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Well yes ... if Loraine does break out of her shell with Pam, it will need a catalyst. Who better than Gina and alcohol? Sorry, I know I am over eager. Eight to 10 hours from now they will all be snuggled into their beds half-naked after massages and a lot of dancing and maybe another fist fight.

Is Alberto doing both his and Martina's laundry? OMG that is a very sweet thing but perhaps too one of the most pathetic things I've seen here.

Well ... not quite what we all wanted I suppose ... but maybe tonight is the night that Loraine finds her inner Martina & Nelly. Pam would be the perfect partner.

Well the timing was certainly bad. That kiss could have revealed something. But I would be the last one here with this group to suggest a conspiracy! LOL Do we know if there are any parties planned in RLC Barca tonight?

But she did not pack anything it appeared. Also was the video glitchy at just the moment Alberto wanted to kiss her goodbye? Or just my video? This is so sad. Seeing her dancing in the shower and getting ready for obviously a very fun night (Nelly or no Nelly) ... making sure her body is perfectly made up ... while Alberto does the dishes and is looking at a Friday night and Saturday of video games.

I think if Caesar socialized with the group instead of staying holed up in Gina's room ... he might be better received. Does he think he is better than the rest of the villa? Or maybe the villa does not want him to be involved?

Why do you think we are all watching these channels??? LOL

I've noticed the temperature is always about 56-61 on the outside cams ... almost invariably ... going back 6-8 weeks when I joined. Is it really that temperate in Barca? I assume yes being on the Mediterranean. Or might these temps not to be trusted? No wonder why it is a great place to live, such consistent temperature! Here in midwest US, I've seen near 0F all the way to 63 at one point or the other in the last 4-6 weeks.

I do not have a replay sub so wondering if they put the fight on REPLAY? This would be even worse than doing nothing, i.e. they are promoting it. I did not see it. But to me, the fact they were back in bed together by end of the night, kinda tells me this was a big to do about nothing. I am zero tolerance with regard to any violence so yes this should be addressed in some way. Wondering if the "this is all show" crowd thinks the fight was a made up show? I am not a big fan of Caesar but at least Gina/Caesar are on the top 5 "real things on RLC" list along with Nelly/Martina, Linda/Tibor, Kitty/Smith, etc. It's a short list. And I recognize some would debate who is on this list and still others would say they are all "shows".

Wow.

"Good heavens it feels like I've got my ass kicked by my mum (see's 86 and going strong)" Aussie: My bad. Did not intend to make you or anyone feel lectured to. Was only making an observation after wading through a hundred posts or so. And thank you for the podcast tip. Will try to learn more later today.

It seems when we have beaten Martina and Alberto to death, the conversation goes off-track. One night it was about whether we are all addicted to RLC. Tonight it is about stalking. Here's a new take: I've heard about "swinging" and have read about it; however, I do not know any swingers in real life. There used to be a radio show on satellite radio about swinging that I listened to on a long drive across US. From everything I have learned, couples can be swingers, not individual people. Both the man and the woman (or I suppose two women or two men) can swing ... but they both engage in this TOGETHER. Swingers seem to be very open to sharing their partner with other couples. In fact, seeing your partner make love with someone else is part of the attraction to your partner. You WANT to see your partner HAPPY making love with someone else. I think most people think swinging can be healthy as long as both partners communicate and are secure in their love for each other. Like I said, I have not done it. I am a tiny bit skeptical but I believe if two people have a great relationship, it could work and be fun. I would not be opposed to trying it if my partner was willing. Nothing we see here comes close to being true swinging. I think Alberto exhibits some behaviors that may appear to be swinging when he apparently tolerates Martina's adventures with Nelly. But beyond that, since they are not experimenting in extra-marital relations TOGETHER ... as one ... I think this is going to be a problem for them. So ultimately this needs to be resolved ... either by eliminating the extra-marital relations or perhaps even better ... them becoming closer as a couple by experimenting with something like swinging. From an RLC perspective, nothing would blow the top off their site than an Alberto/Martina/Nelly/Bogdan swinger's weekend. If anyone reading this has been involved with swinging or has a truly open marriage, please chime in. This is a viewpoint I don't think we have heard from here. And maybe we won't hear anything because reporting on one's marriage on a public website is probably not a terribly great idea. Sorry for the long post. Last point: I've been away from RLC but have been checked in here daily. Yesterday it warmed my heart to hear that Alberto has upped his game and "was getting lessons from Nelly". Now tonight 24 hours later, he's back on the sofa. Is this a made-for-TV drama or what???

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Excellent conversation tonight. Although Nelly and Martina’s passionate sex is very telling on where this is going ... I thought them holding hands watching TV in the guest room was another huge tell. This is more than lust and certainly more than getting drunk and fucking like she reportedly told her mom. It was said they did not make love out of respect for Alberto but all Alberto needs to see is them holding hands. That should be his wake up call. Likewise, all Bogdan needs to see is them cuddling on the balcony at last week’s party in the Villa. Both those days they did not make love, but it was so obvious they are into each other in a big way. PS: Is there an easier way to translate these posts other than cutting and pasting into Google Translate?

Agreed. I am just trying to get in on the speculating!!

Reasonable guess. Zac coming in for an appearance and cooking. No sightings of N&B yet today?

Sorry if I missed a post ... but where have Nelly and Bogdan been over night?

No sorry I don’t and I agree it has gone down hill. I remember the classic big names like Belushi, Ackroyd, Chevy Chase, Jane Curtain, Will Ferrell, Eddie Murphy ... but those folks are no longer there of course. Today the only one I like is Kate McKinnon ... she’s hilarious.

I know this is an eclectic global village here, but in US on Saturday Night Live, they used to have a series of skits entitled “The Man Who Would Rather Play Video Games Than Have Sex”. This here is not a skit.

Someone suggested earlier that Martina and Alberto made an agreement: No lesbian sex in exchange for no video games. I thought this comment was made in jest ... but lo and behold it’s like 48 hours and counting and so far we have seen neither! This is starting to make me think I want to see Alberto get out the Xbox.

Ever have that fear of missing out feeling when Martina and Nelly are together and you have real life priorities to attend to? Asking for a friend. Or the happy feeling when you check your phone and they are not naked yet? Another way to get an update is to check in here and see everyone talking about addiction and not lesbian sex. Lots to unpack after today's date between Martina and Nelly.

Agreed. Which really makes it easy to screw with us if they wanted to.

When I see this intense discussion that dissects their every little move, I always wonder if the RLC folks try to fuck with us. I can imagine Martina saying to Alberto "I'm going to put my wet panties into this plastic bag ... that will blow their heads off". This is not a criticism of this discussion BTW ... I enjoy it!

I hear you ddhm and don't disagree. But honestly they are acting like a couple with 3 kids ... making love when they can fit it into their busy schedule. But they don't seem to have a very busy schedule. So this is a bit concerning. Nonetheless I can subscribe to your view that it works for them. Key question for me is ... has Martina ever found the passion she has exhibited with Nelly? I am too new to know the answer to that. But if this is a first for Martina, she could very well be re-evaluating everything. But maybe this is her "bi/lesbian side" and it fulfills something she does not get from Alberto and all is OK with that. This is the modern world now, isn't it? But I wonder what else she possibly gets from Alberto? I see very little shared interests, hobbies, etc. Anyway, this is fun. Like I said once before, I agree with everyone!

OK Alberto ... chocolates are a nice opening move ... but this won't get your beautiful Martina turned on like Nelly does. You are going to have to do better my friend.