FrankZabba Posted Tuesday at 11:48 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:48 PM 1 hour ago, itohkata said: I'll start with the TL;DR : you're still full of shit and try to make your tantrum pass as a selfless action. That's simpler than that : RLC sells subscription. Visitors buys subscription. you don't like the lack of transparency : you don't subscribe you don't like or are not sure that you will like the content : you don't subscribe you think that's too expensive : you don't subscribe any other fucking reason you can think of : you don't subscribe. There is now only ONE metric that they are interested in : subscription. Don't tell those people who have been running this very business for more than 10 years how they should run it. You know shit about that. They do. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's a stupid one. You might aswell give us your opinion on how to terraform mars or build a submarine that will fare better than those of OceanGate. FFS dude, what makes you think they give a shit about transparency ? That's a website, offering (some or only depending on you view) porn content, ran behind a shell company, run by expats, mostly exploiting desperate people so that other people can pay, with a customer service that answers when they feel like it, same as the update on departure/arrival, places disappearing, etc. There is literaly 0 quality of service. They don't give a fuck about subscribers, so freeloaders and wanabee subs ? Come on... There is nothing that RLC owns. Click Here Ltd, the company that owns RLC, owns XLIFE. That's their brands (and not even registered it seems). The only thing that could prevent them from doing anything with anything else is the piece of paper that pass as a contract that ties them with the people on cam. And WTF does that empty phrase I emphasized mean ? you were short of arguments but that sounded good in your head ? Cross site deals have existed since the beginning of the commercial internet, and was transposed from what was happening in B&M stores. That's not nike or adidas or whatever true legitimate brand you can think of dude... They don't give a shit about PR. They don't advertise. They fucking don't need you to tell them anything. They are the only one that may judge what is sustainable or not. How delusional can you be ? And that last phrase, who gave you that ? Chat GPT ? Or did you copypasted it from something that has nothing to do with RLC ? you're such a buzz kill Quote
maxfactor Posted Tuesday at 11:57 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:57 PM 1 hour ago, itohkata said: I'll start with the TL;DR : you're still full of shit and try to make your tantrum pass as a selfless action. That's simpler than that : RLC sells subscription. Visitors buys subscription. you don't like the lack of transparency : you don't subscribe you don't like or are not sure that you will like the content : you don't subscribe you think that's too expensive : you don't subscribe any other fucking reason you can think of : you don't subscribe. There is now only ONE metric that they are interested in : subscription. Don't tell those people who have been running this very business for more than 10 years how they should run it. You know shit about that. They do. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's a stupid one. You might aswell give us your opinion on how to terraform mars or build a submarine that will fare better than those of OceanGate. FFS dude, what makes you think they give a shit about transparency ? That's a website, offering (some or only depending on you view) porn content, ran behind a shell company, run by expats, mostly exploiting desperate people so that other people can pay, with a customer service that answers when they feel like it, same as the update on departure/arrival, places disappearing, etc. There is literaly 0 quality of service. They don't give a fuck about subscribers, so freeloaders and wanabee subs ? Come on... There is nothing that RLC owns. Click Here Ltd, the company that owns RLC, owns XLIFE. That's their brands (and not even registered it seems). The only thing that could prevent them from doing anything with anything else is the piece of paper that pass as a contract that ties them with the people on cam. And WTF does that empty phrase I emphasized mean ? you were short of arguments but that sounded good in your head ? Cross site deals have existed since the beginning of the commercial internet, and was transposed from what was happening in B&M stores. That's not nike or adidas or whatever true legitimate brand you can think of dude... They don't give a shit about PR. They don't advertise. They fucking don't need you to tell them anything. They are the only one that may judge what is sustainable or not. How delusional can you be ? And that last phrase, who gave you that ? Chat GPT ? Or did you copypasted it from something that has nothing to do with RLC ? The people who currently own and call the shots at RLC have not owned it for over 10 years. These idiots took over just prior to Covid. 2018 or 19. Quote
Detrez Posted Wednesday at 12:07 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:07 AM 8 minutes ago, maxfactor said: The people who currently own and call the shots at RLC have not owned it for over 10 years. These idiots took over just prior to Covid. 2018 or 19. Hey Max, they are in Cyprus just like VHTV. Why Cyprus, possibly because of laws? Quote
maxfactor Posted Wednesday at 12:10 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:10 AM 3 minutes ago, Detrez said: Hey Max, they are in Cyprus just like VHTV. Why Cyprus, possibly because of laws? I don't know. Quote
NoOneSpecial Posted Wednesday at 12:29 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:29 AM 20 minutes ago, Detrez said: Hey Max, they are in Cyprus just like VHTV. Why Cyprus, possibly because of laws? Quick Google search says.... Cyprus is considered a good place to do business primarily due to its low corporate tax rate (currently at 12.5%), which is one of the lowest in the European Union, coupled with a favorable tax regime, a strategic location, a network of double taxation treaties, and a business-friendly environment that attracts foreign investors and entrepreneurs; making it ideal for setting up holding companies and international business structures. Quote
Detrez Posted Wednesday at 12:30 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:30 AM 1 minute ago, NoOneSpecial said: Quick Google search says.... Cyprus is considered a good place to do business primarily due to its low corporate tax rate (currently at 12.5%), which is one of the lowest in the European Union, coupled with a favorable tax regime, a strategic location, a network of double taxation treaties, and a business-friendly environment that attracts foreign investors and entrepreneurs; making it ideal for setting up holding companies and international business structures. ahh interesting. Thanks for the info. Quote
maxfactor Posted Wednesday at 02:41 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:41 AM 2 hours ago, Detrez said: Hey Max, they are in Cyprus just like VHTV. Why Cyprus, possibly because of laws? They are actually in Tortola BVI...but whatever. Quote
maxfactor Posted Wednesday at 02:48 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:48 AM On 2/13/2025 at 6:25 AM, tsuigou said: The point is actually not stupid at all and definitely valid from the perspective of a potential new subscriber. Existing subscribers aren't affected whatsoever, but nobody in their right mind would buy something with absolutely no clue what product they're buying. And I'm sure there's ways to see the type of content available, but given that participants switch out, anyone who isn't already subscribed has no idea if any of the current participants are what they look for. I've subbed before but atm there's nobody available who I would pay money to see. And without the free cams or at least a list of names I have no inclination to resub. That said, asking people to cancel their active subscription is stupid. RLC will find out what a dumb move this is all on their own in due time. RLC is currently trying to force people to watch the freecams and thus they hope subscribe...over at their xshite site. They still have the preview windows in place at RLC...just blurred. Arn't they clever! They are under the delusion that if they force people to watch over at xshite...they will have the urge to sub. At a higher price no less! As for RLC, the blurry previews are likely temporary, otherwise they would have moved them off the site all together. Quote
Detrez Posted Wednesday at 03:15 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:15 AM 19 minutes ago, maxfactor said: RLC is currently trying to force people to watch the freecams and thus they hope subscribe...over at their xshite site. They still have the preview windows in place at RLC...just blurred. Arn't they clever! They are under the delusion that if they force people to watch over at xshite...they will have the urge to sub. At a higher price no less! As for RLC, the blurry previews are likely temporary, otherwise they would have moved them off the site all together. xshite as you call it, is a joke. The only thing they could do to keep it alive is move L&P and L&T over there since they seem to have a fan base. I can't believe anyone in their right mind would pay that much for xshite. Why would I pay to watch a woman play with Jewely every blue moon, 5 NN places and 13 or so places with 2-4 cameras? Lol 1 Quote
chogdad Posted Wednesday at 05:58 AM Posted Wednesday at 05:58 AM Looks like they're trying to promote/encourage the 'reels' buying thing, just clicked on replay and a different screen of sorts appeared with a section highlighted at the bottom saying '60 reels' which i presume is what it would cost to save that replay. No thanks! 2 Quote
NoOneSpecial Posted Wednesday at 09:26 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:26 AM 3 hours ago, chogdad said: Looks like they're trying to promote/encourage the 'reels' buying thing, just clicked on replay and a different screen of sorts appeared with a section highlighted at the bottom saying '60 reels' which i presume is what it would cost to save that replay. No thanks! They added a reels link to the upper right of the replay thumbnail. Actually not a bad idea. Just click anywhere else on the thumbnail and you'll be fine. Quote
costa049 Posted Wednesday at 03:17 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 03:17 PM 17 hours ago, itohkata said: I'll start with the TL;DR : you're still full of shit and try to make your tantrum pass as a selfless action. That's simpler than that : RLC sells subscription. Visitors buys subscription. you don't like the lack of transparency : you don't subscribe you don't like or are not sure that you will like the content : you don't subscribe you think that's too expensive : you don't subscribe any other fucking reason you can think of : you don't subscribe. There is now only ONE metric that they are interested in : subscription. Don't tell those people who have been running this very business for more than 10 years how they should run it. You know shit about that. They do. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's a stupid one. You might aswell give us your opinion on how to terraform mars or build a submarine that will fare better than those of OceanGate. FFS dude, what makes you think they give a shit about transparency ? That's a website, offering (some or only depending on you view) porn content, ran behind a shell company, run by expats, mostly exploiting desperate people so that other people can pay, with a customer service that answers when they feel like it, same as the update on departure/arrival, places disappearing, etc. There is literaly 0 quality of service. They don't give a fuck about subscribers, so freeloaders and wanabee subs ? Come on... There is nothing that RLC owns. Click Here Ltd, the company that owns RLC, owns XLIFE. That's their brands (and not even registered it seems). The only thing that could prevent them from doing anything with anything else is the piece of paper that pass as a contract that ties them with the people on cam. And WTF does that empty phrase I emphasized mean ? you were short of arguments but that sounded good in your head ? Cross site deals have existed since the beginning of the commercial internet, and was transposed from what was happening in B&M stores. That's not nike or adidas or whatever true legitimate brand you can think of dude... They don't give a shit about PR. They don't advertise. They fucking don't need you to tell them anything. They are the only one that may judge what is sustainable or not. How delusional can you be ? And that last phrase, who gave you that ? Chat GPT ? Or did you copypasted it from something that has nothing to do with RLC ? While it's true that RLC's business model focuses on subscriptions, that doesn't mean transparency should be abandoned. The issue isn’t about forcing anyone to subscribe, it’s about ensuring that when people do subscribe, they know exactly what they're getting. Hiding previews forces everyone, including long-term subscribers at renewal, to commit without a clear view of the content. Yes, RLC may be after subs, but they need to recognize that treating users transparently and giving them a way to make an informed decision is key to building trust and keeping them. Moreover, the fact that their sister site openly displays exclusive content while RLC hides it only highlights an inconsistency in their approach. We're not trying to tell a business veteran how to run their company; we're simply advocating for a model that respects customers by giving them the full picture before they spend their money. Briefly, RLC's current strategy prioritizes short-term subscription gains over the trust and transparency that underpin long-term customer loyalty and, consequently, long-term service sustainability. By hiding what subscribers are actually buying—and when you consider the glaring inconsistency of their sister site openly showcasing exclusive house while already having most of the houses from the mother site, some of them with free previews, not to meantion the highly questionable subscription plans—it becomes clear that this approach undermines credibility. Whether you're a new or existing subscriber, not knowing exactly what you're getting sets the stage for future dissatisfaction. Ultimately, a sustainable business model should honor transparency, ensuring that every customer can make informed decisions and thus keep the business sustainable and profitable for the company in the long-run. Quote
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