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Not Masha , it was Martina. It was very nice to see her, Taco and Alberto together for a little while. I hope Martina enjoys her holiday.

He may have had a migraine.

I agree, but has decided that she did not want to jeopardize her school and her leaving RLC. But Alberto and Juliette staying in the apartment has helped to alleviate this problem. I have not heard whether he has finalized his real estate deal .

Please remember that Alberto borrowed money from Martina for his failed business venture and I assume he has repaid all or most of his debt to Martina. Plus he had saved most of the deposit for his new home. That is how he has used his money since he started working as a landscaper. Martina , on the other hand, has been using her money to finish her tourism degree. She has since been also working part time and attending university. Her intent was to have enough money to leave RLC, rent her own apartment, depend on no one, and finish her university degree in tourism. Martina does not take pressure well. They have fought many times in the past when she is unsure of her future. I hope they continue to be good friends (not lovers) and that she continues to talk to Alberto. She has always needed Alberto’s advice over the past 10 years (even before RLC). I think they need each other. I hope that Alberto and Martina will always love each other but not as lovers. Further. I think Taco is a worry for Martina. If Taco is unhappy, then both Martina and Alberto are unhappy. It seems to me that Martina is hoping that Alberto will help look after Taco. But I could be very wrong about that.

I don’t think Martina demanded the bed. I think Alberto and Juliet wanted her to have the bed. Her last few times in that bed.

Until it doesn't. It makes me sad, but it is life.

Sorry but GF4 is NOT married. She is 100 per cent lesbian and she just came back from a 2 week holiday. Today is her birthday and she is having a big birthday party for herself. This information is courtesy of a very reputable translator.

Migraine

We have a very great interpreter who has been essential to our ability to understand Martina and Alberto. We would have never been able to appreciate why the way they are without her and we thank her very much for her interpretations and comments.

Martina is trying to study Buddism and meditation. That is not Mumbo jumbo if it makes her feel good.

So what is your point? I do not understand your point.

Alberto is cutting the grass at B7.

I am glad you stopped watching them but you still have major comments concerning them. I don’t think Martina is selfish but she does do what she wants. Alberto does not object to the way she treats him but I think he objects to the way she treats Taco.

Why are you so surprised that Alberto accepts Martina’s outside girlfriends? Martina does not hide these relationships. On the contrary, why do you think we know so much about this girlfriend? Because Martina tells all of details of her time with this girlfriend to Alberto. Relationships are more than sex for M&A. I think Martina prefers sex with women and not men. But it seems that sex is not enough for Martina to move away from Alberto (quickly).. She has a strong need for her conversations with Alberto. That does not guarantee that they will stay together. But dispite the lack of sex they still do have tender moments. One final point - Why do they still sleep in the same bed together. There seems to be other options available such as the living room sofa or the guest room. Yet they sleep in the same bed. I find this unusual but consistent with everything else about their unusual relationship. This is not a normal husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. But that’s what makes them interesting no matter how much sex they do or do not have. They are realty. They are not interested in giving the forum live sex as some of the apartments, if this is not for you. Don’t watch them anymore.

No. They are both in pain. Whether the other is the cause or their past is the cause.

Darkman Your analysis rambles and is useless. This is a couple in pain. Do not make it more painful.

Hi ddhm You are right. We are in agreement that their relationship has changed. But I still find them interesting. My interest with them is not all about sex. I love watching their interactions. They are getting ready to succeed beyond RLC. Moule has given a very good history which I was mostly already aware of from my PM’s with a wonderful translator. It seems that they will be gone soon anyway. Too bad.

But it’s up to them, not you. If you don’t want to watch them anymore, don’t,

I don’t think that M &A are thinking of getting married. They are not concerned about being monogamous but I believe that they are truthful to each other. Alberto knows about everyone she fucks and she wants Alberto to tell her everything. Although I don’t think that Alberto is sleeping around. When would he do it. But it would be interesting to see Martina’s reaction if Alberto would bring a woman home to sleep over and fuck. I think Alberto’s sole commitment to Martina is one of the reasons she has stayed with him for so long. He is her support system. When she has problems, he is there to listen and help. He knows her better than anyone else and she knows it and appreciates it.

sorry DDHM - they will follow their own scrip, not your script. This is true life and it will end when M&A decide it will end. In the meantime if you don’t like watching Martina’s breasts, watch another apartment. M&A are still special people no matter how much you want them to retire.

I would suggest that you admitting to have flaws summarizes everything that you have said up to date. Return to your psychologist and good luck on your therapy.

Your comments show that you have a hate for Martina. She is definitely not a bad person. As much as you think that she is a terrible person, Alberto is madly in love. She has many, many friends. She has a great smile which we all love. She telegraphs all of her feelings. When she is happy she shows it. When she is mad she shows it. When she is worried she shows it. She is not a devious person. The last reason that your analysis is faulty is that you do not see good things about Martina. Certainly there is something positive that you could say about Martina (without sarcasm)

Hi Moules & Jen One of the details that you left out of your extremely accurate history of M&A is Alberto’s unsuccessful investment. Where Alberto may have gone to school to become a mechanic or cook, he decided (with Martina’s help - she lent him money) to invest in a business. It seems he may have been defrauded or given some very bad information and lost everything plus more. This was traumatic to both of them plus Covid hit. Instead of going to school, he applied to be a gardener. This is a very physical job and entails a significant amount of travel to get to every day. He is tired when he gets home everyday and must wake up early every morning to get to work on time. He is not late for work and does net seem to ever miss work. He seems dedicated to his job. I think Martina appreciates his dedication. I think he owed Martina a significant amount of money and he has repaid her (my assumption). in the meantime Martina has successfully become a travel consultant and now has enrolled in university to get a degree. Martina worked very hard to be successful. She had to get her high school diploma before she could get into the travel industry course. I believe I saw that when Martina needed help for school, Alberto was there to help. Obviously it was Martina’s hard work that got her education but Alberto was there to take care of the other household activities that they shared. And don’t forget RLC and their sex together. M&A have a very different relationship than a typical boyfriend/girlfriend or married relationship. Alberto encourages her to have these lesbian relationships. Nelly, GF4, the English girl and the Brazilian were all done with his knowledge. As long as she did not fuck any men he was not unhappy. She would come back from a fuck night or weekend or holiday and she would tell him every detail. I think as long as she did not get any STD’s he would not stop her from getting her sexual gratification from them as long as she had a little bit of love left for him. You don’t live with someone for over 10 years and not have significant love for each. Their relationship has changed recently. Martina has convinced herself that she is more lesbian than bi-sexual. Yet they still cuddle, hug, kiss and sleep in the same bed. I think Martina likes Alberto’s smell. Alberto is madly in love with Martina. But he wants Martina happy. If that means that Martina becomes a full time lesbian, then so be it. Part of Martina’s long term goal is to be not dependent any anyone which means they must live apart. This has not been happening quickly but will happen. So my last question is for Jen. What is the difference between a “FWB” and a marriage that is a very open relationship? The definition is not clear to me even though you have tried over and over. I don’t think it’s necessary to define their relationship as an FWB. It restricts the description of their relationship. Sorry being so long winded but everyone seems to be in the mood to ezpress their feelings.

RLC does not depend on 1, 2 or 3 couples as the only attraction to this voyeur site.. These couples for whatever reason are dealing with issues their way and no matter how persistent you can be, these couples will do whatever they want to do , not what you want them to do. You are not normally so persistent and unable to understand. Watch the other apartments and don't have a nervous breakdown because these couples won't do what you want them to do, My favorites are Martina and Alberto. They have matured over the past 5 years and eventually they will leave RLC and go on to a happy and successful life, whether together or apart. If you really think about what they do on this site, no couple can do this forever.

It’s not Candela. It’s Elena. Candela was taller and very skinny and hasn’t been around for more than a year. Maybe longer.