Ozi Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well, I am proud to be living here in Texas. The jury did not find that punk Routh insane, but instead found him guilty of capital murder for killing both Chris Kyle, and Chad Littlefield. But I did not realize until recently that Routh had shot them both in the back. Littlefield's father said in court that Routh was an American disgrace. I hope they gut that fucker good in prison. Shot them in the back, how else would he do it. He was a Marine, but served in a non-combat role whilst deployed in Iraq. Sick to death of people trying to use drugs or alcohol as an excuse or justification for committing a crime and the fucking system that allows people to literally get away with murder because of technicalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodworker Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I know exactly what you mean. Look at that piece of shit that walked into that movie theater in Aurora Colorado, and killed indiscriminately, including kids. And then look at how many years have gone by, and the cocksucker still hasn't gone to trial. I think his defense attorney is hoping that all of the surviving victims, or their families, will die first from old age, before he goes through with his little dog and pony show. Makes me sick! I don't know how those victim's families can endure this kind of torment. I feel so sorry for them. And that fucking clown with his orange spiked hair! Pathetic, weak, glutton for attention, punk! I've got nothing but contempt for our so called judicial system. Just a sorry ass excuse for everyone to get paid or make a living upon the grief and anxiety of the victim's surviving families. If someone is found guilty, and if they give him a twenty year sentence, it doesn't mean shit! It's merely stated that way to pacify the ignorant public, as you then come to find out that he's let out after only serving eight years. It's a black hearted joke! Nothing more than that. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Hurt one of my own, and I'll show you what justice looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodworker Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I heard that the military had stripped Routh of the honor of calling himself a Marine. In my mind, He was never a true Marine. A person like that wouldn't know what honor is. To turn on your own like that. To betray the trust of a fellow soldier, or Marine, is truly despicable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMY SNIPER Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Hurt one of my own, and I'll show you what justice looks like. You hurt one of mine...I am the Judge,The Jury,and the Punisher. Say GoodBye Mully F**cker. >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozi Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 A really sad outcome, two dead trying to help a mate. BUT, worth doing some background reading, which I'm doing. After discharge from the Marines, Routh spent time in mental institutions, diagnosed as schizophrenic. It appears Routh's mother approached Kyle and asked him to help her son, who was also suffering from PTSD. From all accounts she was desperate to find some support for her son. From what I've read so far, using a number of sources, this is yet another total failure of the system, another let down of Vets by DVA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodworker Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yes, However, his attorney was not able to convince the jury that his bouts with schizophrenia were either sincere, or severe enough in his past actions to sway the jury. From what little I know of the case, it seems that there were deliberate attempts by Routh and his attorney to fake certain conditions, and it was found out about. Just something that some radio host had mentioned a short while back. Other than that, I really don't know much about it, except Routh, up till that day hadn't made a practice to go around and shoot certain people in the back before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozi Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yep, hear what you are saying. Typical legal wrangle, with experts contradicting each other. However, what hasn't been disputed is that Routh was in a VA hospital for treatment and was released with anti-psychotic medicine to treat his symptoms. If I had been on the jury, I would have ignored both experts, because I don't agree with drugs, alcohol or a mental condition being an adequate defence. I'm not disagreeing with the verdict. With his treatment in a VA hospital, I guess I'm also putting a fair bit of faith in his mother, who obviously identified he had some issues and wasn't getting adequate support. It appears she went to Kyle because she wasn't receiving adequate support and knew he helped vets with PTSD. Kyle had heaps of experience with helping vets with issues. While in the car driving to the range where they were murdered, Kyle sent a text message to Littlefield; “This dude is straight-up nuts.” Littlefield's response was; “He’s right behind me. Watch my six.” That gives some indication of not only Routh's state of mind, but Kyle's commitment to supporting his mates. So what I'm saying is, based on how many other Vets have been let down, I believe that if DVA were resourced adequately to do their job, this whole sorry incident may have been avoided. Support for Vets is a cost of war and should be taken into consideration, but it isn't. You buy a computer these days, the cost of recycling it is built into the cost. Surely we can do the same for our Vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodworker Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I know. Your right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foamy T. Squirrel Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 . . . Support for Vets is a cost of war and should be taken into consideration, but it isn't. That's because they don't comprise a big enough voter block. The primary job of the Federal Government according to the Constitution was to provide for the common defense & enforce the bill of rights; but it's more effective for elected leaders to keep their jobs by funneling money to the now huge audience of welfare recipients instead of veterans who already earned their benefits. The Veterans have been kicked to the back of the bus, and are now the victims of a huge, suicidal, economically unsustainable socialist entitlement system that is driving the nation off a cliff with mathematical certitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linked Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 most Vets take about 2 1/2 years after a claim to even start receiving their benefits. The steps we have to go through to receive them is horrendous. You have to have so much paperwork to start your claim, then you have to have a ton of supporting documents, then you have to wait for some bureaucrat piece of shit to approve your claim. A lot of the times you need more supporting documents, that requires you to start the process over with an appeal of there decision. Trust me this an issue that I am years deep in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMY SNIPER Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 most Vets take about 2 1/2 years after a claim to even start receiving their benefits. The steps we have to go through to receive them is horrendous. You have to have so much paperwork to start your claim, then you have to have a ton of supporting documents, then you have to wait for some bureaucrat piece of shit to approve your claim. A lot of the times you need more supporting documents, that requires you to start the process over with an appeal of there decision. Trust me this an issue that I am years deep in. Yea Linked i saw on the news just last week where a Vet had filed a claim over 10 years ago.. still nothing. it showed his wife telling the reporter that she got in contact with VA people to tell them never mind, her husband had passed away and still nothing from them, not even a "I'm Sorry". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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