mr1010

Just saw video of Messa/Christy sex today. He lasted longer, but she didn't even want him touching her breasts or fingering her and she needed the sex but could barely tolerate him doing it. Kind of distasteful to watch. They hardly talk to each other, sleep separate and at different times. Sex is basically forced and mandatory but not happy at all. Hard to watch. He cums on her butt and she can't wait to get up and clean up. No cuddling after sex or before. She basically just got into doggy position, told him to just put it in. I'm not even sure she was very moist for sex. It is almost like a loveless marriage where the couple have sex almost to get it out of the way each night. At least in Tver, the people want to have sex with the others whether for show or not. Sonia and Ivo just fucked at 5 am not for the cameras but for themselves. Sonia and Petra do like each other. Akira and Charlie of course have great sex and are affectionate. BTW, a big sign of a couple that doesn't like each other, they had sex but never even faced each other or kissed. Sad.

Never mind. They're going to sleep.

Now couple in bedroom are going at it. If guy is not too drunk.

Nah, doesn't look like it. The girl on the couch was hot. Other frequent couple guests are in bedroom, but falling asleep. They have fucked on the couch before.

I think so, the time she was over in Tver. She also fucked Christy with the dildo. Christy now likes that, did it to herself yesterday.

Sonia and Ivo fucking at 5 am now. Sonia a little more assertive in sex, she is on top got the sex going now. Hard to see though in the dark. Still, wish Sonia liked to suck cock too. Christy is good at sucking cock. Did you see her suck the dildo yesterday? Really hot. She is much more imaginative in sex than Sonia. They need a strong partner for Christy sexually.

Ain't that the truth, Timewarp? And you're right, the political discourse on Facebook is relentlessly negative. That's why I call it the "evil" side of Facebook. I think I sense that you like myself are on the liberal side of things in general. I wouldn't want to know where most of the people on these forums lie. But if the attitudes towards women are any indication, not good. In fact, one thing I do like about VV is that women participants are not generally treated as just objects (although Ivo and Akira are not so good there, witness what happened to Tanya and Dizi), but can themselves be assertive in their sexual activities rather than passive tools. Witness Petra, Charlie, Christy and even Nastya (who failed but tried to manipulate Messa). Sonia is a bit passive but did get the man she wanted, Ivo, who hasn't fucked anyone else other than Petra since Sonia came over. I myself have adjusted since I started watching VV. Early on I associated strongly with Phil, wanted Sonia as much as Phil did and felt betrayed when she went to the "dark side", Ivo and Tver. Since then, I have realized that this site is all one big survivor game and not to take it so seriously. I still believe there are some basic human mores even among transient relationships, but I don't take it to heart. At the end of the day, we go on with our lives and this fiction/game doesn't matter much.

Doesn't make sense to try to psychoanalyze people you never met and barely know. People here just form opinions and try to speculate as to what is going on. The main reason for that is, I don't know, maybe because we don't know Russian! So don't get carried away like we really know what's happening there. As to my opinion, for whatever it is worth, it seems that Christy does pout or mope a bit. But, still, I don't really think Messa gets her either. I think they just are basically incompatible. They were two people who cheated behind Nastya's back and had the excitement connected with risking their lives with doing it (I can say that because look what Nastya did when she found out). Once the thrill was gone and all risk gone, they basically realized they had little in common other than the risky sex and smoking cigarettes together. They don't even like the same music. They don't like the same games. He likes to cook, she likes sex. And on and on. They are like dead couple walking. They are a dead couple but haven't been sentenced to death yet. VV, put them out of our misery!

Because his days in VV are numbered unless he has sex with Christy, although hopefully soon they will get new partners for them. Their sex is unsatisfying for them and thus for us. It feels required and forced and thus not interesting.

Cute girl, who is she?

Good way to look at it, Timewarp. These old relationships form good memories for us as we get older. I was just remembering some old relationships also. Good times, good times! The memories allow us to place life in perspective. Perspective is the key to life. Without it, we lose our way, get mad, angry, depressed, etc. And always good to remember the good parts of the old relationships. Like I was remembering a girl I dated right before going away to college. The thing that stuck out in my memory was that I was 6 feet tall and she was like 4 feet 11 inches. It was so funny when we would hug or kiss. I could blame my bad back on her but that was just lifelong bad posture. And I remember some movie we went to about Rock and Roll. She was a nice girl but it ended after I went away. Anyway, don't waste your energy getting mad at some of the people on the forum, its not worth it. People can be idiots. Just go on Facebook, click on some news story and see the idiotic, racist opinions there. I actually wade in there to the 'evil" side of Facebook and post in response, but it really isn't worth it.

Calm down guys. Live and let live. We can all have different opinions and we will. We can say what we want, but it is not worth fighting over, honestly. Get what you want out of the site, critisize what you want, and then let it go. We all bring different skills to this forum. I have felt certain things, said them, had other things and ways of looking at things pointed out to me and then adjusted my opinion where appropriate. We can all learn things from each other. And if we can't fathom what someone says, keep it to yourselves rather than start a fight.

Hey, when you are 18/19 you don't think straight. And your tastes in women will change. Also, personality is obviously important and maybe the girl you knew wasn't a good person for you at that time. Hey and wouldn't we all have loved to have had a girl with Charlie's looks and personality who was that good with sex when we were 18/19?

That's funny. So why don't they do a four way with their good friends, the current guests?

Who was the third girl with Nina and Kira in the three way in the bedroom that time?

Wow, Christy hates Messa! He offered her something from a bag and she basically hit it away. We do not know Russian but if we did we might better understand what the hell is happening here.

Thanks, Timewarp. Even as peformers, they are real people. Don't insult or call them names. Accept people the way they are even if you don't like them. Everyone does have the choice to watch them or not.

There is no relationship between them now. They are just apartment mates. They don't even sleep together anymore. When is VV going to address this situation?

Timewarp, I agree with what you have said about attitudes toward women and sex. But, I do think we should try to be civil as possible on this forum towards each other. My philosophy is that while I call a spade a spade, if people seem ignorant or uninformed, I either try to educate or just ignore it. Purile or puritan ideas towards sex do lead to double standards and maybe even violence or bad attitudes towards women. This is a sex site with a little bit of realism rather than pure porn, but that's it. We want to see sex, so let's not be hypocritical about it when it happens. But, I do believe in honor and dignity even here. There are some mores even among sexual actors. No one wants people to be treated like shit by other performers. Cheating, while perhaps expected here, should be minimized, people should be more honest and open. If Christy wanted Messa, why didn't she just tell Nastya? Then, Nastya would have to accept it or share or try to win back Messa. At least in Tver, they are open about what is going to happen.

Yeah, but we said that about Sonia before she left and she is not unhappy. VV is heading the way of having one big Tver.

Well, they are all porn stars in a certain sense in VV. Some are more of jerks, that is true. We all know what Ivo and Akira are all about. Akira has only improved because Charlie basically "captured" him. Petra is the organizer and head of the porn operation. Sonia is a willing submissive tool of the operation. Messa is not a great person, but he definitely has some issues with strong sexual women like Christy. We should be honest about this: they are all performing for the camera. But some deal with it better than others. Unless VV encourages relationships or gets people in Voro who knew each other a bit before they came in, these situations will keep happening. VV is definitely losing some people because the whole thing is becoming one big show. What I want is people who are extroverts, like cameras but aren't performing for it, but rather having sex with whom they like because they want to, not because it is required. Unfortunately, this wish of mine is like a fantasy under the circumstances in these apartments.

White is not bad looking at all. Just sometimes it seems like she did botox on her face which seems to keep her from smiling much, thus a dour look. Also, it may be her personality that is dour. The girls are all good looking young women. But they hadn't clicked together much, especially with Ilona. Maybe this small trip will help them bond better. If they bond better, we may see more action eventually.

Guest definitely doesn't care what we want. But she has gotten a little looser with getting dressed and undressed. And she may have a significant other based on her frequent video chats, though I can't understand why she doesn't seem to meet that person much, although she does disappear for a couple of days at a time.

Now they are talking animatedly but arguing. I don't think they are compatible. Certainly not sexually. She has passed Messa by in the 'sexual survivor" world that is VV.

Who knows what will happen. Christy and Messa aren't ignoring each other but hardly talking. Something has to be done about this situation.