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They both have some sort of a commitment to their man (Nelly more so than Martina) If it wasn't for the RLC perks, can you envision Martina leaving Alberto and RLC to live the life that she wants? I'm of the opinion, that as much as adores Nelly, Martina does not want to be fucking for voyeuristic strangers at 30. Trying to set a 10 yr. relationship aside, darn near impossible, it is easier for Martina to walk away from Alberto and RLC, than Nelly, a married woman and her job. Martina does see a future, as you have noted, but what will win out? The classic battle of head vs. heart. We always have to keep in mind, Nelly has a lot more to lose than Martina, when it comes to looking at a future with RLC. Good insights Jenn!

they actually spent most of their time fucking in the hotel room. If the translators are correct, this is much like a hetero couple, whose relationship is based on sex, one day looking at each other, and giving the Peggy Lee line "Is that all there is." The problems, that you speak of, are those dealing with their respective mates? Thanks for the insight!

With a capital T, that rhymes with P and that stands for pool.

Maybe some prefer to actually think.

Easy conversion. (Celsius x 2 ) + 32 = Fahrenheit Or (F-32)/2 = C There's a formula, you can look it up.

If she is going to college in Valencia, is her run in RLC near, or is she going to take college classes remotely? Any ideas. Thanks.

I like the first part of your paragraph. There is human tendencey to go with the better looking person. I also. It's easy to give Martina the benefit of the doubt because of her attractiveness, Alberto, kind of slovenly. Alberto may be the sharper of the two, while Martina has learned to use her ASSets to get through life. Good point.

True, there is no technical obligation to have sex, but many more knowledgeable people than I, say that's where the extra money is. When the trip was brought up, commentators said it wasn't for family reasons. So, like many others, we have contrary opinions of the trip.

I agree.

When Nelly & Martina get back from their non-RLC tryst, and have sex with their respective mates, will it be done with love and compassion, or out of RLC obligation and $$? This tryst,also, begs the question, since this was not a trip to see family, who and/or what was the reason to leave Barcelona and be off RLC grid. Why did they have to leave? What was done there, that they couldn't do n Barcelona? Only their hearts and minds know for sure. We probably will never know.

Catatonic, Jenn, you should tryout for Jeopardy!😀

I like your observation about Alberto being mechanical and lazy lover. I was in that camp, too. I've seen older videos of them, he wasn't always like this. Maybe you're on to something. Good points made!

His stress levels must be or going to be through the roof. Since, we don't live in a vacuum, it will be interesting how this affects his relationship with Martina. With her high libido, stress can really impact a male, could this make it interesting for her to fulfill her sexual needs. Thanks for the response.

This sudden talk of money, on top of arguing about it, makes me wonder, in addition to Martina, is a note coming due or has passed? I remember vague talk about money but nothing like this. Does Alberto owe money to others?

Open relationships, what are those?

Your paragraph 3 says it all. Likability, that's the root of most of the comments, Kitty vs. Martina. In high school (USA), boys had a saying: There are girls to date, and there are girls to marry. Very perceptive Jenn.

I understand the ugly duckling and swan relationship; it happens with both sexes. What I don't understand is the CC community giving Martina a relatively light pass on her affair, as opposed to people being heavy handed against Kitty. They are both stepping out on their respective mates. That's my question. Why the double standard? People seem to imply that Kitty has mental health problems with her extreme aggressiveness. At the same time, with Smith's passivity, could that be a mental health issue also? Sometimes it seems Martina gets a pass because it's girl on girl, and a lot of the CC community, both men and women, enjoy watching them. Kitty seems as though she is stepping out with another guy(s), and to a lot of people that is forbidden. If Kitty was fucking Linda, would there such an outcry against Kitty? I know pure speculation, and there is no answer.

Alberto does know what's going on. True. As of yet, I haven't seen any translated dialogue that says Alberto accepts what Martina is doing. He may have decided to live with it, but has he accepted it. No, translation seen as of yet.

Unfortunately I think you're correct. Context doesn't matter as long as some can see carpet munching. Great South Park episode by the way!

I may be missing something here. If Kitty is doing what people are reporting on, how is that any different than what Martina is doing. Kitty's infidelity involves a penis, but Martina's infidelity doesn't. Both are cheating on their mates. Kitty getting hammered for it, and Martina getting somewhat of a pass. What am I missing here?

First time I've read about Martina saying la puta. I wonder if she picked this up from Nelly? Even though Martina's libido is very high; it seems that Nelly has an edge in maturity, sexual and everyday life. From what I've read, Martina may be about 6-7 years behind in her schooling, and this may spill over into her everyday maturity. By saying la puta, she may be trying to spice up her sex life with Alberto. Let's face it, he's not Bogdan or Tibor. After 9/10 years together, this may be her attempt to get him to be more attentive when they fuck. It will be interesting as M&A proceed in their relationship.

Thanks for the information. Between marks and bruises, it must have been one hell of a day for her. Hope she had fun. Thanks again.

The new girl in the villa, I don't know her name, her legs are beat to hell. Does anyone know what happened? She wears round glasses.

Viv doesn't have the Martina gene then.😀

Smith and Alberto, twin sons of different mothers.😃