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Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Thank you very much. This was my mistake, sorry. However from the sentence its quite clear that Alberto was ment: "Alfredo comes from the guest room to its own bed" -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Here my short answer: "great difficulties to walk". Did you look at the recordings? Look around 3:42, she's moving slowly and uncertainly. But I'm just imagining it, she must have been drinking chamomile tea all night, as usual. "You mentioned several times a new guy". I didn't mention any new guy before. Where did I mention that? Allow me just one ironic comment: Alfredo slept in the guest room just to be on the safe side, which he normally never does. Just in case Martina brings someone home. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
03:42 Martina comes home Great difficulties walking safely. (drunk and stoned?) 03:49 Walk with Taco Search for Alberto, finds him sleeping in the guest room. (I think it's very nice of him, he left his bed empty, just in case) 4:09 to smoke on the balcony 04:28 Bedroom 4:32 in bed 6:52 Alfredo comes from the guest room to its own bed I'm looking forward to the conversations between the two today.... -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Excuse me girlsfun. I don't think it is ejaculation. I'm not sure, but it's not small spurts like ejaculation. She pees and consciously looks at her pussy while peeing. She interrupts about seven times. Really good Martina. Always good for a surprise. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
17:36 Martina seduces Alberto, usual fuck for the night out ticket. Alfredo must have been happy that Martina was so keen on him (such a naive fool). It was clear to see what she was up to. 17:51 Alfredo squirts on her butt 17:52 Martina pees on the rag on the bed (never seen that before) 18:00 Martina takes a shower Martina dances and is happy and is visibly looking forward to the evening. Shaves her legs and pussy 19:00 In bathroom (by kitchen) for manicure 19:15:01 Martina leaves the apartment. Have a nice evening for you Martina… -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Very nice, love your sarcastic humor. Addendum: Taco and her wet pussy must have really needed to go. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Thank you for your additions. General: the white lace top is not new, she has worn it several times. She washed it the night before, so she had already planned to go out on Sunday. I'm missing a comment on the scene: 7:20 Martina furiously throws her socks in Albert's face. That wasn't funny at all. But the crucial question is: Where was Martina for eight hours? You suggest Martina was playing bingo. Do you have any clues or is this just speculation? Or was it a sarcastic comment? In Germany bingo is mostly played by old and very old people. Young people play something completely different if you know what I mean. One further amendment: Martina really worked hard for her school and I admire her for that. How can she go out until 3 am knowing she has to go to school Monday morning? Very bad omens... -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
It's strange what is being discussed here and then see the reality. September 11, 2022: Martina really wanted to go out, Alberto didn't want that. Result as always: 5:0 for Martina: 13:24 Ma conducts a COVID-19 self-test. Result negative, immediately call someone to tell, then goes into the bathroom and makes a phone call from there (because conversation without audio is possible). 13:35 Alberto comes into the bathroom, now she told him the result of the test. Great joy. 16:22 Great discussion begins about her evening. 16:24 Ma yells around, howling voice 16:26 Martina is sitting frustrated in the living room, arguing in the bathroom 16:36 Both take Taco for a walk 17:19 both back 17:20 Ma furiously throws her socks in Albert's face 17:25 funny scene in sleeping room, Ma naked 17:27 Ma takes a shower 18:10 Sleeping room: Alberto lies on the bed and watches Ma dressing sexy to go out 18:47 Ma leaves the apartment, Alberto accompanies her to the apartment door and waves after her. A real idiot. 3:00 Ma comes home after eight hours, drunk and/or stoned. Goes into the living room, no pants and no panties. (she may have undressed as soon as she entered the bathroom) 3:07 Ma goes to bed to Alberto 4:20 Ma goes to the guest room 7:20 Ma takes a shower, is very tired, yawns non-stop 7:25 comes out of the shower, goes into the bedroom and first has to sit down on the bed due to physical problems. 7:56 Walk with Taco 8:32 back with taco 8:34 Preparation for school 8:36 Ma went to school (totally exhausted and tired, good luck in school) And again the question: what did she do in these eight hours? -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Many thanks, good advices. Still checking as there are different rules depending on the country. PM could be a way. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
There are always questions about Martina and Nelly. I'm not able to clarify when this episode really started and how often they met. In the last few months I've been trying to find all the existing videos. In the meantime I have 24 videos. I made a list with all the videos and a short description of them. All videos were loaded from the Internet, e.g. Hotscopes. There are no videos that I downloaded from RLC. Now my questions: May I publish this list here or are there legal problems? Is there an interest in this list? I would really appreciate an answer. Thanks in advance. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Hello darkmann, thank you for this remarkable contribution. When I wrote my post today, I also had the thought of the "Boyled Frog". I repeat myself: Contrary to what is always said here, Alberto clearly suffers from all the circumstances. And there is solid evidence of this: quite a few times after Martina's "all-nighter" there were very serious conversations, always in the bathroom (because there is no audio). Marina then sits in the corner like a small child and usually listens without protesting. After that, she gets offended and Albert immediately strokes and kisses her because he is afraid that she might leave him. Or she tries to calm him down with sex. Lately he's even turned down her offers because he saw through the scam. It bothers him and he suffers when she is out at night but he "tolerates" it because he cannot do otherwise. Alberto loves Martina very much, without a doubt. Can a lover bear that there is another partner in this relationship? (Even if it's just an hour-long phone call). Experience shows that it rarely works. One of the three is usually the loser. Here the loser is predetermined. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Thank you very much for this post, which I fully share with you on almost all points. What surprises me is that there are hardly any reactions to it, although you very clearly criticize Martina's behavior. Could it be because you wrote in Spanish? A note on Alberto's behavior: It was reported from various sources that years ago Martina cheated on Alberto with a friend of him and left him. Then she came back. This may be the cause of his pathological behavior. He probably suffered greatly from this incident and experienced a severe trauma. Now he is doing everything to avoid experiencing this deep pain again, the trauma is still there. Besides, that's a common behavior. I am firmly convinced that A suffers greatly from M's behavior, but he accepts this suffering because otherwise he will lose her. But he can't prevent that at all. It's downright embarrassing as he constantly fawns and kisses her. He completely dependent on her and also totally inferior to her mentally. And Alberto seems to be a good gullible person. Martina has a sophisticated, sly and self-centered personality, she is head and shoulders above him. But it gets even worse: If the two separate, he will have to leave the apartment, RLC is certainly not interested in Alberto. (Martina as a single would be an interesting option). In addition, Martina has a very good relationship with Bogdan (verifiable). And Nelly is in the background. Next: He will lose the apartment, an attractive fuck partner, possibly his beloved Taco. He apparently has hardly any social ties (parents, siblings, friends). So what else can he do? Contrary to what is always said here, he clearly suffers from all the circumstances. Take a look at his facial expression and especially his gait. Martina will not change her reckless, self-centered and narcissistic behavior, so he must act or he will perish or at least get sick. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Thank you very much for the comment. I checked everything again, my information is correct. Martina left the house with Taco at 0:55 to go for a walk and came back at 01:10. However, through the review. I came across one thing that I don't want to talk about just yet. Everyone should take a close look at the scenes from 01:27 (Camera 6 Bathroom). And her look and smile with a guy...really, really worth seeing. Just this for today: When she leaves the room, you can see on the mobile phone that she was on the phone with a man. And she showed him her make-up via video chat and he commented. Added timetable: 00:48 Shoes on 00:49 with mobile phone video chat in the bathroom 00:50 Camera 6 Bathroom and video chat 00:52 Little gold stars stuck on face and flirting with someone whom she showed her appearance / make-up and he commented on it. (no audio in bathroom) A look and a smile like I've never seen from her before 01:11 Bedroom: Clothing checked 01:12 Mobile phone: Loud music, puts on black stockings, takes off stockings again 01:20 more make-up in the bathroom (camera 4) 01:27 calls someone (who will probably pick her up) 01:28 Farewell to Taco, kissing Alberto, keep calling 01:29:35 Leaving and closing the door. I have several recordings and screenshots with details of the scenes. Unfortunately, I can't share them here for legal reasons. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Here the timetable of a beautiful and normal night in Barcelona: 00:24 Bedroom: dressed in most sexy skirt and see-through bra Alfredo sleeps on the couch Phone call/Skype with man and/or woman 00:28 Sexy shoes on 00:34 Take off sexy skirt and sexy bra and put on “normal” jeans shorts and another bra. She had previously sent her outfit via mobile phone. She was probably advised not to wear this sexy outfit Confirmation of new outfit via mobile phone 01:29 Martina left the house 07:34 Martina comes home singing, has difficulties walking 07:35 Conversation with Alfredo 07:36 Martina makes toast 07:40 Albert kisses Martina in the kitchen 08:43 Martina goes to bed 08:48 Alberto comes to bed, cuddles her, but leaves again. ….. 12:00 Martina in a deep sleep A "normal" couple would like to spend Sunday together. Nice that Alberto can go back to work on Monday. It's all so weird. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
This is an interesting aspect and sounds logical. And Bogdan seems to be involved in the RLC organization. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #20
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
I envy Kos, eight beautiful girls in beautiful dresses. Strange situation: one floor above Martina and Alberto. Do they even know about their new neighbors? M & A should visit the apartment and then look at theirs..... Karol and Kos seem to have a neat lifestyle. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
I'll report back when I have new records. Unfortunately, I couldn't find these rare, good-quality recordings that I reported on, probably deleted them. I don't want to speculate, just make statements based on facts. So be patient. Only Time Will Tell. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
I usually record the scene. With a special video program I can enlarge the scene, improve the recording quality, play it slower, etc. The only weak point is the poor resolution of the cameras in their apartment. As simple as that. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Danke chema dass Sie sich noch einmal melden und Danke für Ihren aufschlussreichen Beitrag. Nach dem was sie schreiben, wohnen Sie in der schönen Schweiz. Deshalb benutze ich hier bewusst deutsch, ginge aber auch in „Schwitzer-Dütsch“... Ich habe vor einige Wochen beobachtet wie Martina spät in der Nacht durch Duzende „Profile“ gegangen ist, in der viele Frauen zu sehen waren. Einigen hat sie per Text geantwortet. Anderen hat sie eine Voice-Mail gesendet. Sie hat auch Voice-Mails angehört. Insofern passt das zu Ihrem Beitrag. Ich meine, ich habe das aufgezeichnet, werde noch einmal genauer suchen. Leider versagt der Google Translator bei Französisch, wegen der in Französisch übliche Verwendung der Artikel. PS: Unsere Enkeltochter ist Deutsch-Französin, hilft mir hier aber nicht weiter. Sie haben am Anfang geschrieben: "Pour moi, Martina est une garce et une petite salope doublée d'une menteuse ivrogne et drogue." Der Translator macht daraus: "Für mich ist Martina eine Schlampe und eine kleine Schlampe, die von einem betrunkenen und unter Drogen stehenden Lügner gesäumt wird." Was und wer ist damit genau gemeint? Ich würde mich über eine Antwort sehr freuen. Danke im Voraus. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Your report is in agreement with my observations, thank you. However, she had only viewed a very small selection of photos and videos. Maybe we missed the best. There are some indications to suggest the evening was used to create new photo material for Martina's dating site or something similar. As soon as I have proof, I will report on it. BTW she used the paddle at home to slap Alberto's partially bare bottom. Very funny. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
I'm sorry, I made a mistake. This morning chema (not chemma) wrote a post on 08/29/2022 11:25 (in French). I'm really surprised not to see any reaction to this post until now. chema reports a lot of things that will surprise many of you. I finally know who Martina is chatting with at night. Big surprise if true. girlsfun2 check it out. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
The reason for visiting the hotel yesterday could be the need for new sex footage to update Martina's dating site: Aug 28 approx. 3:45 p.m. Martina selected the sex utensils and sexy underwear and packed them in the backpack (camera 8 bedrooms). She put the sexy stuff on the bed and video chatted it all live to someone. Strange. Aug. 29 around 18:00 she looked at the recordings (video and pictures) and also showed it to Alfredo (camera 2 living room). She played with the new sex toy (SLAP ME PADDEL pink FEDERSTAB) that she packed yesterday. It must have been a long night, Martina fell asleep twice while she was cooking. (17:22 kitchen) I would very much like to know the dating site she works with worldwide. (see post chemma 08/29/2022 11:25) -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Excuse me. This answer belongs to chemma's post: 08/29/2022 11:25. Something went wrong. -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
Thank you for this insightful post. Piece by piece we get more puzzle pieces to understand the whole picture. By the way, I've seen botellón parties in Mallorca. These lasted until about 4 a.m., then they went to the disco/club until about 7/8 a.m. That fits together. She usually takes a full hip flask with her to parties, which is forbidden in clubs. That fits too. Be prepared for a shitstorm when the Saint Martina fans get going. I’m sorry, I have the sentence "Pour moi, Martina est une garce et une petite salope doublée d'une menteuse ivrogne et drogue." not understood. Who do you mean? -
Martina & Alberto - 2022 #19
berty_47 replied to Noldus's topic in Jade & Alberto (04/15/17 - 03/01/25)
