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4 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

Who Is Guilty of Inciting Riots?

In the wake of the storming of the Capitol, many are blaming President Trump for the violence. Of course, he never instructed anyone to engage in violence. Nevertheless, his critics argue that he stoked people's passions, which he did, and can therefore be held accountable. 

If this is the standard—inflammatory rhetoric—then Trump's critics are at best ethically compromised. Consider the following remarks, made by the kind of people who are now hammering the president.

  • "I need you to get out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Presidential candidate Barack Obama, 2008

  • "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what this new Democratic Party is about." Former Attorney General Eric Holder, 2018

  • "Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Rep. Maxine Waters, 2018

  • "Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople." Sen. Cory Booker, 2020

  • "People will do what they do." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi commenting on violent protesters, 2020

  • "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives, and unfortunately there is plenty to go around." Rep. Ayanna Pressley, 2020

  • "They're [left-wing protesters] not gonna stop before Election Day in November and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. And that should be—everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not gonna let up and they should not. And we should not." Sen. Kamala Harris, 2020

  • "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." CNN host Chris Cuomo, 2020

  • "When you see a nation, an entire nation, simultaneously grappling with an extraordinary crisis seeded in 400 years of American racism, I'm sorry, that is not the same question as the understandably aggrieved store owner or the devout religious person who wants to go back to services." New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while he restricted church services, 2020

  • "I can't imagine what it would look like if we said to people, 'Actually, you have to stay in. You have to ignore systemic racism—I'm sorry, just ignore it. Stay in.'" New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while restricting church services, 2020

  • "As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of black people in the United States." Twelve-hundred health and medical colleagues justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms, 2020

  • "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence." Nikole Hannah-Jones, New York Times journalist, 2020

  • "We don't have to finger-wag at protesters about property. That can be rebuilt." David Remnick, New Yorker journalist

  • "The notion that nonviolence is tactically more effective...has not only been proven wrong over the past week by sheer numbers; it cannot be historically supported." R.H. Lossin, Ph.D., The Nation magazine, 2020

  • "A siege [of the White House] only works if it is sustained. We witnessed this—the multiplying power of a strategic occupation—nine years ago. You dig in, hold your ground, and the tension accumulates, amplifies, goes global." Adbusters, the group that started Occupy Wall Street, 2020Many more examples could be given. In fairness, these comments, while incendiary, are not direct calls for violence. But it is also true that nothing Trump said was a direct call for violence either. 

    Left-wing commentators and activists (pretty much the same these days) have no moral authority to lecture the rest of us about violence committed by right-wing protesters. They nurtured a climate of violence over the past year by giving Antifa and Black Lives Matter their blessings. 

    If they were principled, they would do as the Catholic League does and condemn violent protesters regardless of their cause. But they are not.

violence is wrong. but violence by the left is in response to your pals on the right. you refuse to see reality & continue to make an idiot of yourself. 

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4 hours ago, Thestarider said:

SAYS YOU WHO BLAMES EVERYTHING ON A ONE TERM PRESIDENT ? These problems have been brewing for years and long before this last president. A civil war is brewing, and there is no way this current administration will do anything to stop it, matter of fact they are making much worse in just a few weeks.

There will be no civil war.  Any future attempts by MAGA of insurrection will be quelled quickly and with no mercy.

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4 hours ago, Thestarider said:

Wow now you see how real trolls operate on the internet ? I am not embarrassing myself. I am not brainwashed.  I see with both eyes wide open. I do not have to make my political points with insults like you and your troll brothers do. So I would ask you who is really inciting the violence ? The left or the right ?

You ARE brainwashed and you continually embarrass yourself with fictitious, baseless, crazy-ass comments and allegations.  Tape record yourself and then listen back to how fucking stupid what you say sounds and is.  

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4 hours ago, Thestarider said:

Who Is Guilty of Inciting Riots?

In the wake of the storming of the Capitol, many are blaming President Trump for the violence. Of course, he never instructed anyone to engage in violence. Nevertheless, his critics argue that he stoked people's passions, which he did, and can therefore be held accountable. 

If this is the standard—inflammatory rhetoric—then Trump's critics are at best ethically compromised. Consider the following remarks, made by the kind of people who are now hammering the president.

  • "I need you to get out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Presidential candidate Barack Obama, 2008

  • "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what this new Democratic Party is about." Former Attorney General Eric Holder, 2018

  • "Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that [Trump] Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." Rep. Maxine Waters, 2018

  • "Please, get up in the face of some congresspeople." Sen. Cory Booker, 2020

  • "People will do what they do." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi commenting on violent protesters, 2020

  • "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives, and unfortunately there is plenty to go around." Rep. Ayanna Pressley, 2020

  • "They're [left-wing protesters] not gonna stop before Election Day in November and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. And that should be—everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not gonna let up and they should not. And we should not." Sen. Kamala Harris, 2020

  • "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." CNN host Chris Cuomo, 2020

  • "When you see a nation, an entire nation, simultaneously grappling with an extraordinary crisis seeded in 400 years of American racism, I'm sorry, that is not the same question as the understandably aggrieved store owner or the devout religious person who wants to go back to services." New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while he restricted church services, 2020

  • "I can't imagine what it would look like if we said to people, 'Actually, you have to stay in. You have to ignore systemic racism—I'm sorry, just ignore it. Stay in.'" New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms while restricting church services, 2020

  • "As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of black people in the United States." Twelve-hundred health and medical colleagues justifying illegal street protests that violated social distancing norms, 2020

  • "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence." Nikole Hannah-Jones, New York Times journalist, 2020

  • "We don't have to finger-wag at protesters about property. That can be rebuilt." David Remnick, New Yorker journalist

  • "The notion that nonviolence is tactically more effective...has not only been proven wrong over the past week by sheer numbers; it cannot be historically supported." R.H. Lossin, Ph.D., The Nation magazine, 2020

  • "A siege [of the White House] only works if it is sustained. We witnessed this—the multiplying power of a strategic occupation—nine years ago. You dig in, hold your ground, and the tension accumulates, amplifies, goes global." Adbusters, the group that started Occupy Wall Street, 2020Many more examples could be given. In fairness, these comments, while incendiary, are not direct calls for violence. But it is also true that nothing Trump said was a direct call for violence either. 

    Left-wing commentators and activists (pretty much the same these days) have no moral authority to lecture the rest of us about violence committed by right-wing protesters. They nurtured a climate of violence over the past year by giving Antifa and Black Lives Matter their blessings. 

    If they were principled, they would do as the Catholic League does and condemn violent protesters regardless of their cause. But they are not.

What's the source of this article?  Are you afraid to tell us?  I think so.  Or did you put these misquotes and drivel together yourself?

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Here is your Democratic Leaders in Portland, Oregon who say they are doing their best !!! And you wonder why a civil war is coming.

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Here’s a little tour of Portland Oregon.
No, these aren’t all from one small area. These are photos of what used to be bustling shopping districts, school areas, residential neighborhoods, city parks, etc.
This is a widespread problem now common in virtually all of Portland.
This used to be one of the friendliest and most beautiful cities in the country.
So what has happened?
Bad leadership and bad policy making.
That’s all. 
There hasn’t been industry losses or any other substantial material changes to the area. It’s simply been one bad policy stacked on top of another one for too long.
And this is what you get.
The City has only had one Republican Mayor since 1952 and Oregon has only had one Republican Governor since 1975.
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