Sofie Cox

That's all I can write - you don't know how Russian girls in Europe are treated. What comments do you hear when you speak Russian. We are treated like toys, like sexual objects. That is funny to you, gentlemen, 
No, I'm not involved with RLC or VH. My acquaintance with Nina and Kira is accidental, 
Everyone has the right to be judged, everyone has the right to their own opinion, I do not attack anyone, I do not impose my own opinion on anyone, This is a forum, you can write what you think. Nina and Kira are what you want to see, So much closed topic, enjoy watching..,

1 minute ago, Amy3 said:

Persecution? You said it yourself. To understand them one needs to “connect facts and social media connections”. If you’re not actually friends with them on speaking terms and you are scouring other places for information about them, that’s stalking isn’t it? 

In my posts there is no information about their private life. Everything that I wrote comes from N&K. It results from their conversations and posts. I would never disclose any private information, even on PM. these are just my thoughts, right or wrong, I do not intend to persecute anyone and I consider the topic closed,

6 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

Sounds like stalking to me.

Persecution. Well no, I'm not going to interfere in their lives, I know a lot, but without bad intentions. But maybe I really wrote too much, I just wanted to understand them, I already wrote, I spoke unnecessarily., No, I'm not going to haunt anyone. And their social media is publicly available, they do not protect them specifically, They are there to show what they want ...

17 minutes ago, Robwin said:

Yes many on here will disagree with that as they are only interested in their own selfish needs in watching naked men and women perform sex acts upon each other for money. May i add myself included in that list so i am not excusing myself at all. In all truth we are all helping to ruin these girls lives and all others on these sex channels.

Yeah, it's a drama, Well, many people on CB do it just to survive (Colombia). N&K are looking for easy money forgetting about their dignity.  I am a woman and it hurts me a lot that men see us as just a sexual object. And N&K is how they depict a woman - as a person sitting with legs spread out. You give me a token, I'll show you more. And that's what a person does who is said to be so concerned about social issues, family security. Nothing is sacred to them, and that is what is unpleasant, These deceptions, lies, impersonating someone else.

Yes, Kira has a job, but she's already lost one work  few month ago. . Why? I can only guess. Kira is a person involved in a toxic relationship. She desperately tries to maintain a normal life, and Nina ruthlessly exploits her feelings and drags her into ever-increasing swamps. As long as Kira survives in three jobs, 
I know, it's sad words, maybe even too harsh. But that's how it looks. Nina needs Kira to fulfill her plans, without Kira there is no Nina.
And yet I like them, and I would like them to wake up from this nightmarish dream.

In fact, in order to understand something, you have to connect facts, social media entries. Filter their conversations (a lot of falsehood). There is a lot of information everywhere, but only few are true. Entries and photos disappear, the real ones have been removed. I have been observing them since 2015, many things have changed, for the worse. But this is not the place for such considerations. And I don't see any point in writing praiseworthy posts. Because it's a praise for their performance, not theirs. I have to admit one thing, they are really masters of psychology, they can hit the weak points of a human being, especially older men.... Because I think there are some of them in the N&K fan group. 
Oh, I don't watch VH, I don't see the point of paying for it, the cameras in the kitchen don't show much, so I'll rather end my adventure. Maybe it's good... 
 

14 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

ou have to understand, this is VHTV. Look around the place. You won’t see people just living their real like on cam. You will see constant attempts to perform  sexually for the cams. The site owners themselves are, as we speak, paying bonus money to tenants to perform directly in front of the free cams in order to win new subscribers. Sex and VHTV go hand in hand. A tenant once told me that they only time they made money was when they had sex on cam. Sorry, but this is a sex site, not a real voyeur site. Not when the tenants are in a competition for views, which translates to money. They have to earn those views. Maybe these girls can drag enough RLC viewers to fund their life, but think about this. Based on the highest paying subscription rate, it would take 1000 viewers watching them for an hour straight for them to earn about. $27. To make money here the tenants have to earn it and sitting around cooking, reading novels, and sharing intimate kisses and back rubs isn’t going to make the cut. 

However, broken record Amy3, I have no doubt that VHTV is NEVER going to let these girls fail and I’m certain that they will get the money one way or the other, even if it comes out of VHTV’s own pocket. Failure is not an option here. Sticking it to RLC is worth a heavy coin to VHTV. Indeed, these girls are smart!

I get it, that's what I mean. N&K are perfectly capable of managing their lives, but it is a pity that this is how they do it. They can do better, they are not stupid, they do it consciously, but all their creative energy goes into thinking about how to make money in porn business. They do not consider returning to normal life, because that would mean more work, more effort and less prosperity. This is the most important thing for them, not family, friends, respect and material status. Money, one by one, crosses barriers - it goes into the swamp deeper and deeper. 
I have already written - they don't have to, but they want to! Even their mutual feelings are not important - they have sold it too and they are an excellent business couple. 

9 minutes ago, golfer06 said:

you're fine. no reason to stop posting.

It doesn't make any sense. Nobody really cares about N&K here, everyone is waiting for some action to make their eyes happy. And this aggression.... What for? For what reason? Is it true that my words are true? We can have a different view, we can see it differently, but aggression is a manifestation of powerlessness..... It's not my business anymore. 

Well, I didn't mean to offend or upset anyone. It seemed to me that my opinion was worth considering and analyzing. But I guess I didn't do it right. I'm sorry, I won't spoil the atmosphere of the happy return of N&K. Nice illusions. Remember, N&K are real, not toys for cheerful masturbation, 

15 minutes ago, Roksis said:

which at first was trying to get into panties in NIna, and then to Kira, the slut rent, and even the poetry of his PR. ridiculously.) read all this. I also understand Russian a little bit and watch the girls everywhere. and Oh yeah, I'm a girl too, it's amazing how much envy can do.) Such awareness, as if you live with them right now. if you don't like something, you can get the fuck out of here. you shouldn't be here to throw mud and try to humiliate girls. this is no place for a dump like this. and Hey girls! super that we can all see you and the cats! you are unique!

And why such aggression, everyone has the right to their own opinion, Time will show who was right... I hope I'm wrong, I really want it.

5 minutes ago, Roksis said:

so much envy and anger 
Oh, maybe you are doe eyes?

Jealous? What is it? Anger? For what? 
I am not DE. Take it easy, don't get upset.
No, no anger or jealousy. You have to be able to find a friend although sometimes this friend says sad things, but honest and looks straight into the eyes. Does it hurt?

1 minute ago, refazer said:

Everyone can give their opinion. There are some who love this couple of others But they are talking about them (39 pages in 24 hours)

I hate hypocrisy and lies. In fact, all the people sitting in front of CB cameras expect only one thing - a pornographic program or at least a naked breast. But no, they love Nina's music, they love Nina's talents. That's why they're sitting on CB. 

2 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

I guess we’re not supposed to look at their sexual abilities, we are supposed to get off on figuring out the depth of their soul. 

Don’t know about you guys, but I got diverted to these sites from a porn surfing redirect, not a sewing page.

It's true, it's porn sites not psychological counseling, it's true, my thoughts shouldn't be here, 

And making money on CB is not easy, Really, it takes many hours and a lot of effort to get big money, Someone supposedly got 120 000 tokens at one time..... Legend?

5 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

I would but their show is so lame that they don’t even react appropriately when tipped. I saw people trying to engage them and all they did was laugh at the them like they were idiots and when someone tipped them all they did was say “wow, Claro, thank you”. I don’t think they actually talk to their johns. 

My guess is they will show up here any day now. Oh and all the love can explode. 

It's true, their program is bad, they clearly underestimate the viewers. 
Nina's words - with 1 token you can wash your feet.... 
They are there for a few faithful fans, they give money... A few people. The rest doesn't count. That's their idea for the show. And it works because they earn a little bit.

4 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

I love reading how amazing they are. How intelligent and sophisticated they are, so educated and fulfilled and yet, they make awful camshows for people with tokens, which they very obviously hate doing and then they live on a sex cam site. I know they are doing it for the experience of it all. 👌

A paradox, isn't it? 

Do you think that two mature women, educated and wise, pretending to be 20 years old from Estonia and eating MC with Russian subtitles on their bags, jumping on their couches to the rhythm of incoming tokens is really worthy of respect. ?

I'm just asking because they think VH is a natural way...

And that's why I'm afraid for them... Just like a friend...

5 minutes ago, golfer06 said:

f course i would rather have my pld job with no sex & looked my mother straight in the eye.

That's right!  
It's not just about VH, it's not just about VH. Previously, there were a lot of entries about their activity on CB. 
If VH pays for the activity, they will probably adjust, 

8 minutes ago, golfer06 said:

you are indicating that since they need $ their job is to kiss & have sex even if they don't want to. i worked in a factory for 30 years & i can say that kissing nina or kira would have been preferable.

But you could have looked your mother straight in the eye, 

we don't understand, RLC could have been controversial, but N&K kept a certain level, tried to show the show under the title of "real life". Sometimes boring, sometimes cheerful, sometimes sad. Nakedness, sex were inscribed in a story there. They weren't subjects. But the money broke these rules, already much earlier than the RLC was over. Mostly Nina, unfortunately

I love my job, too.

Just now, golfer06 said:

most of us work for years at jobs that we don't like.

What does that have to do with anything? 

6 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said:

You think the money had bad influence on them?

Money is only a tool, it's more complicated. Money is only a tool to fight against complexes, with fears. You don't know much about it, you don't know much about it... 

12 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said:

Maybe you are not the target audience of VHTV. You like RLC better?

VH, CB, RLC - it doesn't matter. Because that's not what it's all about. You are playing with someone , they will pay for it with their lives. Sure, nobody is forcing them to do it, but are you sure? You quit your token and expect them to react. They have to kiss each other whether they want to or not.... etc., etc.

7 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said:

Maybe you are not the target audience of VHTV. You like RLC better?

That's not what this is about. I observe them rather from sympathy, they had many friends and a lot of happy moments on RLC. And then something bad happened. They lost their friends, the joy of life, depressions started, quarrels started.... Because the money won, with RLC there wasn't enough of it, you had to look somewhere else. And they paid for it

20 minutes ago, Robbo56 said:

 But I disagree that the viewers have made them what they are - sure we are the paying public who make this possible - but we do not force any particular person to perform in front of the camera, it is they who still have the free will to choose their path.

26 minutes ago, golfer06 said:

thanks for the insight. but i think that you are a little too attached to them. most of the people here just want to be entertained & that can't happen if they aren't home. also the way that vh pays is per views in the apt! as you said they need $ and they won't get any from vh for not being home.

Sad is fun at someone else's expense. It's easy. I don't know, but somehow I don't think it's fun to show masturbation or fake orgasms, Is it really fun?