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Anybody here on Tver thread? Which guy is in bed with Nikky? She likes whoever it is. I kind of think it is a drunk Sender.

Who is the guy Nikky is making nice to his back in Petra's bed? Is that one of party guys or Sender? And where is Akira. And of course, Ivo and Sonia fucking now.

What is going on now in Tver? Party group back in Tver at 5 am. Akira I think is in Petra's bed (drunk?). And where is Nikky, sender?

Oh, I see your other post Mr. Box. I agree with you that I don't just want to see sex. Like you say, I can watch porn sites or chaturbate for that. I like you do like rlc and have been watching it more and more. But let's be honest with ourselves, even rlc involves some shows for the cameras. They want to get views so they stay on. They just aren't as in your face with their shows or the sex. RLC couples' apartments sometimes have plenty of sex. But the people usually are real couples. The problem with VV and this may be a problem inherent in the concept itself is that it feels too contrived, the people are just thrown together and matched up and the action is preplanned. VV's heavy hand is too evident here. Why not let the people do their own thing, no central scripting? VV can always kick people out if they do nothing (which rlc never does so old stale couples stay there or couples that rip off rlc for a free apartment). So in conclusion, VV is the opposite of rlc. They micromanage everything whereas rlc hardly manages at all. How about a middle ground, where you don't micromanage but you do manage somewhat. To do it right though requires good smart screening of would be participants. RLC doesn't always do well at it. Neither does VV.

Don't worry Mr. Box, I am good at convincing myself that fantasies are real, lol! Just make it convincing! All movies and tv shows that are based on fiction do that. And actors are actors, the people who do the acting are not like their characters. Yet, we know they are fantasies or fiction and we still watch. Then I go home from the movies and move onto the next fantasy or fiction. We will even go home from the movies and talk about how good the acting was. So if Christy comes back, does a sexy blow job with some new guy, then fucks the living daylights out of him, we know it is staged for the audience just like a movie. Yet we enjoy it anyway (especially when Christy fucks!). Just don't make it so freaking obvious that they planned it or are acting! No one likes a film actor who looks like he is acting. We want to be convinced they are the character in the movie and we are there in the room with them. I have a young adult son who wants to do film acting. If I see his scene and it looks like he was acting, he didn't do a good job. I just don't want to spend $30 a month to watch people just play cards.

Agree to disagree, Mr. Box. I think Voro is boring. Real life is out there, we can live it. I can play card games, drink if I want. I don't need to watch others do it. However, I can't necessarily see sexy young people playing sexy games and have interesting sex in real life. I don't want it to be preplanned, but to make it interesting we do need some action or as is often said here, content. And I can watch sitcoms or reality tv if I want to see what these guys do and I don't pay a dime more. If I am paying $30 a month, I want to see sexy fun and sex just not according to a preplanned script. Now, I don't know if it is possible, but that's what I want. And I like Petra, she knows how to motivate people and make things sexy. My vision will not be a huge Tver. It will be a modified mix of Tver and Voro. Sexiness and sex without script. And get rid of the silly tweets.

Oh, I think the girl Akira sits next to is one whose brother is heavyset blond guy. So Akira has way clear! But I don't no if she is interested. Akira is like a card shark there. Fits right in with card playing boring group!

Hmm, I think Akira likes black haired girl he sits next to in poker game. Only problem is doesn't she have a bf there? If Akira gets a girl, Sender can go to Petra and Nikky (and Christy later) become extras.

How the hell young is this couple? The guy looks like a senior in high school, the girl not much older. Do they rob the cradle now? Don't get me wrong, I like them. But when they look younger than my 19 year old sons, it freaks me a little. One of my sons had a party last night at my house. The girls he had there looked older than Chloe!

I agree, Petra is necessary and the best for VV. Without her where would VV be? I know Ivo and Sonia are like a married couple (hey, please don't call them boring I am part of a married couple! Nah, I get it, not fun to watch.), but I still like them. Sonia is one of my favorites. But they don't mix well with the others. Ivo particularly is a bit antisocial. Nikky, the ice princess, can at least mix a little. But I don't want her here. She and Akira don't add anything. There are a couple of the party group girls that seem alright as singles. But they don't seem to like to be nude or have sex before the cameras. And Akira doesn't seem to gravitate to anyone. Herein lies the essential problem of VV: they need people who are exhibitionists, like sex, mix well with others in group settings, won't form a boring couple, won't get possessive (Nastya), and who are creative. How the fuck easy is that??? Best thing is for VV to go back to it's roots. Get a good "ensemble" group of sexy exhibitionists who like fun and spontaneity. Good luck!

Back to old party group in Voro. Oh, joy!

Slap, sat11, tallguy, natres, how is everyone today? I like the discussion going on between some of you. That is what I like about camcaps, the interchange of ideas perhaps resulting in consensus among us. I actually am going to listen for once before commenting. Too often I get out in front of the debates here. I am actually on VV less than before. I like the different ideas. Another apartment, all singles, couples, who should stay, who should go. The effect of Christy coming back, etc. I don't know that we know which one will work the best. Like I have said it is trial and error. One thing VV does not do well is to use its imagination. Be creative, inventive. No one idea works perfectly. Be eclectic, try several ideas. I think Christy will likely go into the 3rd villa when they get it up and running (they said in February). Right now, Voro doesn't work and they have too many people in Tver. They have three guys and one girl (four if you count Sender's guy friend who comes every night) in Voro. I agree that Akira and Nikky don't work as a couple, probably had sex the other night as a one off just to keep us interested. Ideally, get rid of Nikky and Akira, put Sender back with Petra. New couple is ok, at least we get content with them. Need another two people, hopefully two singles, in Voro. I agree with Sat11 that singles would be best. The site is starting to look like a couples' only site. Kind of like my recent vacation to Sandals in Barbados. It gets boring fast. Have a mix of couples and singles. Singles only, like slap says, can backfire also. Witness the meltdown with Christy, Phil, Messa and Nastya. So no one approach works totally. The other thing is enough of all the scripted sex! We know this is entertainment and so there will be some shows and plays to the cameras. But let the people come up with their own spontaneous sexy games and sex that isn't always the same. Half the time VV actually tweets us before the sex takes place! Do we really need the previews? What are the tweets, like a tv fucking guide?

I don't think that there is any problem with Ivo and Sonia. He has him arm around her while they sleep. I just think Ivo has seemed moody or tired at times. Sonia is never moody, most cheerful person I have seen! You almost cannot get her mad!

It's really funny if she can pull off being 18 years old! And it figures she would do solos, she does that well. She should do other stuff though where they don't care if she is older. Do guys (sender?), blowjobs, cumshots, girl on girl. She should do scene with Nikky. Nikky can do a smoking hot scene, has done older guys. Pretty sad here that we are left with talking about their pornos rather than what they do here!

Well, it would have been interesting. Nina likes to suck her bf's cock, how about she suck Akira while bf fucks her! But nooo! It isn't in the script. Who writes these scripts anyway? If I were to write the script it would be so much more interesting than this crap. Have some fucking orgies for god's sake! You know these people love sex, why not just do it at the same time in the same room or living room. It used to be hot when Charlie would just fuck or blow Akira right in the living room and Ivo would do Petra. Even in the same room at the same time. Even consider swapping for a night. Use your imagination for god's sake. And these "actors/actresses" are capable of doing these things themselves. They do not need central scripting to dictate their stupid scripts! Please get Christy back and mix it up here!

Who is Nina with for a threesome?

So funny! Petra tells Sender, you didn't need no freaking porn, I'll give you some freaking porn! And she fucks him good. Oh and Cassy, she is doing live for a client. That explains things to me. She has often lain on her bed talking in what looked like a video chat. This site is basically a collection of discrete porn clips. No real interaction between different groups, just sex here, girl on girl there, solo here. The parties where they used to have sexy chair games with Phil and Dizi, Sonia and Phil, Christy and Messa, they were the best. Even Nastya was very hot in some of those games. Now all we get is Petra fucking Sender, new couple fucking, Ivo and Sonia fucking and Nikky with Petra or Akira. No games, no hotness or sexiness. Mind you, I am not a prude. I like the sex. But it has gotten seriously boring, no mystery, no adventure, no build up. Even real life couples need occasional change, adventure in their sexual activities! Doing some three ways where we don't expect that person to be the third would be hot. Like I thought that Nina likes Akira's tattoos, they get along. So why not Akira joins in their sexual activites one time. How about Nikky in with Sonia and Ivo? That would spice things up, would be unexpected. We even all knew Nikky was going to fuck Akira the other night. She was grabbing him, flirting, he wasn't running away. It was freaking obvious. And then boring sex in the dark on the sofa in Tver, the worst camera for it. Why not just get down on your knees in Voro that night, in the light, take out his cock and start blowing him (well she did that once already at the beginning). Still it would be unexpected and welcome. Now, I am not naive. I know many sex acts here are scripted. The art of entertaining is to make it look like it is spontaneous and outrageously daring! These people aren't academy award winners, that's for sure.

Cassy, you think Chaturbate? Honestly, I don't know if she fits the bill for Chaturbate. A little older, I don't know that guys will be as interested in watching her do a solo. Now, if she does a blowjob or a girl on girl, that might get viewers and money.

Hey Jabbath. How are you today? I am good. Inquiring minds want to know (about Petra's broadcasting). If some of these people are not into porn, they are aspiring to at least do some softcore stuff! I'd personally like to see Sonia do some stuff. That "innocent" face sucking a cock would sure set me off! Better yet would be for her to do me, lol!

Wow! Guy fest in Voro! No offense, but did I accidentally tune into the gay voyeur site?

"Birdies" aren't scripted, don't ya know Spielo? New couple is regular couple. Duh, they already put names on their room! Hey, Friday night paaarties! Aren't we all excited? Nikky lying in her best pose there in Tver. Someone (Akira) may get lucky tonight!! Where is the "regular couple" anyway?

Nack, back to deader than a doornail VV again! How are you today? They denied sex is scripted? Lol!!!! Unsy says he knows Christy is coming back definitely next week. You'd have to talk to him in a pm. What happened to Akira and Nikky? Another one night stand? It is like VV has spurts of good fun and sex surrounded by a sea of boredom!!

Sat, apparently that seems to be the case. I hope Nikky and Akira would sleep together, but it may only be an ocassional fuck. At least we know they can do it and want to. Since Christy is coming back next week, they may be waiting for that and then the dust may settle.

What they had a little loose cum to clean up and no tissues? Wow, I missed the action. Already fucked? I'm just not crazy about the cams in that apartment.

I missed everything again? Petra and Sender already fucked? And what about the porno movie they were making? What did they do in it?