JenniferMom

I hear you and I thank you for your thoughtful reply. It was not easy writing that post because I do indeed admire @emnv and @omedo and the others. But in what I have quoted above from you post, I think you are making my point. The act of sharing with certain people and not everyone is in fact example of bias itself. It distorts the collective understanding of what we are seeing in these apartments. We all get uncomfortable with the crazy speculations made by a few here. I will say except for a tiny few these speculations although they might be misguided, they appear heartfelt. There are only a few here that are outright hostile and one of the worst offenders I understand has been recently removed. If the people who are critical and even hostile to the crazy speculators are in the group that is getting the real truth in the back room, that doesn't seem right at all. I get it that the criticism the translators receive is terrrible and based on the time it takes to be a good translator, one quickly feels this is a thankless job. I totally get that. But I will continue to believe that the solution to all of this is to share more and be nice to each other. I think everyone's heart is in the right place.

I disagree Moos. I think most of us believe our translators and love their input. I know I do. It pains me to say this, but I think our translators are somewhat biased either intentionally (I hope not) or simply because it takes a lot of time to listen and write and they don’t catch it all. We should ALL be grateful for the time this takes. But the reason I am skeptical is because for whatever reason it seems like we don’t get the full story. Like now, they have had some arguments and you can see there is a lot of tension in their relationship right now. It’s very visible, so visible that @Deepdave quickly reports about the big hug and maybe they are behind their spat. But have we heard of anything about their argument? What they are fighting about? We have no insight here. Yet the other day Martina is crying and sobbing and we quickly hear in minutes that her dad has prostate cancer. Again it pains me to say this but I wonder why we don’t hear translations that may not put them in the best of light. The best way to cut down the crazy speculations is to shed more light on what is happening. These two are a good couple but it feels like things are unraveling.

They are incredible. I am very impressed. And I think I read (from the olden days), that she is bi?

Martina in the early lead: 2 votes to zero for everyone else.

Who knows what they are thinking about when they bate? But let me be clear, when I bate, I think of Martina. But you guys probably know that. So who does everyone here think about when they bate? Let's share. BTW I am ok from time to time with them bating under the covers but if it happens all the time, then they are too shy for RLC. Period. Under the covers is best when it is part of their evolution and initiation into the RLC culture. We have seen this with some of the other girls, I can't name anyone off the top of my head, but they start under the covers and become less shy over time. That's kind of hot. Thanks Hornygirl ... first time I have seen your posts. You should meet @girlsfun2 .

I stand corrected Friese. Having a rough morning here LOL. But I don't watch the kitchen much, despite it still remains the venue for the kiss that started it all.

EDIT: SHIT ... I wrote this entire post thinking you said "it IS nice to have men in the villa". My bad. You I know I love you DD. It's not about the villa having men or women or the optimal mix of genders. It's about getting the right group of people together who are open with their sexuality and who like being together and have some sort of a vibe for each other. I think of the group of friends I hung out with in high school land post-high school. That is the group you want for RLC. We never discussed or even imagined doing what we did on cam ... that would probably be a show-stopper ... but we were not shy and we loved being with each other. We had some crazy nights. It seems to me we are seeing MORE openness and LESS shyness since Bogdan has left. So having Bogdan around didn't help. Of course you will blame this on Nelly (everything gets blamed on Nelly it seems to me). It takes years for groups like this to form and to bond build rapport and trust each other. I dare say it is not possible to do it by hiring people off the street and expecting the bonding to happen by magic. At first I wondered why we only see Russians and Ukranians for the most part; however, this makes sense if you are trying to accelerate the bonding and building rapport/trust process ... at least these girls come from a common culture.

Yes she does. Cooking in the B4 kitchen nude, normally no one is ever nude there.

Poor Radi, having to compete with two hetero couples fucking and a female lesbian hook up ... she plans her moves accordingly.

No I have not seen much of these. Honestly, when I try to go look, I get frustrated. Like some are on a site called hotstrokes or snopes or wesley snipes or something like that ... right? Well you go to the site every time you click on something about 3 or 4 more tabs pop up. It's nuts, so I give up. There are a couple of very generous (and sexy) guys on here who have shared with me a few morsels from their private collection ... but I don't think I've seen any of Eva or if I have I don't recall. And for the record, this is not a backhanded ploy to get links sent to me. I'm good, I really am good. I've noticed that as a voyeur, seeing things live is really MORE exciting than seeing the replay. I think replay is indispensable, as it helps us understand what happened while we were sleeping and such. But I rarely ever masturbate to replay like I have done watching Nelly and Martina live. Maybe I am sharing too much.

Just catching up on the discussion about Eva and Mat. I enjoy hearing from the veterans what the old days were like. It's great to understand a bit of the background of the cast members so I appreciate it very much. But let's get down to the business of being voyeurs! I think the sex between these two is really good. I try not to overuse the term "making love" but these two seem to be very much into each other right now. It's been fun and very hot to watch. Seeing Eva orgasm has been incredible. At first I wasn't that impressed with this Mat gentleman but he kind of growing on me. The veterans will tell me that Alberto and Martina have become more routine in their lovemaking over time so we shouldn't read too much into it. So does this mean that in the beginning we saw Alberto and Martina making love like I've seen this past week in B6? So I jumped back in with a sub as some of you may have noticed. My gut told me we are positioned for a break out moment with Martina. But I probably just jinxed that. But I have been surprised and pleased with Eva/Mat, Karol/herguy, Masha has been good, and something about Radi/hergf is inspiring. If RLC is listening, the message is clear (and has never changed): KEEP IT REAL. Even Fiora's massage of Radi ... which was just a "show massage" of the fake-lesbian genre ... came across as authentic. Fiora wanted to do something nice for Radi and it showed. RLC needs to keep people like Radi and Fiora around (IMHO) and not bring back the Loraine's who I don't think has the capacity to do something nice for someone, and that includes her old boyfriend Anthony. BTW Anthony is history, right?

Deep conversation right now in bathroom. Alberto very animated. Martina solemn.

I was reading what you wrote as a speculation that the night before last Martina was out all night with Nelly as a celebration of the 1 year anniversary of their trip to Valencia. No worries Yelt. As for my mention of caution, you may ignore that. One of my not so useful traits is I like to engage in debate so I become invested here in the back-and-forth we have regarding Martina's life. It's not very healthy, admittedly. I think we all agree with this. Although honestly I don't care too much what happens to Alberto. And I say this not in a negative way, it's simply that I am not invested in him at all and I really don't see what he is doing to improve his life, so it doesn't matter much to me how this turns out. The key question is WHAT is it that will happen to Martina that will end up finding her success? Do I want to see her get lots of amazing sex? Yes. Do I want to see her be fully bi and share her love with others that are close to her? Yes. Do I want to see her get her studies done and have an amazing career? Yes. Do I want to see her have a beautiful family and become a loving mom? Yes. I see all of this. I have no agenda on where this journey goes. I do not see Alberto in this future but I do not NOT see him either. To me, he is incidental. Until I see her irrationally love this guy ... like Gina irrationally loved Bruno ... I'm not sure how he fits in.

And it's not her tender knee (as it was explained to us) ... one of the few times I have seen her cry and be so sad.

Possibly. It does seem like he "feels her pain" but whatever the issue is, it was self-created, and all he can do is be there for her, but she made the bed she lays in.

I got COVID last year. If she had it, she would be in bed for 4-5 days I think. The cough could be a symptom. I don't think it's COVID. The physical symptoms all seem to align with being hung over.

No. There was a time I would be furiously playing with google translate on my phone ... but now I don't care that much anymore.

Alberto showing some empathy and support, but not a hell of a lot.

More crying, clearly crying, not a cold. Playing a message back for Alberto who just came home.

Does Masha drink a lot and do other things? I'm not sure. You could easily talk me into never drinking again if I had access to unlimited sex. Masha seems to have learned how to pace herself.

It was hard to tell if she was crying or suffering from a cold. She was coughing quite a bit. But her somber mood seems to indicate she is sad. Although hung-over and tired has the same physical appearance mostly.

The ring is not new. She has worn one ... on and off ... for quite some time now.

I think she might be crying now, while on the phone. Or she has a bad cold and sniffles.

They have to meet the terms of their RLC contract!

I don't think so. Although @Deepdave and I are not aligned on these two, I do agree with him that *most* of the time when Martina goes out, she is not fucking her brains out like the "puta" we know she can be. So I don't think she had an all-nighter with Nelly last night. My point is she goes out often, always without Alberto, and knowing her libido, her open sexual nature, how alcohol (and more perhaps) affects her, I think anyone who assumes she has not hooked up ever on these adventures, that person is fooling themselves. In fact we know of at least one hook up (the infamous parking lot adventure). I enjoy this back-and-forth between the "FWB/Martina-loves-sex" tribe and the "Martina/Alberto-life-long-couple" tribe that we have going here. Yes it may be unhealthy but I view this like a reality TV show ... what will ultimately happen? I would only caution you Yelt and others like @girlsfun2 that the wild speculations sometimes don't help our argument! 🙂 Although @girlsfun2 is so way out there, we may catch the other tribe sleeping one day as they always dismiss her.