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Jabbath, I really like Sonia and wish her the best. I tend to doubt these relationships can survive, but who knows. Two porn stars, Julia and Gavin got married! And maybe she isn't pregnant after all.

You know Petra actually gets Nikky off for real! That isn't even for a porn star. They are so used to faking it and their genitals must be a little desensitized after all the sex. Nikky obviously likes Petra!

What did we miss, bookmaster? I haven't been here much today.

Upndown, I agree with you. Canito is just stating his opinions albeit passionately. I am a passionate person so I understand. But, I have to say people here are parsing too much and analyzing too much the personalities of these girls. This apartment no matter what is head and shoulders better than any since K & K. And though I love, loved K & K, they never did anything. At least with these girls there is a small chance something will happen! That tiny chance keeps our interest so well. Oh wait, am I implying that they are getting lots of views by leading us on? I didn't say it, lol!!! but...... Heck, I am enjoying it anyway!!!

I like Petra. I don't think anyone coming into VV is a virgin or corruptible. Petra may be slightly more mature but she is a really good person. She takes on many jobs at VV. She is the organizer, manager, motivational person, befriends girls and guys, does anything VV asks or doesn't ask of her. This site would die without her! Right now, she helps Nikky who otherwise doesn't fit in. She loves Nikky. I think Sonia is her favorite but she has graduated from the Petra school now and she has her bf (Ivo). Did someone say she was looking at wedding dresses????? OMG!! You know Sonia has been ill a bit lately at different times. I am not,not saying this as fact, but any chance she is pregnant? Half the time when she has sex with Ivo, he doesn't wear a condom and sometimes comes right near her pussy. Plus you can get pregnant fro m some leaking sperm while you have sex before you cum! I hope not! I will say this though, I think Sonia and Ivo are in love with each other. Where is Sender these days? Went with his friends who left?

Thank you, miscvoyeur, I feel better now. Someone actually spoke back to Snaky other than me. I read your post here. Now, I can stop rising to his baits.

Thank you, timewarp and miscvoyeur, I really appreciate it. From now on, I will tone down the tenor of my posts so that I don't antagonize. And timewarp, I really feel for Akira. Funny to say this because I used to hate him back from the time with Tanya. Remember the f...ing bondage scene? Only that was not scripted, Tanya really liked him and wanted him and they debased her using her desires against her! One of the few scenes I wouldn't watch after a while. The other was the bdsm scene with Christy and Ivo's friend. I am not into that scene. I think you are right, Akira's heart was broken when Charlie left him. F...ing Nikky did that to him. And miscvoyeur is right, Nikky came onto him that night, he did not want to have sex with her then or later. This kind of makes my point. VV, I believe, believe, kind of requires them or strongly encourages them to "mate" with their chosen partners. Akira didn't want to leave VV the first time, but he had no sexual partner and did not fit in. Plus, he left to try to win Charlie back over. It obviously didn't work, so he came back and.....was paired with the girl who broke up his relationship. Almost a Shakesparean tragedy! VV does this to people there. I feel it in my bones. No, I don't know it as fact! Dizi, Phil, Messa, Nastya, Akira, all left I believe because of VV's "requirements" that they put on these people. Phil didn't like the pressure to find a partner and have sex, he only wanted Sonia. Dizi didn't accept any of the male partners they gave her for sex (some of who were hellacious!), Tanya couldn't fit in, she interfered with the relationship with Charlie. Messa and Christy were basically given sex education lessons by Petra. And Akira I discussed already. Nastya may have been kicked out because of violence, but she was provoked because Christy didn't follow her chosen partnership (and because she was crazy jealous!).

OK, guys. I may have said it too authoritatively, but I didn't mean to put it forward as fact. If people took it that way, I am sorry I misled you. As a lawyer, we tend to argue our points to death! I will try to state it differently from now on, maybe put in a disclaimer at the end of my posts! And timewarp, thank you for using tack and respect when you don't agree with me. I do appreciate that! And maybe I did not realize how it came across. I tend to write how I would talk but worse. When you talk directly to someone you have more of a filter before things come out of your mouth. When I write, I may sometimes forget the filter. it is almost too easy to say angry, provocative things when you write. Especially when things are anonymous! Witness facebook and twitter! And miscvoyeur, don't think badly of me. I had no intent to mislead anyone. I just got a little carried away. Sometimes, I think I let snaky get under my skin a bit and argue too forcefully. He did start it with his post about the nature of VV which I didn't agree with. I shouldn't let myself get so easily provoked.

I never said anything was fact or true. As a lawyer it would be stupid to posit something as fact when it is not proven. No one here, however knows anything to be true or not true unless they work for VV. Even knowing Russian does not put us inside VV headquarters! Now, maybe Snaky works for VV so he would know. Anyone else work for VV? But theorizing is the spice of life. It is using our brains to put forward theories using reasoning. Lawyers often do this in opening statements. I guess from now on I should a disclaimer after all my posts, "this post involves only a theory and should not be viewed as a statement of fact by the poster"! I am just strong with what I say. That is another habit of lawyers. We argue every single freaking point, lol! I will agree with you, timewarp, let's not make it a porn site. I pledge not to "whine" or complain every time I don't see predictable sex henceforth. Okay????? And Slapjack, good question. Will we still pay? Let's see what happens with the new people. And Mr. Box, that is my point exactly!

I didn't pass it off as true. Remember that I merely responded to Snaky's theories. I notice that you won't critique his theories. I always make theories, everyone knows that they are just theories. Just because I say it strongly doesn't mean I know it to be true, none of us do.

Dynamic 5 have left for good? I don't know if I believe it yet. If so, finally! While I guess it occupied Voro for a while and kept some interest, it had gotten extremely boring, card games every night. I had predicted that they would leave after the long New Year's weekend. Now we wait for Russian New year's on January 7 and new people in Voro.

Miscvoyeur, it is not "baseless" speculation, just speculation. Baseless implies I had no basis in what I said. I stated in length my basis for what I said. You can disagree with my rationales and that is fine. Snaky did the same thing with his speculations but no one said anything about what he said. I notice that no one seems to want to take him on. I do agree with you that it is true that we don't really know what is going on. But I feel we all have to make judgments based upon what we interpret things to be. How else do we decide what we think about things? Oh, and I have heard many, many people on this forum who have said that the sex is scripted in Tver, including I believe you, miscvoyeur. Many others have commented on the idea that people have been encouraged or pushed to have sex with their partners. I merely extrapolated upon that and brought all of these things together in one whole package. You can disagree with that whole package if you want, that is only my opinion. But, Snaky has done the same thing, put together a whole package, one which I believe is incredibly naive. What we both have done is to put forth theories. Nothing wrong with doing that. Just don't critique me and not Snaky! Or don't critique either one.

Snaky, do you work for VV? Because you just made the biggest, most naive defense of a company I have ever seen. You are unbelievably naive. Phil was booted because he wouldn't have sex with Christy or other girls, he didn't commit violence. Dizi left for suspicious "health reasons" and after she wouldn't have sex with a succession of guys. I didn't mention Nastya because she committed violence as did Largo as did the belly dancer girl. Tanya was forced out because she wanted sex with Akira and VV didn't want her muddying the waters with Charlie. Messa did lock out Christy that night. But did you forget how Petra did an intervention with Christy and Messa to solve their sexual issues? And how that was why Christy basically froze him out? What about Akira? While he may have left himself, there was obviously pressure on him to have sex with Nikky. And Akira was encouraged and pushed by his "friends" in Tver to have sex with Nikky that first night. Why do you think Tver people push sex on people? (Akira, Messa) It is because VV has made it clear to Petra and others there that you need to do it to survive in VV long term. What about Ivo with the dog lady? They brought her in, basically told Ivo to have sex with her. When Ivo couldn't get it up with her, she was gone. Petra basically runs the show in VV. She speaks to VV people and often has the games organized and ready to go. You think there is no scripted stuff in VV?? Have you seen Tver over the last 3 months? You know I'd almost think you were tongue in cheek with this whole naive VV can do no wrong thing, but my sense of you is that you are always serious, always negative. I doubt you could even make a joke or be light hearted. If you don't think they ever script things or encourage sex or get rid of people when there are sexual issues or incompatibility, you are sadly mistaken. Or at least, get a job working for VV. Or maybe you do, lol!

Snaky, you believe that shit? If so, you are more naive than I thought. They put pablum like that crap on their intro page and you believe it? Amazing! Oh, and I am just expressing myself as others have done here with similar comments. I also expressed my comments on how to constructively change the site such as with 4 new single people in Voro and get rid of Nikky, but I guess you didn't read that. Like the way you missed that VV itself calls natasha Nikky. Anything else you missed? I suppose you also believe that nothing is "scripted" as they say and that the participants are "free" to do as they wish. And no one has been booted for failing to live up to VV's sexual standards (Phil/Messa/Akira/Dizi/Tanya, etc.). I have my eyes wide open with this site.

Glad to hear that everyone is ok. Oh, I didn't realize so many hours difference between us.

Oh man, getsome, I went away after watching the first part of the massage with the butt and legs and missed the tits massage. They may be getting somewhere. next step is subtle touching of Ilona's crotch. I think Ilona is getting closer. Let Ilona touch her pussy while wearing panties also. Now, Anna is another story. She can get the same treatment if she doesn't chicken out again. For god's sake, she slept with Irma, had a good chance. Maybe there is still hope.

Jabbath. I finally was able to view the file of Ivo fucking Sonia on the table. I used VLC media player. Pretty hot. Not very comfortable though. No wonder his body hurts, lol! I imagine Sonia ain't feeling great either! Nice recording, Jabbath.

Hey, unsy. I asked Nack also, but he might be asleep, I think he is 6 hours from me (your time?). Major earthquake, but India is a big country so hopefully everything is alright. The twitter page is so f...ing stupid!!!! Well, it provides us with some humor. And yeah, the card games are so much fun! I hope Spielo is right and these guys are gone after Russian New Year on the 7th. And new people in Voro. The whole Nikky thing is tiring already. I like her pornos but I don't need her in VV to see them. And she won't make it with any guy except that time with Akira. I honestly think she is afraid it will hurt her career in porn to fuck an ordinary guy. Or it is beneath her. And Ivo loves sexuality, taped her porno, but is afraid to death of her. He could have easily fucked her yesterday when Sonia was gone. I think once they get 4 new people in Voro, send Nikky back to her porn career! Let's blow up Voro and start from scratch with 4 sexy fun people not porn stars, single people and let the chips fall where they may. Let people hook up with whom they want. I would love Christy and her bf to come back and go to Voro, but if she can't, get 4 new people. Send the "dynamic five" as I have been calling them packing! Well, I go back to the gym tomorrow to work out with my trainer. I broke a rib a couple of weeks ago but it is healed now. I look forward to the workout. How was your work today? And your guests? Speak to you later.

I usually stay home too, df, but decided to go out for once now that my kids are grown up. Glad you had a good time. As for the girls, if Irma or Anna want another girl, just freaking go for it! Ilona wanted the massage, so Irma tried one more time. But Ilona is oblivious. She needs sex education. She is like a sexualized child who has no clue about what those feelings are! She cavorts around naked, incites the hell out of Irma and some of us, and has no idea what that does to us. Irma should either go for it or give up and try Anna again. My hunch, neither girl will go for Irma's advances. If she was a guy, she would have such a case of blue balls! I know i do!

I saw what legrandrobert was talking about. Anna might have been a bit interested. I just think Irma wants Ilona more. She is so freaking cute, but so unaware of her sexuality. It is almost like robbing the cradle with her. Anna has to learn to assert herself with Irma. Irma will fool with her also if she make it clear she won't chicken out. New Year's Eve was a disaster. Anna could have made it with Irma but chickened out. And Ilona was out then.

Df, I agree with you. Irma is more than willing. Anna got scared like a little girl on New Year's eve by Irma when they slept together. Now, I think Anna might be coming around a little, like tonight when Irma kissed her and played with her leg. But I doubt she will let her pet her. I think Irma for whatever unfathomable reason is more attracted to Ilona and badly wants to make it with her. (Actually, I understand why. Ilona is fucking cute! But a baby when it comes to her sexuality.) But what more can she do short of asking her if she wants to experience some fun, lol? I mean these massages she gave to Ilona fucking turned me on but that don't do any good for Irma! Just f...ing go for it, Irma. You want her, go for her. Let her play with your boobs and you play with her nipples to start. Maybe playing with her nipples would start to awaken the sleeping sexuality Ilona has inside. Do something. Mind you I wouldn't mind if she makes it with Anna, but Anna is turned on sexually a bit and is afraid of that coming out. Ilona is oblivious. BTW, df, how was your New Years? Mine was good, went out to a catering hall, ate, danced, drank, had fun.

Danke, Jabbath. I am downloading now, it is a big file. P.S.- feed me more german!

Yadevol, that is a very concise statement I think of the young porn market. There are sooooo many porn starlets out there, some of whom are so much better even than her. The competition is intense. She should make as much money as possible while she can! VV is just a pitstop for her.

Oh and there is no censorship in that apartment. Even when mother hen Nora was around, the girls brought back guys and had sex. Kami just didn't want to fool around with Kristy, but was so fucking turned on she came violently in private. Nora showed the girls vibrators she had and I think even lent it to kami.

Otep, you are right, Irma would easily scare Anna away if she makes the move. I think Anna is a little confused as to her feelings about fooling around. Part of her wants it, but mostly she doesn't want it to go too far. Ilona only wants sensual massages that should turn her on if she is a sexual person, but she is not. I think she actually is a little turned on but is a "virgin" (probably is) when it comes to her sexuality. As far as we know she doesn't masturbate. When Kristy used to do it to Kami, she masturbated and had violent orgasms and squirts later on in secret. And Irma is very good at those massages. If she were massaging my legs like that and I was on my back, I probably would have shot my cum right at her, lol! How does Ilona resist that?