Thestarider Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 An emotional matured man responds with factual evidence against just trivial Bull Shit speculation. A must watch video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Incredible 😞 More Americans died of covid-19 than in the Vietnam War More Americans died from the coronavirus than in the Vietnam War, according to data compiled by the leading Johns Hopkins University. A total of 58,365 people died in Covid-19 in the country, the most affected on the planet. A total of 58,220 American soldiers lost their lives during the Vietnam War (1955-1975), according to the official report published at the National Archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 6 hours ago, moos54 said: Incredible 😞 More Americans died of covid-19 than in the Vietnam War More Americans died from the coronavirus than in the Vietnam War, according to data compiled by the leading Johns Hopkins University. A total of 58,365 people died in Covid-19 in the country, the most affected on the planet. A total of 58,220 American soldiers lost their lives during the Vietnam War (1955-1975), according to the official report published at the National Archives. These were the final stats for yesterday's (4/28) reporting period. And, today the US will have more than 60,000 dead. So sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG 150 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Everything on that chart ASSUMES...correct reporting is being done. Who can prove anything either way. It's all in what source that you chose to believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 16 hours ago, moos54 said: Incredible 😞 More Americans died of covid-19 than in the Vietnam War More Americans died from the coronavirus than in the Vietnam War, according to data compiled by the leading Johns Hopkins University. A total of 58,365 people died in Covid-19 in the country, the most affected on the planet. A total of 58,220 American soldiers lost their lives during the Vietnam War (1955-1975), according to the official report published at the National Archives. And this is a great indication of trying to invoke fear from the reporting agencies( I do not know what media source you reference)--but how about a different angle--one that would not be reported cause it is not inflammatory enough and does not put forth the left agenda: CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years --more than from Covid 19 to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, happyone said: And this is a great indication of trying to invoke fear from the reporting agencies( I do not know what media source you reference)--but how about a different angle--one that would not be reported cause it is not inflammatory enough and does not put forth the left agenda: CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years --more than from Covid 19 to date. it is called simply making an observation of events and allows you to put the effects of the covid in a certain context This disease has just claimed more victims in 1 or 2 months than a war that lasted 20 years this allows things to be put into perspective and one thing is certain without the measures which have been taken, this number would have been worse than that of a simple flu, it would be time to stop veiling the face According to the calculation models in France, containment measures would have saved at least 60,000 people, so if we adapt this in the United States, I think you can multiply by 4 or 5 this number this is not intended to instill fear, especially since it is a simple interpretation of the figures made in the French media, for example here, they compared the number of deaths of the covid exceeding that of the big heat wave that we had lived in 2003 and that had also done a lot of harm for the elderly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, moos54 said: it is called simply making an observation of events and allows you to put the effects of the covid in a certain context This disease has just claimed more victims in 1 or 2 months than a war that lasted 20 years this allows things to be put into perspective and one thing is certain without the measures which have been taken, this number would have been worse than that of a simple flu, it would be time to stop veiling the face According to the calculation models in France, containment measures would have saved at least 60,000 people, so if we adapt this in the United States, I think you can multiply by 4 or 5 this number this is not intended to instill fear, especially since it is a simple interpretation of the figures made in the French media, for example here, they compared the number of deaths of the covid exceeding that of the big heat wave that we had lived in 2003 and that had also done a lot of harm for the elderly Then why not report the comparison of the flu in one year vs Covid19 in 4 months??? The numbers in that certain context reflecting deaths in Vietnam vs Covid19 are a lot more alarming than the other way. That is exactly what the media wants to demonstrate and not just an observation. Again, calculations can be made all day long, but if the numbers are misconstrued or not accurate, then neither are the results of those calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, moos54 said: it is called simply making an observation of events and allows you to put the effects of the covid in a certain context This disease has just claimed more victims in 1 or 2 months than a war that lasted 20 years this allows things to be put into perspective and one thing is certain without the measures which have been taken, this number would have been worse than that of a simple flu, it would be time to stop veiling the face According to the calculation models in France, containment measures would have saved at least 60,000 people, so if we adapt this in the United States, I think you can multiply by 4 or 5 this number this is not intended to instill fear, especially since it is a simple interpretation of the figures made in the French media, for example here, they compared the number of deaths of the covid exceeding that of the big heat wave that we had lived in 2003 and that had also done a lot of harm for the elderly Yeah, a disease that was inflicted on the world and the U.S. by China with the help of the incompetence of the World Health Organization. "containment measures would have saved at least 60,000 people, so if we adapt this in the United States, I think you can multiply by 4 or 5 this number?" How could the U.S. have saved 4 or 5 times 60,000 when so far we have lost only a little over 60,000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, happyone said: Then why not report the comparison of the flu in one year vs Covid19 in 4 months??? The numbers in that certain context reflecting deaths in Vietnam vs Covid19 are a lot more alarming than the other way. That is exactly what the media wants to demonstrate and not just an observation. Again, calculations can be made all day long, but if the numbers are misconstrued or not accurate, then neither are the results of those calculations. I don't work in the media so I can't tell you why In this kind of work, they often like to make comparisons on significant events, so it is easier to do it with a trying war like that of Vietnam rather than to do it with the figures of the flu which returns each year. Especially that in the end, it was proven that the covid was much more deadly than the simple flu By the way, doctors are discovering new effects related to covid every day because we don't really know what it does yet, but apparently it can do a lot of harm in any healthy person or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, moos54 said: I don't work in the media so I can't tell you why In this kind of work, they often like to make comparisons on significant events, so it is easier to do it with a trying war like that of Vietnam rather than to do it with the figures of the flu which returns each year. Especially that in the end, it was proven that the covid was much more deadly than the simple flu By the way, doctors are discovering new effects related to covid every day because we don't really know what it does yet, but apparently it can do a lot of harm in any healthy person or not I think it is not because it is easier, because it is just as easy to use the simple flu as a comparison--a more recent and comparative event. And as for proving that Covid19 is much more deadly--that has not yet been proven, as the testing has not yet been completed and may not be totally accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: Yeah, a disease that was inflicted on the world and the U.S. by China with the help of the incompetence of the World Health Organization. "containment measures would have saved at least 60,000 people, so if we adapt this in the United States, I think you can multiply by 4 or 5 this number?" How could the U.S. have saved 4 or 5 times 60,000 when so far we have lost only a little over 60,000? yes you are right, this disease comes from an international plot , I seem to be reading Trump's words are you sure you didn't test the various health solutions said by your president too? Do you really want me to teach you how math works? We are 67 million in France against 328 in the United States, I just compare with the difference in population But it's true that if we take the mortality figures we should rather be on a multiplication between 3 or 4, which always makes a lot of deaths 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, moos54 said: yes you are right, this disease comes from an international plot , I seem to be reading Trump's words are you sure you didn't test the various health solutions said by your president too? Do you really want me to teach you how math works? We are 67 million in France against 328 in the United States, I just compare with the difference in population But it's true that if we take the mortality figures we should rather be on a multiplication between 3 or 4, which always makes a lot of deaths Moos--the mortality figures are not correct----not enough data to be accurate.. Everyone else has made that relatively clear in this thread as well as those outside who have compiled and referenced the data that say it is incomplete-so the final determination has not yet been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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