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OMG, Again, I saw a couple of videos of Nataly. Is that seriously Natasha? If so, we have seriously underestimated Natasha! She did pornos that are much more than Julia has done. Three guys, girls, etc. That would explain why someone heard Julia call her Nataly. These people are all porn stars! So why does she act a little innocent? Just an act obviously. I'm assuming VV knows about her pornos? Again, nothing should surprise me about these people. I should watch their pornos instead of their soft core fake stuff. She could have just sucked Akira to death last night if she wanted to. I wonder if Akira knows about her?

Natres, who was in that pic with her finger in her pussy? That wasn't natasha was it? And I see Natasha is asleep already. Like I predicted. Julia and Gavin had sex a few times earlier this evening already, so no rejection there. Well, we will see what tomorrow will bring. With this site, you need to have on your shock absorbers and a crash helmet each day.

Miscvoyeur, you are probably right. They will probably get in other people and we don't know about Natasha. I am just being a bit negative I guess. I am not usually a doom and gloom person, but the Voro situation has thrown me. VV is constantly changing. RLC is just the opposite, nothing ever changes.

Spielo, I hope they will be here then, but the earlier info was that he had exams on December 25. Who knows when he would be ready to move in. And Christy is sick, didn't look too good. There may be several days in flux meanwhile. And even though I liked Natasha, I can't see her staying without Julia and Gavin. She isn't mature enough to make it on her own. Only person who can help her make the transition is Petra, but Petra isn't a goddam miracle worker!

Unsy, cassy, miscvoyeur, is this the end of Voro as we know it? I would love to see Phil and Dizi back but it's not happening. VV seems to be run by immature jerks who don't know what they are doing. Their twitters seem to prove that.

I think my guess is Natasha leaves with Julia and Gavin tomorrow. They do everything together. Today, when Julia went to work, Natasha went also. This will probably be the last night in Voro for a while. I agree with Cassy. They never named her as in the project so she will just disappear. My query is this: were Julia and Gavin (and Natasha) pushed out or did they choose to leave? By the way Julia looked to be sad I'd say they decided to end their time in VV. maybe the porn stuff was too much for them to handle. Of course they could have asked us first, I think many would have wanted them to stay for now.

I think many have not had problems here showing off their bodies and having sex in front of the cameras. Just that Natasha is reluctant because no chemistry with Akira and he is much older than her. Also, she needed to separate from the nest of Julia and Gavin. Well, they are leaving. But will she stay? otherwise, Akira will move to Tver for time being and they will close Voro for now. Or they may do something real stupid (as usual) and rush in two or three new people to Voro that will be losers and no chemistry will exist. This place is seriously f...ed up!

I swear there is almost a morose feeling to Voro now. They all hang in the shower room now smoking. So what's the over/under on Natasha and Akira having sex tonight. Let's hear the bets! I go with the under, no real sex.

Julia seems so sad to me. Gavin comforts her. Sex helps but no enough it seems. Love to know why they are leaving. Maybe they were meant to be temporary?

I was wondering when they celebrate Christmas. Thanks for the info, Cassy.

I think Julia looks a bit sad to be leaving VV. Well, apparently they are making up for it by having sex like rabbits again until they leave. So will Natasha and Akira have real sex or fake it again? They are in bed early tonight. If Natasha is staying, she should have sex with Akira to keep people watching Voro. Otherwise, people may stop watching Voro. You know, with Christy out, they could easily move Natasha and Akira in Tver until she comes back. At least then we will have one interesting apartment instead of two boring ones. And where is Sonia tonight? Maybe she went to her family for the holidays? I only see 4 people now in VV- Akira and Natash and Ivo and Petra.

I will miss Julia and Gavin. I thought they were a good couple and brought stability to Voro. I know the porn star thing gets in the way of how people view them. How would we have looked at them by now if we didn't know they were porn stars? Interesting thought. Natasha is a fun person but attached at the hip to Julia and Gavin so I don't know how long she will stay. And she is definitely immature. But she is hot and sexy and game for most anything. Where will Voro go now? Maybe they should just close Voro, go with one apartment. I am not looking forward to starting over again with some loser people they bring in there. And no Christy for now also? This place will be deader than a door nail now.

Yes, yadevol, many or most cameras. This place is falling apart. Lagtime is terrible, night lighting on many cameras don't work, they still didn't fix the door in Voro, people are leaving right and left. They have mismatches with people, sex is scripted and sometimes faked. Can you say the not ready for prime time players? Predecessor to Saturday night Live. These guys sometimes haven't got a clue! How about the three stooges? Or people attacking other people with glass, breaking glass, cheating behind people's backs, breaking up couples? And they have gone through how many people in like 3 1/2 months, 25 or 30? And yet, despite it all, we stay and hope for the best. I like parts of the experience even if the execution is sometimes terrible. And the VV people do act like juveniles in their tweets. Like she'll be back soon to her sexy self and butt. Or so and so are leaving, what do you think. Does it matter, they are leaving! Or wawawah, someone is back. Can you guess who? Were they referring to the fact that Akira and Charlie broke up? How sensitive! They look at this whole thing as a fucking sexual soap opera! And I guess we do at times also, so they have us hooked. Of course, although these people are ultimately actors and actresses, they are real human beings with real feelings that can get hurt. We will never forget that night with Christy, Messa and Nastya. I think VV needs to grow up a little. Treat this as a living, breathing experiment with people who like sex. But treat the people (and us) with some respect. It isn't some type of fucking game! But, what incentive does VV have if they have us hooked, get more people, make mucho dollars (rubles?).

OMG, Julia and Gavin leaving? Why? Does that mean Natasha is leaving also? And what will now happen to Voro? I tweeted VV about my opinion. I thought Julia and Gavin should stay and asked what will happen to Voro now. This place is falling apart! And Unsy, thanks for correcting me. I am quite happy if that is not the case that she is pregnant. A vaginal or yeast infection? And does that make you throw up? I don't know these answers. I just wanted to throw this "theory" out there so people could posit other ideas. Wonder what happened with that phone call in Tver where she was absolutely disconsolate after it?

Unsy, cassy doesn't subscribe so she didn't actually see it. I get where she is coming from though. This whole VV setup at times feels a bit abusive, but I think everything is consensual. Imagine if you just tuned into the famous bdsm scene between Christy and her bf in the middle. You would think he or she was being horribly abused! Anyway, Yaevodol, who may have started the whole rape thing, is an upstanding guy and he admitted he misinterpreted what he saw. So we should put this to rest. As to whether Akira was going to try to have sex with Natasha but respected her wishes and didn't, i believe you can look at it a couple of ways. I am a bit cynical about it and feel it was preplanned by them not to have sex but to look like they were. Others may give them more credit and believe that he started to try but saw she didn't want to and stopped. I respect both viewpoints. The reason for my interpretation was that for a while Akira was rubbing his cock over her pussy looking like he was fucking her and it looked like they were trying to convince us he was fucking her, when in reality her panties were on the whole time. It was dark in the room and I had to look carefully and ask others until I saw that her panties were on. So why do this elaborate simulation if they only wanted to have him rub her (dry hump), including him acting like he was raping her? Because it was all an act. When Sonia would do it to Phil they didn't act like they were fucking (although I was fooled once by them when I thought his cock was inside her, but they didn't put on an elaborate act, I just saw it late and not clearly and misinterpreted it). In any case, VV has us talking about it incessantly so they have a win/win.

What is with the lag time in VV today? Takes forever to get a camera view to connect. Often have to do it twice. BTW, I noticed from a pic that Petra took Christy probably home although Petra is back now. Since unsy heard Christy and Ivo's friend on a vide chat Ivo had with them after she left, they are obviously together. Here is my theory or speculation about Christy. It may be wrong, it is just a guess. When Ivo's friend fucked Christy the first time she met him over a month ago in Tver, he may have gotten her pregnant. A few weeks after their first fuck, Christy started getting sick and vomiting. She got real moody even by her standards and would cry seemingly for no reason often. She left to get an abortion a few days ago and now Ivo's friend is with her now in the aftermath as she needs rest now and comforting. Please, people, this is just a theory or speculation. Do not, I say do not take this as fact! She could have other gastrointestinal problems. Just that the way she was seemed like early pregnancy. My wife has had 2 pregnancies and I remember what she was like early on. The moodiness and crying seemingly without reason is also a symptom. The "health issue" VV refers to where she will be her usual sexy self soon would seem to fit with the aftermath of an abortion. The fact that she cried recently after a phone call he got at Tver sounded like she got the results of a pregnancy test. She almost looked scared after the phone call. Now, if she did not or does not get an abortion, she will probably leave VV. I don't think they want pregnancies there and she would want to be with her bf if possible. So, my conclusion is that she got pregnant and not sure if she has or will get an abortion. If she leaves VV now and is with her bf, it probably confirms the pregnancy.

Yavedol, I will say this, not every single thing here is scripted. Just the general parameters and shows. And as we see from Christy, they can't control mood swings or upsets. Even Julia and Gavin had a real fight. BTW, what is happening now? Julia and Gavin seem to have gone out, Natasha alone in the apartment on the phone. And Akira is back at Tver (probably where he belongs). To be honest, I see a couple of scenarios developing. Christy comes back with her bf, Ivo's friend (who I think might have gotten her pregnant, although she also fucked Phil and Messa) and they "live happily ever after" in either apartment. And either Natasha and Akira get along (debatable) or one of them will be gone with a new person in.

Natasha is a bit of a prima donna like Christy. I don't know that she and Akira make a good fit. It is like someone else said, VV likes to recycle, lol! Why get someone else when you can just use Akira again!

Yadevol, don't sweat the misunderstanding about the "rape attempt'. If I had looked away from the act for a minute and come back it might have looked that way. But, I kept watching and saw the phoniness of the "rape". It was almost a caricature of a rape scene. And I don't get why Natasha was upset just now. It seems ok now.

BTW, timewarp, I don't know why I like to escape but I do. It's almost more of an additional life than a replacement. I like my life but maybe I would like more. But, reality puts constraints on that. I would never ever cheat on my wife, but maybe I want to imagine I was still young and able to do other stuff. I have no intention or desire to do so, so I go instead into another world for a while. And I also like camcaps because I can converse with people. Maybe I like having other friends I could otherwise not have. I can say things I would never say in real life. Maybe i am a little repressed and some repressed parts can come out when I fantasize or converse with strangers. I find out more about myself in the process, so maybe that is why I stay with it, it is providing me a benefit. Now mind you, I can jerk off to porn, so I didn't need a voyeur site for that. I actually like talking this out so I can figure out why I am doing this also. Hope this elucidates it a little for you.

And would he do it in the room next to Julia and Gavin? Gavin is really buffed and dotes on Natasha. He would fucking kill Akira if he raped Natasha! There would be a murder trial and VV would be closed! Just kidding about that.

Unsy, what happened with Christy? Did she pack and leave Tver? Or was that an old pic? I don't think she is leaving the project because there was no announcement and rather they announced yesterday she just had a health issue. Well, Julia and Gavin made up, just had a good fuck. Not a show, this was for them. Good for them. I hated seeing them fight. When everything is right, they are the cutest loving couple.

OK, hi guys. Here are my 2 cents. I agree with miscvoyeur (doesn't happen often) and unsy and others. Natasha and Akira was no "rape" attempt. C'mon! It was elegantly staged for our (their) benefit. Akira was smiling and laughing after, Natasha was fine after, they slept together, no problems. Simply, they agreed not to have sex, but to simulate sex. Other than her slight handjob and us seeing his cock this was soft porn, r rated sex. Miscvoyeur is absolutely right. Natasha out and out sucked his cock at that party, had sex with him in the bathroom, was the aggressor. Natasha is no virgin wilting flower. Did you see the party in Tver when she was tongue kissing Petra? Petra didn't have to seduce her. No, this "sex act" was simply meant to hook us into watching them. It worked, didn't it? Everytime a "new" person comes to VV we get a staged elaborate sex show, often not full sex. Remember Sonia sucking off Phil? They do it early on partly as an audition to VV and partly to hook us in. Christy sure hooked us in with her fuck of Phil! How about Nastya fucking Messa the first time? She so teased his cock he practically came before he fucked her! Oh wait, Messa did that often! And I agree with everyone, there is no inhumanity in these houses. Everyone is consensual and voluntary with their sex acts. Now, these are not generally great human beings in the project. No one says anything hardly to a friend in the project when they leave. These people will not win humanitarian awards! Christy has "buried" many people here and her fucking behind nastya's back was horrible. For that matter, Natasha's fucking of Akira when he had a girl friend was bad also. BTW, Akira was making it look like a rape scene but it was phony as can be. I would rate it as a C for acting, D for sex.

Maybe you are right, timewarp. When I read my fiction books or watch my fiction shows or movies, I get into them like I was there in the story. It is called escaping. I am a passionate person so when I express myself it is a bit dramatic and flowery. It is just my nature. I admit that when I escape, I really get into the experience of it. I know it is not reality and I can separate from it, but I actually let myself experience the emotions of it. There are much worse escapes in life. There is drinking, smoking, drugs, overeating, cheating on your significant others, midlife crises. I don't do any of these. So this escape is much less bad. But, I know that you can be harmed a bit psychologically by letting your emotions go way up and down artificially. That is my issue. So, I have to for my own good, not get into the experience too deeply, try to take away some of the emotional roller coaster. If I can't do that, and I will try a little longer to do that, then I must separate myself from that. The problem is I get a little addicted to the experience. I must be stronger. I recently lost 55 pounds, knocked my diabetes type 2 back almost to normal levels, have been working out with a trainer at a gym. I have a wife, three grown kids (four if you count my son in law), was a successful lawyer, generally have a happy life. I can either control this or I have to kick it out as I have done other things in my life. And one other thing. This isn't just about sex. I watched porn for years. I see plenty of sex. It is the voyeuristic experience that has me hooked. I suspect others are as well. Oh, and I like most of you guys, even those who disagree with my statements. Camcaps is kind of an addiction as well. I do appreciate your earlier efforts, timewarp. I resisted it because addicted people always do. I don't think like you, suspect we have had different lives, have different personalities, but we are both human beings worthy of respect. And I did listen to you even if I was upset. I have always had the philosophy that you can learn things even from those you disagree with. I am an open, honest person and I treat people with respect. So, in short, as long as you are respectful with me, I will always listen.

I don't think they owe us, but I don't like being led on and teased (I suppose Akira could feel that way, had they not agreed in advance to what they did). Imagine if a girl did that to you. Well, that is what VV did to us. I guess I deserve it because I wanted a sex show (but not a fake one). And you might not be wrong timewarp about this site. I have no idea how legal it is under russian law. It does feel as if there are obvious demands and expectations by VV towards the participants. However, I am not a prude. I am not abashed to admit I want to see sex here. Of course, only if it is consensual and voluntary. And this site is not rlc. If you think that on this site they just live their spontaneous lives and we have or should have no impact or influence over what they are doing, then you are deluding yourself. VV responds to every complaint by tacking here, tacking there. Shows are planned, games are planned. You know what is not planned? When they started playing ball and other games in Voro tonight. That was spontaneous. Julia and Gavin having a fight this morning. That was spontaneous. Akira and Natasha doing a fake fuck, planned.