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In Leora's second apartment, there was a balcony off of the room with the futon, where Leora used to entertain us when not in the living room.

I still have my video of Leora's female visitor. I can describe her in minute detail and what she was wearing. I have already given the date and I can also provide the time stamp if anyone is interested.

None of the apartments had cams on the balcony then. We just assumed Leora was exposing herself to someone because she would stop her performance (as if to watch someone's reaction), and then proceed while grinning as though someone was encouraging her to continue.

While I was looking back through my archives, I found one of the dates that Leora and Malia danced together and embraced briefly when Leora was in the second apartment. I was on Halloween, October 31, 2016. Both Leora and Malia wore Halloween face makeup. Malia had on a very short skirt, that kept riding up and she kept pulling down. Leora wore a thin body suite with no bra or panties. It was almost transparent on the infra red camera. As they danced seductively, they embraced and did a pelvic grind on each other for a brief moment. Malia later did a fanning gesture as if to say "things are getting hot".

I never saw Paul as anything more than a human dildo that Leora used from time to time.

What was remarkable to me about the visit from the females other than her attire, came from my observations of Leora's dog's behavior. I noticed that on many occasions when Leora was bating and about to come, the dog would often start barking non stop. Well, he did the same thing while Leora and the woman were on the balcony. Just a coincidence I'm sure.

The female visiter that I saw with Leora was on Valentines day, 2017. Leora wore small white panties with her cheeks out...booty panties, and a red crop top...the kind that exposes her under boobs when she lifts her arms.

I missed that session but I have a still of the woman she greeted in her lingerie. I could give you a timeframe if you think it could be the same woman.

Leora has an older woman friend that she does Skype with sometimes. I often wonder if this is the same older woman who visited Leora once when she was in her second apartment? The woman was on camera for just a moment. Leora greeted her wearing lingerie and they spent the entire visit off camera on the balcony.

The only time that I have ever seen RLC do an apartment or camera upgrade it was when the tenants requested/demanded it. Sometimes those demands seemed to come from forum member complaints.

I notice now that someone in the adjacent building with a good pair of lenses could have had a good view of Leora's bate. With the curtains back and the windows recently cleaned, only the leaves of the citrus plan posed a barrier to the determined voyeur. Maybe there is someone there with the right equipment and an interest in viewing her from afar.

I totally agree.

I don't recall that I ever made a demand or even a request for a transcript. I simply suggested that if they were to be identified as translations, then a quotation every now and then was not too much to ask for. Otherwise, they should be viewed as interpreters...wherein a simple summary of what Martina SAID to Alberto and what he SAID to her would be sufficient. But that is not what I have seen is it? And, that is why I have not seen any value in whatever the back channel information that some are receiving from these sources. I have been watching long enough to eventually figure out is happening without so called "translators" and I guess I will have to continue to do that since I am not on the DM list.

Whenever RLC participants perform on camera it's because they want you to see and hear it. This is especially true when they get right in front of the camera. And when they don't perform on camera, they don't want you to know and they have to be ok with the speculations.

Again, I have to find an exception to a persuasive argument. I don't agree that "we need to be nice to the translators". I think we should be nice to each other but the translators don't get a special carve out in my estimation. Many of us give our analysis and opinions and it takes the same effort that it should take for someone who understands Martina's language. I think what we may have is people who have the same motivations as others on this forum, who for some reason want their bi-lingual capability to be privileged. I appreciate a translation in the same way I would appreciate someone filling me in on what happened in a scene that I missed while away...or giving me the clock time so I can look it up on replay.

It seems there is more speculation about Martina's off camera exploits that go beyond Nelly. Apparently there is private conversation about Martina with a guy? I've personally been waiting for a continuation of the story line about the Big Guy. Many on the forum seem to want to discount him as a possible player for some reason even though the evidence shows him to be the only other person to have actual physical contact with Martina on camera. Some people want to claim that their contact was not intimate but I know what I saw, and I know that they never repeated the behavior in front of Alberto. I also know that no man would allow that kind of contact with their woman unless they were just into watching. They either have got to bring the Big Guy back or kill him off, but that script has got to be resolved in some way.

Got it !

Speaking of Malia, I wonder if anyone has an update about her? I see that Leora is still wearing the matching bracelet that she and Malia shared. I always felt they were doing more off camera than on camera. There positions were too staged and the timing was too cued to the music they would play during their sessions, which gave the appearance of having been practiced before hand. I went back and watched them together in the Russia apartment and there was more affection when they were fully clothed back then than later in this apartment. But, we will never know.

Whenever I see Leora tasting pussy juice, I can't help but think how she must be missing Malia.

Again I agree with you except regarding Bogdan and Nelly. I don't think there is any basis for comparing their situation with Martina and Alberto. Nelly had relationships with at least two women that I saw when they were in Russia. She also had a three-way with Masha and another woman on camera. Although she slept naked with a woman on camera in Russia, it was always under the covers. Nelly was developing a new relationship with a woman on camera just when the Russian apartments went off line or we may have seen her do more on camera than kiss and feel tits. On the other hand, Martina has never shown an on-line history with a woman before Martina which makes the comparison off balanced in my opinion.

I agree with everything that you have said. However, my issue has always been a simple preference to have the words translated into English with quotation marks around them. I would rather decide the meaning of those words for myself rather than to have them "interpreted" for me by someone else. Bye the way, the Spanish language is not all that difficult to translate if you have the right dialect dialed in. I tried a translation app at one time that was fairly accurate when it could understand the conversation. But I discarded it because it could only hear a few words out of an entire conversation...the juice just was not worth the squeeze.

I'm glad that she is finally waking up...I was getting worried.

Whatever may have happened seemed to have taken all of Martina's energy. She still has not recovered and continues to sleep away the day after the night. I hope whatever she was on is not still lingering. She was unsteady on her feet for a while and got on the floor a lot so as not to loose her balance it seems. She should stick to alcohol, since it leaves a hangover sometimes but at least you can get back to normal rather quickly.

Looks like we still are struggling with understanding the difference between a translator and an interpreter. I won't criticize those who don't have the strength to defend their assertions in a public way. It speaks to their level of confidence if it won't stand up to simple questions. It is interesting that they are still sharing their information with some but not others...those who won't ask further questions I guess.

Maybe someone will give us an interpretation of the spat?