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Look forward to you here if you decide to come back, tallguy. And I agree, miscvoyeur, Christy is off limits now until the guy comes except for Petra. Well anyway guys are gone tomorrow.

Thanks, tallguy. Maybe you should come back if you can afford it. It has to be hard not to see much. I know right now it is dull, but I have the feeling within a week or so things will be cooking again. VV has to stop changing so much so fast. As for natasha, I don't know who she is to them, but they sure dote on her. And it is funny, but sometimes the coldest bitches are the hottest in bed! So, I can just imagine the right guy what Natasha would do to him!

WTF, Christy in her bed and new guys (not laptop guy) talking to her? She actually adjusted to those two but no sexual attraction there. Maybe she is just in a good mood knowing a friend is joining her in Tver soon.

And you know, I prefer Christy's emotions to Julia and Gavin's seeming lack of emotions. The only emotion they seem to show is happiness. Not such a bad thing, eh? But I can't read people like that. Easier to read emotions than none.

Spielo, that's true, we don't know who it will be. What I used to notice is that Christy used to video chat with probably a guy on her phone a lot, and I seem to think it was before Ivo's friend came back for that night with her in Voro. Of course she did have that other night with him in Tver before that, so who knows? And Christy crying? She seems to do that like every day over something so who knows? The thing that I like about her is also confounding to us, her emotionalism.

Tallguy, I always like your posts. I agree with what you say in total. I don't know what it is with Natasha. They are very protective of her like she is someone's younger sister. That could explain things. Hopefully once guys are gone and Christy moves out, they will find a good guy for Natasha. And I agree that once less people are in Voro, Julia and Gavin should go back to their normally sexy selves. You know, I don't know if you are or have been on RLC like I am, but the Natasha situation almost reminds me of what happens with Zoya and lev when their "guest" stays there, who I think is Lev's sister. Lev clings to her to the extent he neglects his girlfriend Zoya. In this case, Julia and Gavin put a cocoon around Natasha to the extent that they neglect their love life and needs. Similar. And we suffer while they do that. The girl is clearly an adult, why don't they let her fly a little?

Yadevol, nothing exciting happened tonight, except for one big development. Vv tweeted that the new guys will be leaving tomorrow and that Christy will be moving to Tver to await her friend. If true, that is good news! But no sex, a little games, coffee klatch in Julia's room still active though the guys are in the living room in Voro. Tomorrow may be more interesting.

Having fun at Tver even with 2 of the new guys (Christy went back to Voro). Love Petra, she is fun and tries to help everyone fit in. I have almost never found anything bad about her. Meanwhile back at Voro, slight improvement, Christy has been included in the coffee klatch and they play with nail paint! Exciting! As least laptop guy not bothering everyone.

Thanks, timewarp. And we don't have to worry about facts, there are really just opinions here. Who really knows what's fact here. We don't even speak Russian for godsake, how do we know what is really going on? your opinion is as good as mine.

They were there earlier? Great! I am glad to see them still together. I think the reason I thought that was that someone said he saw Akira angrily tear up the contract. And he did look angry when he was packing that day. I think the "forced out " thing is just a semantical difference. I mean that VV asked him to do something in the contract which he didn't want to do because he cares for Charlie so he left for her. Of course, he left voluntarily. I never thought they actually kicked him out. I do think he saw the handwriting on the wall though. So, don't get me wrong. I think it is actually an admirable thing for Akira to do for Charlie, almost chivalrous. Too often in these apartments, we see people who don't really give a crap for each other, dog eat dog. Was wonderful to see a real relationship on the site for once!

Agreed, timewarp about the guys. And let's bury the hatchet about our differences. I understand you a little more now and accept that. I am just a little different than you with my approach to sex on this site and maybe in general. It doesn't make my way better! Let's embrace our differences and treat each other with dignity and respect. Differences make for the spice of life, so embrace them! I know what set me off yesterday and I thought I would tell you what is was so you'll understand me. You sort of sarcastically said something about having a wife and spending time with her from like 5:30 to 11 pm . (implication, not like me!). I did resent that statement because you don't know me and can't accept that I am different from you. Maybe actually you were being moralistic with me there. That is why I reacted the way I did. And I see nothing wrong with fantasies as long as you don't actually do them and don't hurt people in real life. So my fantasies may bother you but I am allowed to have them if I want. So can you. I am a good person and I am sure you are also. One other thing, please don't sort of bully me into changing myself, i resent that and it won't work. I may have problems, but they are my problems. People like unsichtbarer, cassy, sat11, beancouter, tallguy and others accept me for the way I am and when they want to give me advice I listen to them because they speak positively to me and don't judge me. And I do the same for them. I will always listen to differing ideas about things. I may not agree but i accept them and may even change my opinion. Cassy just reminded me of the incident in Tver with Tanya being tied up. I suddenly felt bad because i realized I had sacrificed some of the strong moral conscience I have in real life to adjust to the craziness of VV. I listened to her because she respects my opinions and I respect what she says as well. Maybe I will even change my attitude a bit. I always talk too damned much to say what I want to say, sorry. Let's be "friends" henceforth. I am trying to be better and to accumulate "friends" here rather than enemies, which I have also been collecting, it seems.

Oh, cassy, I remember well that tying up of Tanya in Tver. That was abusive! Knowing how bad she wanted Akira, they took advantage of her desire and basically mocked her and made her into a slave. And like unsichtbarer, I will watch Christy even after she moves, although I am not a big fan of Tver either. And you know, your reminding me of the Tanya incident made me realize that maybe after all of the problems and disappoinments of that time with Dizi, Tanya and Phil, that I adjusted to a harsher dog eat dog type of mentality with regard to watching VV. Maybe I somewhat sacrificed my conscience a little bit in order to deal with the VV changes. I need perhaps to listen to my conscience some more in the future while watching. It is ok to have a voyeur sex site, but the people must be treated with respect and dignity. That means if people are ok with things that's good, but don't abuse people or mock them. I was just reminded today also by spielo of the fact that we lost Akira because they kind of forced him to have sex with Natasha who now hardly seems worth it. I hope it didn't kill his relationship with Charlie who I always loved.

Yeah, strangely Christy has become my favorite also. After her being such a prima donna and all the drama with Nastya and Messa, she is the most expressive, feeling person on VV. A real person. I kind of associate with her passion. And she is sexy as hell!

Sat11, you are right about the tweet, just wishful thinking I guess. And the moving around, who knows how that works out. I am bad with expectations, sat11. Sometimes, I swear I am like a little kid who gets excited about something and then disappointed. Like I said to unsichtbarer, I wish I was a calmer person without so much passion or at least tempered. That's why I go up and down so much almost like I was schizoid. You guys calm me down, bring me back to earth.

Nack, that is weird about that response. It seems to contradict the tweet they put up within the past half hour about the new guys leaving tomorrow. That is a worrying contradiction,which is why I asked you about it. Yours seems to say that they are still trying them out, the tweet seems to say they are gone tomorrow! Now, they probably will have a Friday party tomorrow, but who will be there? Are the new guys gone tomorrow or not? if anyone can shed some light on this, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to celebrate just yet. It's almost like the american football referees are instant replay reviewing the last second touchdown and we may lose yet if the call is overturned!

And you are, Cassy, you are. You are exceedingly respectful and polite in your posts even when people throw things at you. I really admire you and Unsichtbarer for doing that always. I wish I was more like that. I tend to let people get my goat too easy. Also, I am a very protective person, not just for myself but for others as well, so I am a lightning rod. If a person I like is attacked, I will defend them like I would myself. I am like that as a husband and father as well. Maybe a bit too macho at times. Like I always say, better to know yourself than not. Then you just have to do something about it (not easy).

What do you mean, Nack, about fun tomorrow? VV's latest tweet says new guys will be gone tomorrow. You mean their weekly Friday party? or does it mean Christy's friend will be coming tomorrow? I thought I heard after the 25th when he has some exams.

Don't mind snaky, he is always negative!

You know I did say that maybe VV was killing time closer to when Christy's friend would arrive back. And they did seem to be trying a hail mary pass to try to spice things up, get a partner for Natasha, etc. They did kill time alright and also our last nerves!

Oh, I see the new tweet from VV, guys. So maybe us guys were not crazy or wrong for thinking that they should get rid of the new guys and move Christy to Tver. And great to hear that Christy's new friend is definitely coming to her. I am happy for her. This is the best news in many days. Of course, next they have to work on Voro again. The coffee klatch will have free range there now. Use it for good and not for evil, lol! But seriously, they have to find someone for natasha so she leaves the couple alone a bit.

Cassy, that's fantastic news! How did you find out? Did VV tweet you or did you overhear someone talk in Russian? I have been complaining for days to VV about this. Maybe they finally heard us? Strangely, with all of VV's faults, they do eventually hear our complaints and do respond. I have never seen a site where you can actually have a positive impact. If that is true, I give VV credit for listening to its customers, though very slowly.

I haven't gotten around much internationally except for Israel, Mexico, Canada and the caribbean. Love Caribbean islands. Would like to go Europe some day if things are more safe. My married daughter is going to Spain and Barcelona next May. I want to stow away in their luggage! Yeah, you should come to NYC sometime, its a fascinating city, very diverse. Oh and one of my sons went to Europe a couple of times through the People to People program and actually stayed with a bavarian family on a home stay for a few days a few years ago. Now he is in college going into politics! Maybe when you and I are gone one day, he will be the President of the US, lol! Oh, cassy, love that post to unsichtbarer! Yeah, he's hardly "invisible"!

Oops, my bad, unsichtbarer. And thanks for the advice. Sometimes it is my own fault because I make myself a lightning rod! Sat11, I also like your comments. I love the last post with the three hours, two hours. You forgot one hour, lol! And wow, isn't Voro exciting, sat11? Like watching the fish channel! I just love watching the tres amigos(amigas) just lying in bed all evening on their phones. And I have no use at all for laptop guy. But, it's ok, I'm sure VV must be thrilled that they just lie in their bed all day just on their phones in their coffee klatch! VV is getting real boring now. Tver is actually more exciting. Do you know who i like to watch now, sat11? I actually watch Christy a lot and especially her interactions with Petra. Christy may be a prima donna, but she shows real human emotions, she gets upset, laughs, cries, has a passion (I can associate with that). Natasha leaves me cold, Julia and Gavin show little emotion or excitement.

BTW, Kraut, that's funny about sauerkraut! I actually don't eat it much. My wife likes it. I just eat my hot dogs with mustard. I can't stand people who eat dogs with ketchup (one of my grown sons). Just kidding! How many hours are you ahead of the eastern seaboard of the US? I am from New York City. For me it is now 1 pm.

Hey, Kraut! You sure it's ok if I call you that? You're a good guy. I always appreciated your basic calm but rational nature. I am not as calm a person as you, I think. I am passionate and try to be funny with my comments and not just angry. I was going to ask you what unsichtbarer means in German. You and cassy and tallguy and several others are good people and I enjoy all the comments you all make. I like that everyone is different here and brings a different approach to life to this forum. You are not judgmental and I appreciate that. I also do like to learn about other cultures and countries and so it is nice to know a German.