mr1010

Yeah, I'd love to see Christy fuck the new guy in her room in the light. Oh, and it is now hard to watch Julia and not picture her pornos. If you looked at Julia without seeing her pornos or her sex acts in Voro, would you picture her as a porn star. She looks so ordinary although a killer body.

Good point, cassy. I'm sure they are expensive to VV after all look what they probably get for the porn shoots. Yeah, maybe a little while more. Unless they just want a place to crash after work. BTW, have you noticed that for the most part their sex at VV is not nearly as exciting as their porn shoots? Probably they didn't think we'd find out they were porn stars if they didn't do much porny type stuff. Like imagine if she did anal all of a sudden and he'd pull out and shoot all over her face, just like in porn clips. No, they have to be more subtle for the calmer subscribers, not scare them away. And man, Julia got up from bed before and it looked like her hips and glut muscles were killing her. I wonder what did that for her. He needs to massage her better so she can better do her day and her night jobs. She certainly isn't sore from her "frequent" sex at Voro. Christy fucked like 4 times last night, Sonia fucks Ivo at least twice a day. From the couple we get maybe a bj, maybe a little fuck, that's it. So it wasn't that Julia didn't like sex in front of the cameras, it was that she does it too much. I will say one thing though, she will be really big in the porn business. Only thing is to get real big, she has to also do girls, two guys, etc. Is Bukkake far behind? I will definitely watch for her on porn sites. Crazy!

Yeah, spielo, what a big surprise, VV not acting on repair requests! Hey, but at least they got tired porn stars!

I will now probably watch Christy more. She is definitely a real good looking girl. She looks happier after that all night fucking by Ivo's friend. I hope he comes back and moves into Voro with her. And I like now watching Sonia have sex, though her sex is kind of milquetoast compared to others. The couple may be better to watch on porn.

Yeah, they are definitely not doing some things they do on the porn sites. And she is beat most nights. So we are getting sloppy seconds and paying for it, unlike free porn. At least, save some good stuff for us.

Oh my fucking god! I saw Julia's porn videos, a couple of them. No wonder she has no fucking energy for VV. My question is why are they here? Surely, they don't need the money. And with all this stuff available for free, why watch them on VV? I mean is VV just a place to rest in between shoots? And I thought that Christy was good sexually. Julia is amazing! I mean anal, anything. I guess we can watch Voro if we want to see what porn stars are like in their real lives. Kind of like a behind the scenes. What a fucking joke! I now really like Sonia and Christy, who while acting like porn stars, are not really porn stars.

Cassy, I agree with you. VV was desperate for good people in Voro. Do you think they know they do porn on the outside, at VV? What would you do, tell on them to VV if they don't know? I wouldn't want to do that to the couple. Even if I don't like the fraud, they are a nice young couple and they do have the right to work for a living, even in porn. But, I don't have to stay on VV if I am dissatisfied. I am mulling it over.

Unsichtbarer, I just unblocked pm's so you can pm me. It wasn't just you, I blocked all messages because I used to get some strange pm's. Sorry about that.

Oh cassy, I meant to ask you, what do you mean by I know what I can do, change simple?

Did they have sex, I left for a while? So what do you guys think, cassy and unsichtbarer? Are they a real couple who enjoy doing porn or just pros putting on being a couple? Because I can accept it if they are just a couple who like doing porn just with each other, because then what they are doing on VV is just the same thing. Many young people today do amateur porn just with each other and still have a good relationship. If they are just partners sleeping in the same bed faking being a real couple, then I have a problem with that. And by the way, if they shoot porn during the day, then that means VV and us are getting sloppy seconds and not very good at that.

Now they are in the tub, continuing. Time for another porn bj and facial? Did you see how Julia walked gingerly from the bedroom. She looks very sore. Too much fucking earlier today in the porn shoot? No wonder we don't get as much late at night. She is fucking beat!

I think I just figured out something. Maybe the last few nights, Julia didn't want to perform because she was tired of performing before the porn shoots earlier in the day. This gives me more of a perspective on them. Also, they don't like to kiss a lot. Real couples do, porn star partners not so much.

Cassy, I agree with you 100%. If this is all fake, this sucks! You know, you sized them up early on a few days ago and said it seemed all wrong, that they were not a real couple. Kudos to you! Tver is bad enough, but at least as far as we know they are not actual porn stars. I don't appreciate being used and abused by this fraud by VV. I now really miss the days of Phil, Dizi, Tanya when there may not have been much sex but the people were real people, not porn stars. People would try to handle the project, couldn't do it, that was real. Sure we know they make shows of their sex and script things, but not to this extent.

I am fucking blown away! Julia and Gavin are porn stars. Now that bj and facial in the tub that looked so professional makes sense. They just hired fucking porn stars to be the couple, wow! I now look at Voro and VV in a different light. Everything is fake, they are just partners in porn. Then why the f.... did they have problems performing in front of the cameras the last few nights? And you know, I almost thought I recognized Julia from some porn clip I had seen, but it didn't click because different context. When I see the pictures now, the facial in the clip looks exactly like the one she did the other night. Wow! Now, I have big trouble with the whole concept of Voro as at least a semi relationship site. Are Julia and Gavin even really boyfriend/girlfriend or just partners faking their relationship? I see VV as fraudulent in trying to put forward these people as a couple. It really pisses me off! You know, if this is all fake and not just merely shows, I can just go on porn sites and watch their fucking videos, who needs VV? I will watch a little more to see if they are a couple or just totally fake. If they are fake, I'll quit vv and just go on their porn sites.

Julia talking with Christy in her room, maybe signing Contract. Don't know what is going on with the couple. Actually glad to see Christy back in Voro. She kind of has taken Julia a little under her wing. Maybe that will help Julia with the cameras. It could be that Julia's primary problem is dealing with the cameras and putting on shows. See no evidence of problems between her and Gavin in their relationship. Julia looks at and stares at the cameras at times. Never seen someone on VV do that so much, there is obviously something she has to work out there. Gavin has no issues with it. Maybe Christy can get them to relax, get a little sensual.

I don't know if they read camcaps and understand English, but if you do Julia, you are a nice girl and a nice couple, but tend to your man, he has needs as do you. And the project kind of requires some sex.

yeah, that's true, tallguy. I basically look forward to seeing them have a good sex session most nights at the end. I don't expect them to have sex like Christy and new guy did. I just worry that something is wrong there. I know you can't see in their bedrooms now, but Julia has been kind of sketchy the last couple of nights in bed with Gavin. I think he was real horny last night and she let him eat her a bit, wasn't much into it and rejected having sex or giving a bj. He is very patient and not demanding of her but he was a little upset. Today, he wasn't affectionate much, she tried a little, but when it came time for bed, she stalled with long bath, creams, etc., then no sex. He waited like an hour in bed for her not even much using his phone. Then, nothing. And she doesn't have her period and the cameras shouldn't bother her after the other couple of nights. So what's up with her? She has also cried a little to herself a few times. And the arts and craft stuff was crazy. I think they did it because she didn't want them to be intimate and he was considerate of her. They also cleaned the apartments incessantly all day. My feeling based on my experience, is that they are avoiding intimacy. He because he doesn't want to be inconsiderate, her because of some unfathomable reason. I wonder if they'll last another week, particularly if Christy is not around. She at least spices things up. I hope I am reading too much into this, but the signs are not good.

First of all, I pay for this site. Secondly, I never assumed anything about Christy and the new guy. I thought there could be some attraction, though I didn't expect that kind of connection that quick. And although they put on great shows in Tver, the sex was real, the attraction was real and they liked sex with each other. It was more like a blind date set up by Ivo that worked beyond imagination. He set up his friend with Christy. It didn't have to work. Haven't you seen how if Christy doesn't like someone sexually she rejects him totally, Messa? So, when we think they might become a couple we know this means in a VV sense, a sexual couple. I have no illusions they'll fall in love with each other, so I get what you're saying, beancounter. And I know the couple in Voro is a real couple and I respect that. Let me tell you where I am coming from so you understand. I am older though I think young, I am in a committed relationship for a long time, and I think I understand sex within a committed relationship which I have. So, when I see a young couple like Julia and Gavin, I see what they are going through and I worry that perhaps they are having problems with their relationship, which shows up first as sexual issues. Maybe also, Julia is having some qualms about the project or cameras. In any event, it may be interfering with their relationship. If we like seeing a couple's relationship, then we don't want to see them have problems. And let's face it, this isn't rlc and the couples should be having sex often (though not necessarily every night). I just see that Gavin looked put off the last couple of nights by her rejecting him or not wanting to have sex. Since he cares for her, he puts up with it, but it maybe creating problems for them. Let's agree that we should give them more time, but I look for signs that show that things are getting better. So I decided I will watch a bit longer and try to be patient. And who knows, maybe Christy will come back with new guy and spice things up in Voro. Otherwise, I fear Voro is in trouble. The whole project is becoming one big Tver. I even said a week ago that maybe they should just close Voro and move Christy into Tver. That was before the new couple. Let's hope they don't lose them too.

Nice to hear from you, tallguy. Julia and Gavin are new relatively, it is true, and we should give them some time. But, I see little signs that others have noticed as well, that there are some clues that Julia and Gavin are not in tune sexually. And Julia inexplicably cries a little at times, usually after she and Gavin don't have sex. But, I think it is her that usually keeps it from happening. Gavin is absolutely devoted to her, will do anything for her, will not push her on sex much. They did this inane arts & crafts thing today where they cut up letters and painted them, for hours, put them on a cardboard, then got rid of it! They didn't even keep it. When Phil used to do things like that, he would keep it, put it up on a wall. They just basically killed time because they had nothing else to do and because she wasn't interested in having sex during the day. Mind you, Christy was out all day at Tver and they knew it, so they had the place to themselves. If I was a young couple, I would have jumped her bones in no time (well in a nice respectful way of course). But they did nothing. They don't even kiss much or snuggle. She seemed to try to hug Gavin a couple of times perhaps because she has been rejecting him, but today Gavin was not giving affection back. He seems a bit pissed at her. So they cleaned house all day, did laundry, anything to avoid intimacy. Then he waits in bed for her for over an hour, just waiting, not using his phone, and she takes a long bath, puts creams on and goes to bed. You know when I know they won't have sex? When she puts cream on her acne on her face. She won't have sex with that on her face. She has done that the last two nights. They used to have baths together, now they do separate baths or showers. There are definitely serious problems between the two that they are not confronting. Simple solution for Julia. Simply seduce him and give him sex even first thing in the morning. If he doesn't want it, she'll know she needs to talk it out and that they have problems. But, they are both calm people, not affectionate much, and they gloss over the problems. I really had much hope for them. And they are nice people and Julia has a killer body she is not shy to show. We'll know much more by tomorrow night.

Good idea, spielo. The repairs start to pile up. The door in the couples room, Christy's night cameras, the cameras in Voro are glitchy on motion, cameras in Tver are strangely located, etc. Of course, we need motion in Voro to be able to tell that they are glitchy. About the only thing positive lately about the couple was that when they had sexual activity, they did it in the light. But not much lately. The couple needs to talk out their differences on sex. Those differences can kill a relationship if you don't understand each other and compromise. Gavin is very calm, doesn't say much, so he probably starts to resent being rejected. I don't get them because they are very affectionate at times. And Christy is no newbie at sex, witness that blowjob in the tub and facial. And that shows she is not afraid of the cameras. Just very moody.

I know. Addiction is a tough thing.

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I don't know if this is third or fourth round. I lose track. You think Christy and new guy are sexually compatible? They have to get this guy for Christy. Since Petra will be back and Charlie may be back on weekends, they need to move Christy and new guy into Voro. But he is Ivo's friend and Christy likes Tver, so I don't know if it is possible. Plus, new guy may not want part of this crazy project and who can blame him. But, with Julia and Gavin having problems, it may be the only way to save Voro, to get him and Christy there. The competition might get things to change with the couple, maybe.....?

I don't know, Spielo, but maybe you are right. At least in the sexual realm, they are not on the same page. Every night, Julia seems to cry. My guess is that tonight, she might have wanted to have sex and he rejected her since she keeps rejecting him. Or maybe she rejected him and they argued. We can't know because we don't know what they say. I was fooled by them based upon the initial couple of sex sessions that maybe they were real, but now I almost wonder if they had been going out but hadn't lived together before. When people first move in together the sex is uneven and misunderstandings can happen (one wants, one doesn't), whereas when you are dating, you see each other a couple times a week and you have exciting sex because it isn't all the time and you want to keep the other person's interest. So, where does it go from here? Eventually, they will fight more because Gavin seems to wait for sex and she stalls and doesn't want it. I said earlier that it seems that Julia takes a bath forever then puts on creams forever, then doesn't do anything to turn him on. He waited in bed for like over an hour for her, then she goes to bed. Again. Last night, he started eating her out and when he went to kiss her she got mad and went in the bath. I wonder also, if she is having qualms about the cameras or the project. If not for the early nights' sex sessions, you'd almost think they were one of the rlc fake (platonic) couples. I think there is the possibility this couple may self destruct and be out within a week. It's a shame because I really like them and liked their sex together and I want them to succeed. Maybe miscvoyeur is right, maybe people coming in as couples don't work here. I want to believe it can work, but this is a crucible being under the cameras. Even Akira and Charlie didn't last. Only those who they choose to have sex with and are compatible with seem to last for awhile. I think Voro concept may be doomed.

I'm just going to say one last thing about the couple and then that's it for now. Then, I may not go back on VV until at least tomorrow night. I think Julia avoids sex at times. She takes long baths, creams up forever, cleans house,etc. She doesn't try to turn him on and has rejected him at times. Maybe he isn't pushing her because he is afraid of being turned down again. But they are going to have to confront their issues eventually. If only they spoke a language we could understand, we would know what they tell each other. For all I know, they may have discussed that they would not fool around today. It is frustrating not to know. I could accept it better if I only understood what was going on. At least Christy got hers.