Deepdave

You're right. They should ignore us and let us fight amongst ourselves. The bullshitters are called bullshitters. The liars are called liars. The story tellers are identified and called out. And we all give our opinion, as long as we identify our opinion as an opinion and not as something you cannot have translated because you don't know their language. And you should trust the translators because they are as close to the truth as we are going to get.

I have said that it looks like Martina wants to be Nelly's friend. And when they are not drunk they are able to have this friendship. But their meetings sometimes turn to drinking and smoking. And when the drinking and smoking went too far, the other night happened. That is not love. And now perhaps Martina is upset about what happened. And this has created so much conversation in the forum. And we know that the forum can be very aggressive with all sorts of madeup stories and theories and opinions and calling each other names. And we know that this affects Martina and Alberto. Perhaps we should stop.

My opinion is slightly different than yours. Bogdan is her true love and Martina is her forbidden love. The more Nelly can not have Martina, the more she wants her. Martina has tried friendship as an alternative. But Nelly is persistent and Martina must be careful.

Nobody works harder at her studies than Martina.

DDHM - You are missing one important factor here. This is a sex site and they are not only trying to live a normal world they must also be entertainers. Every action that they make is under the scrutiny of everyone watching the RCL site. They have to make things interesting for us or RCL will not continue their contract and for whatever benefits they get will be gone. The fact that Alberto was playing video games in the living room and Martina was fucking another women in the other room (only happened once) has created so much forum chatter, has made them one of the most popular couples in RLC. That is the missing part of your understanding. It has to be this way. There are many couples in the world that have these affairs behind each others backs. Martina and Alberto happen to openly talk about this affair. They still love and respect each other. They still carry on the rest of their lives as they wish. Alberto accepts that Martina has outside friends who she parties with. Alberto may have the same situation when he is off biking. But they still fuck together and seem to enjoy this fucking. Martina is getting an education that will take her out of RCL evetually. Martina knows that Alberto is helping her achieve this education. They know that together they are better or this relationship would have dissolved a long time ago.

Blackie is the best!!

Hi Girlsfun2: You are unstoppable. Please dream for yourself. Please do not dream for Martina, Alberto, Taco, Blackie and the fish. They will live their lives as they want, not as you want.

Tell me Girlsfun2, if were so drunk and drugged that you were incoherent would you still enjoy getting fucked? Maybe you would be fucked without your approval. In a parking lot? How romantic. NOT! Do you really think Martina enjoyed her fuck or was it possible that she was seduced and raped by Nelly. I feel very strongly that this was the case. Martina did not stay around for a second round of what you might call passionate love. She barely made it home in a taxi according to the translator.

There is some serious psychoanalyzing going on in this forum. Mostly very valid. But the problem is all marriages and relationships run the same consequences and counter-consequences. Martina and Alberto are not a special case. They are more normal than many of us. Martina and Alberto have many things going for them. They are very tolerant, respectful and trust each other. Because this is a sex site, there is a higher interest in sex by the readers. But a couple that has been together for over 10 years faces the same sex issues that any couple of 10 years together has. How do you keep things interesting? So, she masturbates and maybe he masturbates too. Luckily, they realize that sex is not everything. Martina is going to school, and she takes her school very seriously. And her marks are very good. Alberto supports her 100%. If Covid had not hit their goals may have been very different. They have much more in common than many of the criticizers realize and the list has been provided many times previously. Regarding Nelly and Martina, their friendship still exists because of the approval of both Bogdan and Alberto. But then Nelly pushes this friendship beyond their partners approval by getting Martina drunk and drugged with her. Then it goes beyond friendship because Nelly is able to seduce Martina. By the transcript that was related by Martina to Alberto it is clear that Martina was almost incoherent. She did not know initially whether she was fucked or not. I believe that Nelly may have raped Martina. No one has considered this possibility in this forum. Martina was taken out to a parking lot, kissed, and fucked. If this had been a loving situation she would not have abruptly left in a taxi and went directly home to Alberto to tell him everything that she could tell him in her drunken state and in a manner that the whole forum would eventually know. Martina, I believe, regrets what happened and has been reliving it every day since. There have been many terrible things said about Martina and Alberto in the past week. I hope they realize that we are all fictitious friends with no hope of really affecting their lives. We can only give our opinion and then crawl back into our computer. Martina and Alberto are not given an opportunity to respond to our rants and raves. We must depend on their translators. They are the closest that we have to reality. But when a translator goes off and gives an opinion and then make it sound like a translation, that is totally wrong. It is the same as non-translators going off and giving an opinion and then making it sound like they have an actual translation, that is also totally wrong. Non-translators cannot understand Valencian. I will continue to support Martina and Alberto as a couple with unlimited possibilities ahead for them. They are both very smart. The best thing for them to do is ignore us and go on with life as it suits them together.

What does the Sioux Indians have to do with my comment?

Hi Darkman It is very difficult to tell the difference between what you are hearing from Martina and Alberto's conversation and what is your opinion. The accuracy of your translations is very important to understand what is going on. If you can make sure that you identify the translations and identify your opinion separately it would be very useful. Thanks.

I also wish you all the best.

Are you saying that only Democrats who get the shot will get Covid? And Republicans who didn't get the shot will never get Covid, It's a good thing that Covid knows what political party you belong to. May you, your family and your friends never get Covid, despite your stupidity.

I think Martina sees Alberto's potential. They are both very intelligent. They enjoy politics, documentaries, reading, the news, the wheel of fortune game show and weird old movies together. They absolutely adore their dogs. Martina has a lot of business ideas and she bounces them off Alberto. They may be planning a travel type business together. But this will not happen until she is finished school. They have a great deal of respect for each other. When Martina has school the next day and needs her sleep, Alberto will sleep on the couch in order not to disturb her. They share household responsibilities together - cleaning, cooking, walking the dogs, washing the dishes, washing he clothes and making the bed. It seems that their money is shared. They do not spend a lot of money on clothes and do not have an extravagant apartment with fancy furniture. They have a very simple life. They have a very difficult job which is performing in front of a demanding audience and act as if there is no one watching. But as I have mentioned before many times, they enjoy talking to each other. When they get mad at each other, they find a way to get over it . And by the way they enjoy sex with each other. They may ultimately breakup but I hope not.

What is the purpose for telling this story? Maybe you are still sick and hallucinating. Get well, sir. But don't continue to post false stories.

JMAN9212 and YELT should not contribute to this forum any further. Rather than blowing up the board they should blow up themselves. The fact that the both of them have been telling garbage stories over the past year that have always proven to be untrue is enough for me to ignore them. Your stories are hurtful to Martina and Alberto. Further, the Spanish translators also tell you that your stories are unproven and untrue. You should wish them to have a happy and successful life together.

I agree. It is nonsense. It is desperate. And it is not funny.

Masha is going for the world record. Does anyone know what the world record is for fucking?

Alberto and Martina are horny as hell. I have not timed it but it felt like they had fuckied for over an hour. I was exhausted just watching them. This will be a replay eligible for an Oscar. Thanks Martina and Alberto. Your love for each other continues strong. And now they are snuggling.

Not to question your integrity and honesty and motive, but there are so many possible alternate explanations for this conversation including not translatiung the conversation properly or not taking the conversation in context. Before making a comment regarding how embarrassed you were, I would suggest that if one of the interpretors think that this conversation was sufficiently important, I would wait for their interpretation before I would condemn Alberto and call him names for all the terrible things he has done to Martina. I believe that this is the life that Martina and Alberto have decided to live. Martina has many advantages of living with Alberto including having the freedom that she prefers and at the same time loving him for who he is.

The problem with the anti-vaxer and "no mask" attitude is that it is very political. They justify their position by saying that they must have their freedom. The problem is that their freedom is only successful if they don't die of Covid. It will be too late to admit you are wrong if you are dead. There are a significantly greater number of anti-vaxers and "no maskers' getting sick and/or dying than vaxers and maskers. And if you look in terms of percentages of people getting sick who are non-vaxed versus people who are vaxed, it's scary. I still say to those people who are not vaxed, I truly hope you never get sick and die.

So I think what you saying is that Martina gives her love to special people. Not just anyone. And she is very particular. And she has to trust them as well. This trust is as important as the sex.

But Nelly is a girl with problems and she doesn't listen to Martina. Martina definitely likes her but not at any cost. She will not allow Nelly to break her commitment to Bogdan to stop their affair. There is no doubt that Nelly would screw up Martina's school efforts. Nelly wants what Nelly wants without regard to Martina's wishes and goals. Martina has shown that she can defend herself against Nelly and that will keep Martina safe. Martina does not need Nelly as a lover. She has her faithful partner, Alberto and their dogs to love.

This is only the hundredth time that this story has been told. There are many things that people can do together or not together in a 3 hour time period. If there was other indications of something other than a friendship then it might be believable. Otherwise Bogdan is a closed book. Please leave him alone to live peacefully with his wife. Nelly.

Maybe this was Martina's way of emphasizing to all of us is that this is what she sometimes loves to do. To go out partying all night every once in a while. She loves to dance and sing and drink with her friends (specifically her gay male friend and other girls). Not with fake Michael or Nelly. If there was an inconspicuous way to do it, she has found it. She has talked to us without talking.