Boycott to RLC following most recent access and watch policy changes

[tsuigou]

2 hours ago, itohkata said:

It's not that we don't understand your point, it's the fact that it's a stupid point, and that you are full of shit. 

Either they are right, and that's a good business decision, and your opinion weight nothing.

Or that's a stupid decision and time will make them change it and so you have to wait it out.

Grow up, kid, and stop throwing tantrums because you're frustrated by something. 

The point is actually not stupid at all and definitely valid from the perspective of a potential new subscriber. Existing subscribers aren't affected whatsoever, but nobody in their right mind would buy something with absolutely no clue what product they're buying. And I'm sure there's ways to see the type of content available, but given that participants switch out, anyone who isn't already subscribed has no idea if any of the current participants are what they look for.

I've subbed before but atm there's nobody available who I would pay money to see. And without the free cams or at least a list of names I have no inclination to resub.

That said, asking people to cancel their active subscription is stupid. RLC will find out what a dumb move this is all on their own in due time.

[BlackLeone]

I mostly watch for free, yes. Have subbed a few times, but never for a long period of time. My take on this is that as a website/company, RLC absolutely HAS to have free cams available. Even if it's just 1 to 3 per appartment.

For 3 reasons mainly.

1. Transparency. As someone stated before. People need to know what they're buying before buying it. It's just good and open communication. People get an idea of what goes on, what the quality of the cameras is, et cetera. It's more honest with some free cams.

2. Publicity. Having a few free cams is good as a 'teaser', to give people an idea. If people check this and occasionally see a naked lady, they will know better what they are paying for and they will be more eager to pay. I remember getting my first subscription back in the days of Nina & Kira, just because I thought Kira was cute and I wanted to see more of her. But if I hadn't had those free cams and that first impression, I never would have gotten a subscription.

3. FOMO. By having some free cams and a lot of blurred cameras, you show people what they miss out on. So you create FOMO ("fear of missing out"): people are scared they will miss the good stuff, so when they see what they miss, they will buy subscriptions to avoid missing it in the future. (My 2nd or 3rd subscription was because of this; I had never seen Martina shower and saw that happening on blurred camera, so got a subscription.)

And yes, you will get a few leechers, so what.

[itohkata]

18 minutes ago, tsuigou said:

That said, asking people to cancel their active subscription is stupid. RLC will find out what a dumb move this is all on their own in due time.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

[costa049]

4 hours ago, tFighterPilot said:

As a freeloader myself, what you're saying makes no sense. Yes, this change is bad for us, freeloaders, and might decrease the number of new subscribers, but it has absolutely no effect on existing subscribers. Why should they stop their subscription? This is a legitimate business decision by RLC, whether it's good or bad for their business.

I understand your point, but the issue isn't just about existing subscribers. It’s about long-term trust and sustainability. By cutting off free previews and cams, new users are forced to commit without knowing what they're getting, which can lead to higher churn and overall dissatisfaction. It's not simply about being a freeloader; it's about demanding transparency and fair value for everyone. Our collective pressure could encourage RLC to reconsider their strategy, benefiting both current and future users.

[costa049]

5 hours ago, tsuigou said:

The point is actually not stupid at all and definitely valid from the perspective of a potential new subscriber. Existing subscribers aren't affected whatsoever, but nobody in their right mind would buy something with absolutely no clue what product they're buying. And I'm sure there's ways to see the type of content available, but given that participants switch out, anyone who isn't already subscribed has no idea if any of the current participants are what they look for.

I've subbed before but atm there's nobody available who I would pay money to see. And without the free cams or at least a list of names I have no inclination to resub.

That said, asking people to cancel their active subscription is stupid. RLC will find out what a dumb move this is all on their own in due time.

Even though I agree with almost everything you said, when it comes to existing subscribers they are affected in a couple of key ways. First, when their subscription expires, and in case they don't want to renew it at that time, they lose any benefit of a free cam and preview, meaning they'll be forced to re-sub without having a chance to evaluate the service again. This change makes it harder for them to decide whether to continue, especially if the quality or value of the content is in question, like new features or feature/ design changes in the site and new streaming equipment or current equipment changes, moves with current and/ or known participants, new houses and/ or new participants, including house renovations, some of which you rightly mentioned.

Second, existing subscribers carry significant influence. Their unified voice and feedback can add weight to the push for a fairer preview system. If enough current users express dissatisfaction with these changes, it can send a strong message to RLC that this business model might not be sustainable in the long run. All the more so taking into account RLC has a historic of hardly listenning to individual feedback.

In short, it's not just about the immediate cost. It's about ensuring long-term value and trust in the service for everyone.
 

[costa049]

On 2/13/2025 at 1:08 AM, maxfactor said:

A boycott? WTF...so people can watch for free?  People who do not sub just need to stop going to the website...period.  RLC will find out what a dumb idea this is soon enough. 

As I mentioned earlier, if you can't see what you're buying, then you're not going to sub.  RLC clearly is trying to force people to sub and...I think they are trying to play hide the weenie with their shit content.  They have lost control of what these sub par participants are willing to do...Jessie.  Harley will do fuck all except fill the couch and the rest will do nothing except pose. 

Noldus puts out statistics for RLC every month.  It measures traffic...not subs.  If the traffic drops of because guys are not going there to look at the freecams, then I guess we will have a pretty good idea of what their actual "subscription traffic" looks like.

STOP GOING THERE IF YOU DO NOT SUB.

Ok, let me try to put it a bit differently. The point isn’t about free riding it's about transparency, fairness and trust, and quality user experience overall. Without free previews, new users have no way to evaluate the service before subscribing, which ultimately hurts everyone, including current subscribers when it's time to renew. We're not trying to force free viewing, we're demanding a fair chance to assess what we’re paying for. Not to meantion the matter of the publicity and FOMO as BlackLeone also rightly mentioned.

[Detrez]

7 hours ago, costa049 said:

Ok, let me try to put it a bit differently. The point isn’t about free riding it's about transparency, faireness and trust, and quality user experience overall. Without free previews, new users have no way to evaluate the service before subscribing, which ultimately hurts everyone, including current subscribers when it's time to renew. We're not trying to force free viewing, we're demanding a fair chance to assess what we’re paying for. Not to meantion the matter of the publicity and FOMO as BlackLeone also rightly mentioned.

Question for you Costa, how many times have you subscribed?  

[costa049]

11 hours ago, Detrez said:

Question for you Costa, how many times have you subscribed?  

I have subscribed for 9 times, which makes me care even more. I know what the service offers, and I also know that without a proper preview, new users are being asked to pay blindly. It’s not just about getting people to subscribe, it’s about making sure they know what they’re paying for and that the service remains worth it over time.

[switch]

I contacted the RLC support 2 days ago and sure I have not receive an answer they prefer stay in the silence 😄

they have removed the 7 days deal also

I will continue to read the forum just by curiosity but that's all for me

not very interested by all the recent updates for my part

[costa049]

18 hours ago, switch said:

I contacted the RLC support 2 days ago and sure I have not receive an answer they prefer stay in the silence 😄

they have removed the 7 days deal also

I will continue to read the forum just by curiosity but that's all for me

not very interested by all the recent updates for my part

Their silence speaks volumes. Removing the 7-day deal just makes it even harder for potential subscribers to try the service without a big commitment. Looks like they’re doubling down on bad decisions. I get why you’re losing interest, these recent changes aren’t exactly encouraging. But we need to demand transparency, fair access, and a system that truly benefits all of us. We all can and must make this change with our voice. 

[costa049]

Even if some insist that the boycott won’t affect RLC’s bottom line or current subscribers right now, or even that it is stupid to ask for something like this, the problem runs deeper. The removal of free previews erodes the transparency that should be central to any subscription service. Without a clear view of what you’re buying, even current and/ or long-term subscribers face uncertainty at renewal time, especially after taking a sub break. And this gets even worse without more attractive deals anymore, like the 7-day one.

Plus, the fact that RLC's (still) own exclusive houses didn't transit to the new site (XLIFE), which has most of the houses from RLC and is being advertised in RLC's paywall banner, only reinforces the inconsistency in their approach, even with deals between the two sites, which are highly questionable for the obvious reasons.

When enough people speak up, it adds up over time. If subs continue to accept poor practices without raising awareness, RLC won't feel the need to change. We're not trying to punish RLC. Boycotting is telling them that their system is not sustainable for the future. Current subs and newcomers alike deserve better. By acting now, we can at least start to shift the conversation and make our voices heard, which could lead for a more sustainable service for everyone. 

[itohkata]

I'll start with the TL;DR : you're still full of shit and try to make your tantrum pass as a selfless action.

On 2/15/2025 at 5:30 PM, costa049 said:

Even if some insist that the boycott won’t affect RLC’s bottom line or current subscribers right now, or even that it is stupid to ask for something like this, the problem runs deeper. The removal of free previews erodes the transparency that should be central to any subscription service. Without a clear view of what you’re buying, even current and/ or long-term subscribers face uncertainty at renewal time, especially after taking a sub break. And this gets even worse without more attractive deals anymore, like the 7-day one.

That's simpler than that : RLC sells subscription. Visitors buys subscription. 

• you don't like the lack of transparency : you don't subscribe
• you don't like or are not sure that you will like the content : you don't subscribe
• you think that's too expensive : you don't subscribe
• any other fucking reason you can think of : you don't subscribe.

There is now only ONE metric that they are interested in : subscription. Don't tell those people who have been running this very business for more than 10 years how they should run it. You know shit about that. They do. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but it's a stupid one. You might aswell give us your opinion on how to terraform mars or build a submarine that will fare better than those of OceanGate.

FFS dude, what makes you think they give a shit about transparency ? That's a website, offering (some or only depending on you view) porn content, ran behind a shell company, run by expats, mostly exploiting desperate people so that other people can pay, with a customer service that answers when they feel like it, same as the update on departure/arrival, places disappearing, etc. There is literaly 0 quality of service. They don't give a fuck about subscribers, so freeloaders and wanabee subs ? Come on... 

On 2/15/2025 at 5:30 PM, costa049 said:

Plus, the fact that RLC's (still) own exclusive houses didn't transit to the new site (XLIFE), which has most of the houses from RLC and is being advertised in RLC's paywall banner, only reinforces the inconsistency in their approach, even with deals between the two sites, which are highly questionable for the obvious reasons.

There is nothing that RLC owns. Click Here Ltd, the company that owns RLC, owns XLIFE. That's their brands (and not even registered it seems). The only thing that could prevent them from doing anything with anything else is the piece of paper that pass as a contract that ties them with the people on cam.

And WTF does that empty phrase I emphasized mean ? you were short of arguments but that sounded good in your head ? Cross site deals have existed since the beginning of the commercial internet, and was transposed from what was happening in B&M stores. 

  

On 2/15/2025 at 5:30 PM, costa049 said:

When enough people speak up, it adds up over time. If subs continue to accept poor practices without raising awareness, RLC won't feel the need to change. We're not trying to punish RLC. Boycotting is telling them that their system is not sustainable for the future. Current subs and newcomers alike deserve better. By acting now, we can at least start to shift the conversation and make our voices heard, which could lead for a more sustainable service for everyone. 

That's not nike or adidas or whatever true legitimate brand you can think of dude... They don't give a shit about PR. They don't advertise.

They fucking don't need you to tell them anything. They are the only one that may judge what is sustainable or not. How delusional can you be ? 

And that last phrase, who gave you that ? Chat GPT ? Or did you copypasted it from something that has nothing to do with RLC ?