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It’s too bad your responses are unintelligible. All you seem capable of of saying’s is calling us insulting names. And all Adalbert was trying to do was telling you that Martina was starting school again tomorrow. You do not need to throw further bad comments for no reason. If we are wrong you can insult us but Martina went to bed early tonight because she needs to get up early tomorrow (for school).

You are quite right. The mention was a "flirtatio!n conversation with another male other than ....". No secret lover. My bad!

As usual Yelt has no proof of the secret male lover. Martina knows if we can hear a secret lover and no such lover exists. Maybe a female lover but that would mean that Yelt heard a female voice that sounded male. Oh, that’s right. Yelt could not have heard anything because he does not have a subscription or a translator connection. Too bad.

Jenn, you have misunderstood me. I am not a hero. I am giving you my opinion. Everyone seems to enjoy pulling my opinion apart. So be it. I get some information from a translator and you think that I am pretending to be God. No . I am not God. Thank God. I do like Alberto and Martina and do what I can to persuade. But if you don’t agree, don’t call me names. Just tell me your opinion. I will tell you mine. End of story.

I reread your frog story. Long story to say that if Alberto is dependent on Martina, he is in trouble and Martina will not care. I do not believe that is true. They are like any couple. If they break up both will be heart broken and if that's the way it must be, it will be for the long term best. But I hope not that will not be the case.

Everytime I translate your comment you say something very weird. You gave us a frog story and I have no idea why. You called them psychpaths and then retracted this statements and then called her a liar, manipulative and toxic person. Where in the world do you get that comment. If she has all of these personality traits, I don't see it. Your definition may mean that everyone in the world lies, manipulates and is toxic including you. Then I will understand the comment. That is why you call yourself Darkman because you are a very "DARK" MAN and a troubled man..

Thank you for your sarcasm. I have tried many ways to tell the forum what I feel, somewhat unsuccessfully to some. FACT - They have been together more than 10 years. Why stay together unless there is something special there. FACT - they fuck a lot. Maybe they could fuck more and longer but couples that have been together for 10 years often slow down their fucking and go for quality rather than quantity. FACT - they are one of the more popular couples on RLC. The way they do that is by changing the things they do and making their life interesting to all of the viewers. FACT - They have evolved over the past 10 years. Alberto has a job and Martina is going to school. If you project out, these are not things that a couple would do if they were going to stay in RLC the rest of their lives. There will be an end to their participation in RLC (this site specializing in sex). FACT - They have acted as a real couple. They fight when they are unhappy and disagree with each other. They make up when they are happy. FACT - They both love her dog. No further explanation necessary. FACT - They have very differing personalities, but it is said that opposites attract. Now that I have babbled for too long, in summary why is it so necessary for some people to trash this couple. Why not just sit back and enjoy their everyday life. No need to call them psychopaths or wimps or putas or whores or any other derogatory words that you have said about them. They are just like us and have feelings. I think they probably read these forums and I hope that they understand what is meant by who says it.

All of your answers are amateurish and childish. I do not write that I am the best. You always talk out of context. Too bad.

You don't deserve an answer. You would not show any respect even if we gave you the most truthful answer that could be given. Too bad . LOL

I am betting the other half of your land that we will never see them split up on RLC. They will leave this RCL site and do bigger and better things with their lives than you could imagine. Do you have a friend, Chema who also has a particular hate on for Martina. You and Chema must be very jealous of her relationship with Alberto and Taco.

If she does it your way, she doesn’t get it very often and must be a quick quickie. Not her style.

Hey GF2 i don’t make up these translations and you admittedly don’t trust the translators anyway. So your comment is that I repeat myself. I hate to tell you but go back to your posts and you will fall asleep with all of your repetitions, repetitions, repetitions, repetitions LOL if you know what I mean, I forgot the !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry.

So, it is time for the defenders of Martina to reappear. We have many psychoanalysts taking a shot at Martina (and Alberto). This couple can do nothing right, and their relationship is absolutely going to fail, and you may be right but not for the reasons that you have commented. Martina and Alberto are a very special couple with their own set of rules. Alberto is much smarter than the forum naysayers want to admit, and Martina takes her discussions with him very seriously and has for some unknown reason to all of the naysayers stayed with him for over 10 years. They have matured together. Alberto is working (thank goodness the ni-ni ers have disappeared) and Martina will be back at school starting this week. Her schedule will now have to match Alberto’s. Probably less partying, but if you have not noticed she has been doing less partying this summer. She has made up for the people who like to fantasize by staying up most of the night with her secret boyfriends (really her brother, Marta (best friend), Elena (best friend), Luis (gay guy) and Dani (the Big Guy). Martina is bi-sexual, and she has had some lesbian affairs in the past year with Alberto’s knowledge and approval. Is this hard to believe and accept? It is only hard to accept if you think that Alberto has been taken advantage of. But they obviously do not see these affairs as affecting their relationship. She comes back after she has been fucked and she tells him all about them. I think these affairs are more physical than true love. Right now, her true love is Alberto. Recently I have seen them cuddling on the couch, watching TV. Why would Martina be doing this unless she really felt something for Alberto. Sex is not the only consideration to have a good relationship. There are so many things that they have in common, and they have a very strong ability to allow their partner leeway in many of the other enjoyments in life that they do not have in common together. In summary there are many people who are jealous of Martina and Alberto. But to call them “psychopathic”, “a brat, conceited, narcissistic”, “cheater”, “pathological”, “sophisticated, sly and self-centered”, and “very effective psychological manipulations” is bullshit. You must look at the people who are doing the name calling to understand their comments. It is my opinion these naysayers are uninformed, misinformed and jealous. They are people who are not subscribers and depend on the other uninformed and misinformed contributors of the forum. They do not know Alberto and Martina’s personal life history and do not talk of their recent accomplishments and goals. And most importantly and sadly they do not trust the translators who have been an invaluable way to know and love Martina and Alberto. Sadly you will probably never get the translations which you need to enjoy the life and success of this couple. In my opinion it will not be long before this couple graduates from RLC and becomes very successful. Martina will be able to write a book called “RLC for Dummies” and we will all be stars in it.

You're so tough!!

I have been told that the "slap and dash and the shag me boots" were for Alberto. They are enjoying a mini-holiday in upper Barcelona, Alberto has tomorrow off and they decided to get away for a day. Please wish them a wonderful short holiday.

Not surprising. You went right back to the attack. We live in the same Box 24/7 with a PC screen and internet. Good luck.

My mistake, I have never seen "Intervention". Must find it.

She has a Dad who is dying of cancer so that analogy is not good. Sorry I cannot convince you that Yelt has more bad information/questions/comments than good. As I have repeated often, he needs a subscription and a translator. That will help him significantly. I believe you may have cancelled your subscription but I may be wrong. And it would be nice if you found a translator that you believe. Many people do not believe the translators and that's why the translators no longer translate. It's too bad because the forum would understand Alberto and Martina more not only in the present but also from their pasts. I will continue to defend them as long as I see rude and uncalled for remarks. And you will continue to appreciate/read/dislike my remarks whether you like them or not.

They are both leeches. They both do things for each other. Every once in a while he kisses her and then every once in a while she kisses him. You do not watch enough of them to really "know" them. You have a bit of a crude point of view but I guess you expect that kind of feedback from us.

I think that they may be having fun. Have a great time, Martina & Alberto, maybe!!

What television series are you talking about? The one where women are always superior to men. Well, I do not believe in male or female superiority. It is all in the words that are written and I do not see any superiority in your words, only words that degrade yourself whether you were male or female. For all we know you could be a male hiding behind a female persona. Either way you do not express yourself well. No LOL (somehow this means something to you)

You have called me cruel about the soft-spoken Yelt. We must be reading different comments. I can repeat at least a dozen negatives and I do not see why you have missed them. Please reread his message and if you do not see that his tone is obvious, I will continue this conversation later. Please tell him to get a subscription rather than the second hand distorted information that he continually uses.

That's the way life is. Wait & see. But you are a speculator, So what are you talking about?

Hi Yelt Every moment of our life is the beginning of the end. You need to get a subscription to follow these two better. And for sure the help of a translator would be invaluable. It's too bad your questions are so negative and show your unhappiness with life. You should go to a psychiatyrist to find your answers. Good luck and as GF2 says LOL (whatever that means in her vernacular)

So LOL does not mean "Lots of Love". It's you, sticking your tongue out. Nice way to express yourself to the forum>