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I think you are being overly harsh Deano, but I do think a lot of people get frustrated with my Greek friend. I have lot of respect for him as few people invest the time and energy into this than he does. I used to invest a lot more but not so much anymore. I don’t agree with everything he says … and his Greek writing skills make it difficult at times … but he is like the scarecrow to me.

It’s always funny to me when someone describes how a person feels but then says “he or she just doesn’t show it”. If you feel a lot for someone, don’t you, by definition, show it? You are better than this DD. I agree with you that Alberto had a crush on Martina. He won the lottery with her. I think her dominance (no one tells me what to do) probably causes him to by shy when it comes to things like flowers etc. Worse thing ever is to make advance on someone you care about and that advance is rejected. Based on what we have seen … it is clear to me that Alberto knew where he stood with Martina and he honored that.

For starters, and a very big thing they have in common: 1. They are both not shy and are OK fucking on cam on the internet. This one covers a lot of territory.

This is a good point. Most FWB’s are friends that live separate lives and have casual hookups. Favorite phrase in these times I have noticed: “let’s keep it casual” which is really code words for “I don’t want a commitment but just want to fuck”. But … I think the RLC opportunity plays into this here. I could easily see them talking about it … “we are good friends, we like to fuck, maybe this is a way to get free room and board”.? I have to believe there are some FWB fuck buddies that agree to share an apartment I order to save money. You need ground rules for this situation. I wonder what their rules are.

Ha! Not sure about that. You and @philo are two of my favs and I guess the mom in me hates seeing you guys bicker all the time.

You are old school and that is what makes you special. Totally agree with the idea that borders should not be crossed. I just don’t think Martina and Alberto have defined borders the same way an “old school” like you would.

If talking about Hakeem, who fucked lots of girls on cam, is OT and out of order here, then too I am guessing the constant quibbling by you too is also out of order!

I did not see it but when it comes to big fights on RLC … the extreme goes quite a bit far on the scale including assault and violence. Martina and Alberto have never gotten anywhere close to that.

This is a great point. I contend since they had no major commitment between themselves, none of their disagreements escalated to major fights. When you are good friends, it is easier to just “agree to disagree” and move on.

Not such a big question. They are FWB. They enjoy each other. I think Alberto developed some strong feelings perhaps. This was a great gig … fuck for money. Otherwise they lived separate lives. They rarely went out together and when they did the true-believers would gush here about how wonderful it was to see. I don’t think they will struggle at all living separately, to be honest.

Well this answer is a bit of a cop-out; however, you have been more pragmatic than others so I will give you a pass. Lord knows plenty of relationships end with each party believing that “we just drifted apart”. As for reuniting, I don’t agree at all because I don’t think they had much of a relationship beyond FWB. I will admit that pre-Nelly which is also before I subscribed, maybe they were more committed to each other. It for the last couple of years they clearly have been just roommates who fucked. They really DO NOT have a lot in common. So I can’t see them getting back together.

For all of those who feel Martina and Alberto started with a committed loving but open relationship … not just FWB but in the early days they both were in this for the long term … WHAT HAPPENED? They both have their side action now, they both seem into each other as evidence of them making love a few days ago. Martina’s biggest issue with Alberto has been resolved … I think we can safely say he is no longer a ni ni. It’s clear there are a lot more Alberto fans here today than there were in the ni ni days when he played video games all day. Both Martina and Alberto are making a better life for themselves. We are happy for them right? So what the fuck? Why are they splitting up? I’m interested in hearing others thoughts. You all know what I think.

This is a well-done well-reasoned post. The only part that is hard to swallow is the idea that Martina was becoming upset/frustrated that Alberto was not out getting side-pussy in honor of their open relationship. It’s possible of course but I am skeptical. I have no experience in open relationships but can imagine if only one half of the relationship has side action, it could create resentment. But I don’t believe we ever saw this with Alberto. Of course she seems happy that Alberto found someone to fuck … but I contend what we see is a relieved Martina … a Martina that is not into Alberto as much as he is into her … knowing now that her very close friend is moving beyond having romantic attraction to her. Time will tell if we see them move out and stop living together.

I would agree that Juliet could be a fuck buddy too. It’s too early to tell but she certainly is “easy” isn’t she? Yes hindsight is 20/20 as they say.

But have they broken up? They fucked each other a few days ago. Some here are calling it a break up but it feels to me they have agreed to go separate ways. But your theory is as valid as mine.

@ddhm said: I disagree about your emotions explanation , I truly believe that Martina really loved Alberto emotionally at some point , mostly when they first joined and perhaps till Martina started understanding the POWER she had/has as a tenant . Don’t forget that she has been reading the forum ( it is always unforgettable the night that her brother fucked in the guest room the big boobs sex lover at that time , she was interacting with the forum that night .. ) .. add to this the laziness that Alberto showed despite having to fight for money and chase opportunities with the amount of money he had borrowed from Martina , I think the arrival of Nelly and Bogdan permanently in Barcelona and the time she got to meet her , it sealed her thoughts that Alberto was just a part of her life , a nice and amazing journey and story . I still believe though that she will have difficulties to love as much as he loved/loves him as a person , friend , personality and character . He will ALWAYS be her best friend and THE ONLY ONE she will always trust. Of course you could be correct. I do not have the viewing experience pre-Nelly that you have. But it just seems to me that these are great friends and it’s difficult for me to believe that Martina ever loved Alberto romantically and in a monogamous fashion. I just don’t see it. Your post is well-written but at the end you go off the rails with hyperbole. Alberto is THE ONLY ONE she will trust? The ni ni? And he will be her best friend? Not Marta or the big guy or her brother or? We agree Alberto is very important to her. You don’t live with someone and fuck someone on the internet for 6-8 years and end up not being great friends.

@ddhm Said: this break up originally happened back in February , can we characterize a guest girl appearing on cameras a “ rebound action “ after nearly 7,5 months ?? This is a valid point but if we believe Alberto struggling letting go of Martina … it’s possible this breakup sex we are seeing is happening because he has finally let go.

Welcome to the party Starfire. Having subscribed at the beginning of Martina/Nelly … I can’t comment on how their sex life was before Nelly. But I have seen a few “old” clips and I trust the old-timers here that their love has never been super passionate, nothing like Martina/Nelly ever. Yet I agee they were more creative in the old days as I recall some role playing sex and things like that. While I continue to maintain my hypothesis that this began as a FWB relationship and will end as an FWB relationship, to your point, it is quite possible that Martina’s movement to lesbianism has not helped Alberto at all. I do believe that Alberto has hoped for more than FWB and Martina’s lesbian trysts probably had an effect on him. But this raises questions too … like if you are a guy crushing on a hot girl like Martina who is bisexual … don’t you try for a threesome? I don’t recall any evidence here that he was lobbying to join Nelly and Martina in bed. First, clearly, that would be an issue for Nelly/Bogdan … even worse than the status quo. But also I am guessing Martina did not want him involved … again again again … Alberto is a great close friend, a mentor, fuck buddies, but nothing more. Some seem sad here but not I. Alberto seems to have closure and moving forward with his life. Martina doesn’t yet know what she really wants in life … she may look sad but I believe she will be ok. Of course she is wondering if she is passing up a great guy. But she will be fine going forward. She is a motivated smart girl … her studies etc … that defines her. She loves sex and loves to party … nothing wrong with that if you have all the rest of the package. I chose to believe this is a happy ending. For those who think it is a sad ending … go look at some of the Kitty and Smith videos.

I don’t think Martina ever loved him and him doing all this to “win her love” was not going to work. But the story ends well because Alberto is on to a better life for him for having done all this work to change his life.

You are such a romantic my friend. When you first said you hoped he would keep the bedroom a sacred place I was skeptical. I would have been sad if he did. What that would have told me is he is not over Martina. It appears that Juliet has been the “rebound girlfriend”. Kudos to Alberto. I do wonder why he never fucked Martina with such vigor. My speculation on this is that she did not want it. She did not want Alberto to get too attached. She probably was aware that he was into her and she was not. They are just fuck buddies. She might have rejected his post-orgasm tenderness?

Indeed. These are two great friends.

You're killing me Moose. They are "fuck buddies", friends with benefits. I believe this more now than ever. It is hard to comprehend two people having sex "for fun" without any moral obligations ... just the desire to give each other an orgasm ... but it does happen. We all wish we had someone like that in our lives (at least in fantasy). I really was joking when I suggested Martina's idea was to let him fuck her so he improves his staying power. Who knows why she needed his cock then. But that's what "fuck buddies" are about. The sex is really meaningless in a way. You have a good buddy you like to share a cocktail with. These two share a cock and pussy. That's it.

The veterans here have said that early on their sex life was much more adventurous.

So nice to wake up to the CamCaps HOT! Flag flying on this room after a very long absence. When was the last time we burned through a couple of hundred posts so fast? And not one of those posts from me! I will admit to having a tiny bit of regret at not having a sub last night. But I think I will get over it. I am very happy for Alberto but I think I can survive not seeing him fuck this girl. "Confirmation Bias" is always a huge trap that people fall into and I am no exception, but I can't resist continuing to point out that Martina and Alberto are just great fuck buddies and "friends with benefits". How else do you explain them fucking and then less than 24 hours later Alberto is enjoying this new girl? One could imagine (speculation alert!) that Martina is happy for him, he is telling her he might score tonight, and she says "let's fuck so you can last longer tonight" or "let's fuck so you can tell me tomorrow who is better". All the talk about cheating is misguided in my opinion. No one is cheating on anyone here. And the relationship has not ended. Fuck buddies don't break up. They may go their separate ways but as we saw yesterday, when they are back together, they might easily decide to fuck. Even the talk about how skilled Alberto was makes sense if you believe he and Martina are fuck buddies. This new girl excites Alberto and he goes the extra mile. He might have a spot in his heart for Martina but he knows she will never have him the way he wants. Lastly, it was nice for me to see my good friend @ddhm show the excitement I recall from my first days here. He might have shot his load quicker than Alberto last night! Hope that wasn't too forward of a thing for me to say.

FWB relationships can live for years and years ... even an eternity.