deleted from the archives well this is a problem that for those who have been paying subs either before or because a couple/individual has joined, well imo if the couple/individual are happy to take money for providing content then if they wish the videos to be removed then they should return said money. Because if you don't want it to stay in the archives then don't do it.

[WatcherCC]

The archives belong to VHTV and is part of their digital property. They didn't steal it - they paid for it and now they own it and can do with it as they please including giving it all away for free (providing their contract with the tenants doesn't prohibit this). No business in the world would or should give up their rightful property unless they have a very good reason for doing so.

As to the point that we might be missing out because the archives exist - this point is mute, they do exist!

This is the VHTV product: Live + Archive + TImeline.

Want to see how the world looks Live + No archive + Paid timeline? Checkout RLC

Want to see other configurations? Spygasm, Camerads, Voyeur Villa and even Chaturbate.

There are even some illegal sites out there where no one knows about the cameras...

My point is that we are in a VHTV product topic and somehow ended up pontificating what it would look like if it was something else. It's not something else. We can't make it something else even if we wanted. Most of us are happy as it is anyway - and if we're not we have other options. 

So what's the point of this long tedious discussion? To what end? To convince us that we might be missing out on something? And then what?

Seriously - what's the point? What's the endgame?

[Amy3]

I'm just explaining the consequences of it's existence in a calm and rationale manner. Much of the comments in response are off the mark. I'll spare you my defense of them. If you read what I actually said, you'd understand my point of view. I don't intend to change VHTV in regards to the archives. I'm simply explaining this from the perspective of potential tenants. ❤️

[WatcherCC]

14 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

I'm just explaining the consequences of it's existence in a calm and rationale manner. Much of the comments in response are off the mark. I'll spare you my defense of them. If you read what I actually said, you'd understand my point of view. I don't intend to change VHTV in regards to the archives. I'm simply explaining this from the perspective of potential tenants. ❤️

I think people understand the consequences of it's existence but like the VHTV product the way it is. Are you trying to convince them to change their mind?