mr1010

I respect your opinions but disagree vociferously. It is a double standard. Women can have as many partners as men. Ivo fucked like three different girls in 24 hours when Dizi was still here. Now, I didn't like when Christy kept trying to fuck Messa behind Nastya's back and she paid for it when Nastya attacked her. But Nastya didn't own Messa. It just should have been done differently. Maybe if Messa wanted to fuck Christy he could have told Nastya what he was going to do. Or they could have tried to include her with them in a three way (they actually may have, Christy kept trying to get sexy with Nastya that night but she was too drunk). And we really shouldn't call her a slut for doing what men do. Also, this stupid VV world is not real life with real relationships. About the best we can hope for is a little honor in the sexual couplings and nothing behind people's backs. Sonia did handle Phil right in that she mostly did Ivo right in front of Phil. Plus, she didn't want to lead Phil on so she didn't have sex with him after she started with Ivo. With this site, expect the worst and no honor.

Yeah, sleeping separate. Great sign. Bring in new people and have both have new partners.

Akira was a schmuck to Tanya. Remember that bondage night right before she left? You would rather have had that Akira? At least Charlie tames him, is a real nice girl, and their sex is good. Sure, Tver in general is boring and scripted and I would rather have the old Voronezh back with Phil and Dizi, but it is what it is now. It started to go down hill at 2 points, one, when Sonia left to Tver and two, when Phil left. And Dizi leaving was sad too. And yes, I agree that Phil and Messa were a good combo. I do not agree that Messa is real good sexually, but he isn't horrible either. The one thing I feel is that if they had a good cohesive unit again in Voro, everything would be better. I said once that Messa does do better in a group situation than one on one. I think he is threatened by Christy's sexuality which has suddenly blossomed. So to keep him, they must surround him with other sympathetic good people. Maybe team Christy with a new guy if compatible and Messa with a new girl who isn't as sexually assertive.

Yeah, I get it, but Messa doesn't even like his cock touched by her at times. It isn't like she grabs it several times in a couple of hours. He did the same thing with Nastya after a while. He just isn't comfortable with having sex much. And since they hardly even talk or play games, that makes them basically ships passing in the night. And I disagree, Messa is definitely a loner. Every night he hangs out late by himself in the bathroom. He used to just go out at 6 am when he was with Nastya by himself. They call him the undertaker. We'd love to have loving, affectionate sexual relationships here, but it just isn't going to happen with people thrown together that don't even know each other under the vv circumstances. The best you can hope for is a Sonia/Ivo type situation where they picked each other and are mutual with their sex. But even they aren't really affectionate. And Akira and Charlie, who actually are together emotionally, mostly just have sex all the time. It isn't like they go out on dates and then come back and make love. They just are very sexually compatible. I got burned by the Phil/Sonia situation, thought they would be close. Didn't happen, she found Ivo. Phil kept trying, no dice. I think if we watch vv, we have to give up on that happening, unfortunately.

Was that her naked breasts in one of the pics?

That's funny and so true! All they do is look at their phones and have sex, look at their phones and have sex, etc. Earlier Akira and Charlie had sex in their bedroom, took a break for a few minutes, then had sex again! Like rabbits.

She is a bit quirky and kinky at the same time. Definitely a turn on. Is now very in touch with her sexuality. Fun to watch, but get her a good sexual guy.

I mean how would we know he is there? He does nothing. She may stay in living room until Messa is asleep. They really don't interact at all.

Now, she went into the tub and got herself off better, using shower spray (old fashioned method). She is way too hot for Messa, many guys. Phil could handle her but decided not to. VV, get her another guy and boot Messa. In fact, get a couple of others. You can get a guy and a girl and have three ways without Messa.

That was a great masturbation session by Christy, using dildo/vibrator. Think she got off, no tease. She is so hot. Definitely too hot for Messa.

She could go there. Petra has room in her bed.

She was jerking him lightly in the bath and he didn't take to it. Christy gave the sexiest bathroom solo dance before, got him in the tub, started working her magic and, dud! He has to be either gay or bi or confused sexually. Who could resist her sexual charms? And he does like her, not like Phil. I feel bad for Christy who is a fun girl and is doomed to the purgatory that is now Voronezh.

He sleeps on the sofa while she watches 26 inch tv from 25 feet. Must be great. Might as well bring Tver to Voronezh, wake Messa up and have some big time multiple fucks. Not going to happen. Christy will probably sneak away to Tver instead. My question is when does Christy wake up Messa for their sex session, 1 am 2 am?

I didn't record it but I saw it. Sonia and Ivo are good team. Sonia now gets herself off also. Good girl.

I notice it seems harder to find guys sometimes in VV who can keep up with the girls. Phil and Messa are notable examples as well as V, Largo. Ivo and Akira are exceptions. Petra, Sonia, Christy, Nastya, Charlie all can be voracious sexually. Nastya only failed because she got attached to Messa, she otherwise was very able sexually. Now Phil was able but not always willing. They need guys who are more assertive to keep up with the girls and keep them from "straying". Surely there must be some Russian guys who are like that. VV does a better job picking the girls. Sonia and Christy are very sexually active as of course Petra.

She and Messa look extremely bored. They hardly talk to each other. There is nothing there between them except the obligatory one time a night fuck. They don't play games or anything. I think Messa is dead man walking. But they won't get rid of him until new people come into Voro. In the meantime, Christy has to settle for that one fuck and maybe a visit to Tver for some action. It has gotten so I watch Tver more. How sad is that? I like watching Charlie fuck. And Sonia now fingers herself while Ivo fucks her. She has definitely started to recognize her own needs rather than just doing what people want her to. Good for her. Petra put her more in touch with her needs. Don't just be a doormat for others. Christy is definitely more assertive.

I think he means Messa will be the third. It really is not Christy's fault. Phil didn't want Christy or anyone else at VV anymore. Nastya was mentally unbalanced and was doomed by her jealousy and violence. Having said all that, Christy did stoke up problems because she wasn't loyal to anyone. That means she was the "sexual survivor" in VV's system and fits well. VV almost has to get people like that, but then it becomes too porn like and not as interesting. Catch 22.

Petra has taken Christy under her wing as she did with Sonia earlier. Sonia didn't really need help, she already had Ivo. Christy needed help because of problems with Messa and her loneliness. And yes, the sex does seem somewhat forced with Messa. I don't think he is salvageable long term. They need new people in Voro, but not rushing. Is VV rethinking strategy in Voro? Maybe they will just make another Tver. Christy is sexually very active so they need to satisfy her.

Maybe Sara's guy friend there broke up with her. Seems like she was looking at her phone and then was crying. She looked fine earlier. She actually talked with Ilona earlier, who actually went out clubbing tonight. Ilona seemed happy tonight. I will say that Sara is one of the better looking girls on rlc. I was really hoping she would masturbate in the open but not yet. She may eventually. Ilona may also. I would rather see them bring guys back, but I'll take it if they masturbate.

Yeah, you're right, I hope Christy doesn't switch. But I have become very cynical about VV "sexual politics". We need a vibrant Voronezh as an alternative to Tver or a supplement. But, they don't get the right people for it. Also, VV seems ambivalent. On the one hand, they want Voro to succeed and be different than Tver. But at the same time, they seem to want active sex in Voro which makes it become like Tver. And the "survivors" go to Tver anyway. They already have too many people in Tver. Just get good people in Voro. Tver is pure sex. Voro should have some relationships.

I do notice that the sleeping body language in Christy and Messa's bed is not bad, she is sleeping almost next to Messa. Maybe they will still have sex, just that Christy also likes Tver action. Don't go to the dark side, Christy! She may like Tver too much. It may be like Sonia at first. Sonia still slept with Phil for awhile after she made it with Ivo. She still occasionally would grind on Phil or snuggle in bed with him until finally she went to Tver for good. Christy for now may want to have sex with Messa, but the allure of Tver is beckoning her to the dark side. What future is there for Voronezh?

Sara is lying topless in her bed. She looks like she wants to masturbate but doesn't have the guts to do it in the open. She is one good looking girl, but stuck up.

I do agree with you, Timewarp. Nothing wrong with girls who want multiple sexual partners if it is ok for guys to have them. We should get rid of the old double standard.

Ok, if they had a good session then I don't get it. Maybe its like what they did other times when Phil and Dizi and Sonia were at Voro. Just intrude Tver on Voro to spice things up, shake it up, maybe try new couplings. Maybe Petra will do Christy at times while she is also still having sex with Messa. I don't think Ivo will do Christy because it might antagonize Sonia, but I wouldn't say it is impossible. I think basically Christy wants to get in the action, is not satisfied, so they include her in Tver at times. Big problem! Once Christy is there, she won't want to leave since she is sexually adventurous and they already have too many people there. Christy could eventually replace Sonia since Christy is assertive sexually whereas Sonia is submissive. I liken VV to a dog eat dog sexual world. The ones who are assertive and the kinkiest or most adventurous survive while the others fall by the wayside. Christy is definitely a survivor, Sonia maybe. The other Tver members definitely survivors. Messa probably a loss, though they will wait until they find new people for Voro before kicking him out (as long as he has good sex with Christy). You know, it occurs to me that they could almost close down Voro and just keep Tver, whittling it down to the survivors. But they won't do that, they need a safety valve for the project, which is Voro.

I didn't see anything tonight (Thanksgiving), but it looks like they are trying to spice things up by getting Christy into Tver stuff, but don't want her there permanently. Sonia is not on her way out. Maybe Christy needed to get off good, which Petra does well, because Messa doesn't satisfy her enough. Also, it shows her things she can try with so Messa can get her off also. Apparently, it sounds like she had sex later with Messa, but still quick and not satisfactory. Confusing! It may be they are trying everything to see if they should keep Messa. I think he is failing despite their efforts. This time he went to bed early and she stays awake. Not a good sign.