Ridgerunner Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Alladino said: Do you want it to stop? Stop what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: Stop what? When you saw George Floyd die. What do you want to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Alladino said: It's not enough! The protests are directed against the police brutality and against the racism. It's about protecting the people who are still alive. To change the errors in the system that lead to this Events and enable this kind of actions. Don't you realize that? Imagine if one of your children had been the victim, begging for air and calling for his mother. Murdered in the street by the people whose job it is to protect him. Then the SOB would have been arrested and will be tried for 2nd degree murder and other charges, just like this cop is--- Get off the repeated rhetoric about this dirty cop. Do you think that in the world it is only the police that are racists??? Hell no-- Do you think that only the police commit brutal acts against other human beings??? Hell no-- Justice will be done ---so it is about time to concentrate on following the rule of law and on getting these people back to work so they don't have so much leisure time to commit their own violent acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, happyone said: Then the SOB would have been arrested and will be tried for 2nd degree murder and other charges, just like this cop is--- Get off the repeated rhetoric about this dirty cop. Do you think that in the world it is only a few the police that are racists??? Hell no-- Do you think that only the police commit brutal acts against other human beings??? Hell no-- Justice will be done ---so it is about time to concentrate on following the rule of law and on getting these people back to work so they don't have so much leisure time to commit their own violent acts. That's not enough! It is important to realize that it is not just a few bad cops. It is about changing the system so that there is justice for all people and not only if someone had a camera running. It is necessary to confront the racism that has spread in the police force and also hold accountable those who enable it. Taking into account the police brutality against peaceful protestors (e.g. due the Trump photo op event), it is frightening how much the task of the police to protect the people and their rights has fallen out of the view. Here, too, there is clearly a systemic error. Especially if you consider that this was not the action of individual policemen but was ordered from above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hacıvat Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, happyone said: Then the SOB would have been arrested and will be tried for 2nd degree murder and other charges, just like this cop is--- Get off the repeated rhetoric about this dirty cop. Do you think that in the world it is only a few the police that are racists??? Hell no-- Do you think that only the police commit brutal acts against other human beings??? Hell no-- Justice will be done ---so it is about time to concentrate on following the rule of law and on getting these people back to work so they don't have so much leisure time to commit their own violent acts. On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, the heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, was shot and killed by a Serbian man . do you think the really reason of ww1(17 millions people were dead) was that asshole serbian.? Among the estimated 45-60 million people killed were 6 million Jews murdered in Nazi concentration camps as part of Hitler’s diabolical “Final Solution,” now known as the Holocaust. was asshole hitler the only reason of ww2? do you think the black people do these demonstrations only because of an asshole white police killed george floyd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Alladino said: That's not enough! It is important to realize that it is not just a few bad cops. It is about changing the system so that there is justice for all people and not only if someone had a camera running. It is necessary to confront the racism that has spread in the police force and also hold accountable those who enable it. Taking into account the police brutality against peaceful protestors (e.g. due the Trump photo op event), it is frightening how much the task of the police to protect the people and their rights has fallen out of the view. Here, too, there is clearly a systemic error. Especially if you consider that this was not the action of individual policemen but was ordered from above. Taking into account the unlawful rioting, vandalism, theft, and killing and harming police officers with objects, taking part of a city illegally---what are you going to do about that???? Absolutely correct, the police take orders from the mayors and governors---time to get rid of the Democrats in power, the majority of where this is taking place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, hacıvat said: On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, the heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, was shot and killed by a Serbian man . do you think the really reason of ww1(17 millions people were dead) was that asshole serbian.? Among the estimated 45-60 million people killed were 6 million Jews murdered in Nazi concentration camps as part of Hitler’s diabolical “Final Solution,” now known as the Holocaust. was asshole hitler the only reason of ww2? do you think the black do these demonstrations only because of death of george floyd? It is not only blacks who are demonstrating --I see all races. However, the demonstrations never were only about the death of George Floyd--it is the agenda of the left to take away the rule of law and promote anarchy to destroy the USA and remold it into a Socialist State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, happyone said: Taking into account the unlawful rioting, vandalism, theft, and killing and harming police officers with objects, taking part of a city illegally---what are you going to do about that???? Absolutely correct, the police take orders from the mayors and governors---time to get rid of the Democrats in power, the majority of where this is taking place. Yeah, sure, Trump had nothing to do with it. 😒 The wrong behaviour of some does not mean that the rights of all protestors are invalidated. The police must protect the rights of peaceful demonstrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hacıvat Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, happyone said: It is not only blacks who are demonstrating --I see all races. However, the demonstrations never were only about the death of George Floyd--it is the agenda of the left to take away the rule of law and promote anarchy to destroy the USA and remold it into a Socialist State. Isn't it the duty of the us state to remove the violent demonstrators from the peacefully demonstrators and prevent anarchy and violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hacıvat Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, happyone said: It is not only blacks who are demonstrating --I see all races. However, the demonstrations never were only about the death of George Floyd--it is the agenda of the left to take away the rule of law and promote anarchy to destroy the USA and remold it into a Socialist State. ı do not mean who have different agendas domestic terrorists or antifa. do you think the sincere peaceful patriot black people do these demonstrations only because of an asshole white police killed george floyd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, hacıvat said: ı do not mean who have different agendas domestic terrorists or antifa. do you think the sincere peaceful patriot black people do these demonstrations only because of an asshole white police killed george floyd? I think that the killing of George Floyd was the catalyst and the purpose of the peaceful demonstrations, if the majority of the signs meant anything, was "Justice for George Floyd" Now that the offender and the other cops have been arrested, justice will prevail. But now, the ongoing protests have been taken over by those who want to totally defund and disband the police departments, and the taking over of Seattle Washington is by nothing more than anarcists--Antifa and similar domestic US terrorists. That, together with the rioting , pillaging, theft and killing of persons trying to protect property, as IMO detracted from the original good intent of the BLM protest which again was justice for Floyd.---Of course, we all want changes to the police forces that weed out and eliminate the bad apples in those organizations. It does not detract, however, from the fact that most of the police forces that are in need of the most serious reform are in cities all run or governed by the left and Democrats, who themselves need to be replaced in order to affect proper reform and more well being in those cities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, hacıvat said: Isn't it the duty of the us state to remove the violent demonstrators from the peacefully demonstrators and prevent anarchy and violence? Yes, it is. Those persons who are in charge of the cities so affected, have shirked their responsibilities and have caved to the anarchy and violence--and some of them even condone such behavior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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