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I don't look at it that way, harley. It just isn't working the way we hoped it would.

And there may not be a Season 3. I think unless I see more, Season 2 may be it for me. I will look at other voyeur sites. If I find a good one, I will let CC know so that maybe we can start a new forum. I am not optimistic. Maybe soon it is time for just real life. I love CC and the chat and all you guys and girls. I would like to stay here even without rlc, but we will see. Maybe soon I will be busier with writing and with my attorney adviser volunteer job for my City Councilman.

Harley, it is exceedingly hard for me to say this stuff about Kami and Kristy who are my favorites ever, but it is apparent that we will never have the special moments of Barcelona again with K & K. I treasure that always in my memory banks. I almost felt when they first came back that they would never approach the heights of Barcelona. Unfortunately I was right. The girls are hardly around together anymore.

You have no chance. Now the question is do the viewers actually have much of a chance to actually see them both together again ever?

So one of the girls feel they have an obligation to show up there once in a while. Woohoo!

Thes, I agree with your assessment of Kami & Kristy. We knew that when they were in their home environment that things would be different for them. They have friends, bf's, families nearby. But we couldn't imagine how different. They do their own things now. Problem is that they have a commitment to rlc. But they don't seem to take that as a commitment. They were so popular from Barcelona and rlc was so desperate that they brought them back in the best apartment and probably agreed that they could basically do whatever they want, show as little as they wanted. Now, they have showed some stuff, nice baths, nudity, a couple of bates not under the cover of a restroom or covers, one fuck. My question is will they stay committed to rlc and the apartment or just use it as a way station. It seems we got "real life" with mostly teases and hiding. I wouldn't mind so much if they had more parties and friends over like the angels. But we dont even get that. My belief is that the apartment will not be theirs for more than a year at most (they probably have year contracts). And that we will see less and less of them as they see their bf's more. That night in Barcelona when they slept in each other's arms and left in the morning, the most difficult night in rlc history in my view, and the most heart wrenching, may turn out to have been the peak of their times together. It will never approach that again. RLC is going downhill. Will they find a way to avoid falling further? I do not know. But they will have to come up with a hail mary pass. Aaron Rodgers of the Green Bay Packers did it twice last year, so who knows? I myself will give them a little longer.

Harley, as you can see I mostly agree with you. This is a sex voyeur site. The participants know this.

It is quasi-porn by the way. There have been many, many sex acts including anal and three way (Nina/Kira and friend). And it isn't real life either. Only real life is if we have a hidden camera and watch them live their lives and that is illegal and unethical. They mostly are exhibitionists and they are aware of the cameras and do play to them at times. Some are basically doing shows. Leora's bate, Masha and Sasha, Nelly & Bogdan, Efim and gf, Suzan and Hector. Masha and Leora would set up perfectly for the cameras when they bated. Kami and Kristy play up to the cameras too. So does Elisa. The difference is that K & K basically have admitted they will not show us anything (except Kami later did). And Rita will never show us anything. Obviously, this is not real life. In real life, people do not have sex or bate under covers, do not have it outside the apartments all the time. The truth? Those participants refuse to be exhibitionists in certain situations. They don't buy into the idea of true voyeur site. In a true voyeur sex site, the participants have the sex before the cameras. Otherwise, why are they here? Free rent? Food money? Possible bonuses? This is entertainment this site. It is just that some refuse to provide some of it. And no one is saying they must have sex. Just that if they have it, they shouldn't hide it. That is when it becomes a tease. Like I wouldn't expect a virgin to have sex. But someone with a bf who just doesn't bring him over or they have their sex in his apt. are honestly just ripping off their customers. This isn't a non-sex site. Kami was heard saying early on that she would never have it there of course. Why, because you have the right to withhold what you normally do? How is that a true voyeur experience? Are they really doing what they normally do? That is my take on rlc. Still worth me staying here.... for now.

Good post Harley. Of course you are relying a lot on what we say,but it is not a bad analysis. What we should say is that RLC has exhibitionists that are very open down to hiding. We do have a lot of choices, but it is not true real life. If the participants are all true exhibitionists then it is more show, and if they hide and tease then it is not real when they are having sex and bating just outside of the cameras. Personally, I want to see more shown but not full exhibitionism. What is the magic point? Who knows? Kami is more likely to show us more than Kristy who honestly is much more conservative than people think. And Elisa will show us much more than Vika or Rita. Right now, RLC has become very boring honestly. And then banning the subscribers is not smart business. RLC needs to spice things up. But, how do they do it?

True.

So is it obvious by now that Kami is sick? She looks sick, is sipping tea, looks like sucking candies. And she isn't pregnant! Kristy stayed at ex's I guess.

I see her pal.

She grow her pubes again? Lol!

Dont think so harley. She is jus sick.

She isn't pregnant!!!!! She is sick. held her trhroat, eyes watering , nose sniffing.

Funny, Harley, possible. But I think she is sick has a virus. She took her temperature. She can always have coke boy, he is available any time!

She has a virus.

That doesn't surprise me. Who wouldn't?

Not grunge, clean shaven, but longish hair. Slick guy, could probably talk any girl out of her pants.

Kristy with a bf?

That is a reasoned post, Mr. Box. Interestingly, if everyone just joins CC they can see things in the Attachments Center. I still think RLC could just do a surcharge or the replay service.

Mr. Box, yes we do violate their copyright (well, I don't since I don't record or post pics). But, it is not helping RLC to go after their subscribers. There is a simple solution for RLC. Use the Apple ITunes model. Years back when ITunes was young, they used to use DRM licensing to keep people from listening to their music even on more than one device of the same owner. What Apple did was to add a surcharge to every song and to remove the DRM obstacle from downloading music or transferring music. It was a brilliant business move. Now, people do not have to worry about a problem with transferring music or downloading on more than one device. And Apple made, and still makes a lot of money! All RLC needs to do is to add a surcharge per month to subscribers and allow people to post pics or videos. They could even negotiate with groups like CC, RLCFAN and others. Another alternative is for rlc to come up with a replay service ala Voyeur Villa. The service would cost so much a month. Then we don't even need to post. The third thing is that we do have one solution that is available now. That is that non-freebies can post to our attachment center. But only CC subscribers can see them. People, it is only $12 a year to be a member here at CC! And it is easy to join here. Then you can see whatever is posted to the Attachment Center. I may contact RLC and make the above two suggestions to them. I can make them a lot of money and keep us all happy. I understand business and can write a business letter. Let's stop eating ourselves up over this issue and try to get the situation to change if possible. In other words, be positive not negative. Don't quit rlc over this just yet!

There is absolutely no sense to rlc going after its subscribers, its premium members. Kill the goose that laid the golden egg! I want to stay, but I already quit one voyeur site, VV. I can quit another! I am not planning on leaving and I may write them a letter asking them to be smart business people and do the Napster model. Charge a bit for the pic posting and let us do it. I mean we are stealing their copywrited stream when we post pics after all.

I have been on just one year and actively posting only since September last year! I am probably most prolific poster other than maybe mikey and you.

Come on Harley just a 100 in a night. Can't be that hard?