Epikouros Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Il y a 6 heures, Maxbell a dit : Yeah, and it doesn't apply to gay men either. True. Meaning it could pay off to pretend to be gay sometimes. 🙂 Then again, it probably only applies to gay men they already know... 1
Epikouros Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Il y a 6 heures, Maxbell a dit : Lol, I can never figure that out. Women are so emotionally motivated and we guys are like donkeys with boners. So understanding lesbians is way beyond our pay-grades. 😄 Then again, if men stared (or worse: harassed or made stupid remarks) a bit less, girls would be way less prudish (judging by how they interact without any guys around)... It's a few boneheads spoiling things for the rest of us!... 1
Maxbell Posted July 27 Posted July 27 26 minutes ago, Epikouros said: Then again, if men stared (or worse: harassed or made stupid remarks) a bit less, girls would be way less prudish (judging by how they interact without any guys around)... It's a few boneheads spoiling things for the rest of us!... I’m not sure if it’s that simple, I know if the girl thinks you’re “hot”, the rules change. Who knows? 🤷♂️ As for pretending to be gay? Don’t think I haven’t thought of that angle, but it could back fire 😆 2
Xarvaz Posted July 28 Posted July 28 10 hours ago, Epikouros said: Then again, if men stared (or worse: harassed or made stupid remarks) a bit less, girls would be way less prudish (judging by how they interact without any guys around)... It's a few boneheads spoiling things for the rest of us!... On the other hand, girls without boys seem completely uninspired and don't get much further than staring at their phones in bed. Just look at what Chilli does without her harem master... absolutely nothing. And also notice the change in Annette when there's a boy in the house, and what's left of Madison without her boyfriend? Girls alone are absolutely boring
Epikouros Posted July 28 Posted July 28 il y a 12 minutes, Xarvaz a dit : On the other hand, girls without boys seem completely uninspired and don't get much further than staring at their phones in bed. Just look at what Chilli does without her harem master... absolutely nothing. And also notice the change in Annette when there's a boy in the house, and what's left of Madison without her boyfriend? Girls alone are absolutely boring I was talking about girls in general, i.e. "actual" real life, not about the girls on Reallifecam (especially the current cast). Also about when they get together with other girls & not when alone. And thus, by extension, also about actual real life men (some of them boneheads), and not those on CC or RLC.
Epikouros Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Il y a 9 heures, Maxbell a dit : I’m not sure if it’s that simple, I know if the girl thinks you’re “hot”, the rules change. Who knows? 🤷♂️ As for pretending to be gay? Don’t think I haven’t thought of that angle, but it could back fire 😆 You're talking from experience, then? 😏 1
Xarvaz Posted July 28 Posted July 28 20 minutes ago, Epikouros said: I was talking about girls in general, i.e. "actual" real life, not about the girls on Reallifecam (especially the current cast). Also about when they get together with other girls & not when alone. And thus, by extension, also about actual real life men (some of them boneheads), and not those on CC or RLC. Girls in real life aren't all that different. Because of my work, I'm surrounded by many girls between the ages of 16 and 20 every day, and without boys, they lie in dance halls or theaters staring at their phones. It only comes alive when groups of boys join in. I'm talking about a campus with around 11000 young people so I see their behavior daily (at least when I don't have to work on the network at night) 1
Epikouros Posted July 28 Posted July 28 il y a 13 minutes, Xarvaz a dit : Girls in real life aren't all that different. Because of my work, I'm surrounded by many girls between the ages of 16 and 20 every day, and without boys, they lie in dance halls or theaters staring at their phones. It only comes alive when groups of boys join in. I'm talking about a campus with around 11000 young people so I see their behavior daily (at least when I don't have to work on the network at night) I think it depends on context, and the meta-culture surrounding them (there are lots of differences even within Western culture). At the lake near me (Western Europe), groups of girls disappear in the bushes to pee or to change together having lots of fun (without boys), some groups of girls even go swimming topless or nude (tanning topless too). When guys, even just a single guy (that they know) show up, very often they cover up again... Luckily they usually don't mind me, but also don't know me anyway, except for a few cute (& sometimes nude* 🙂 ) young hippie girls. *Nude or at least topless when it's not too busy.
Xarvaz Posted July 28 Posted July 28 4 minutes ago, Epikouros said: I think it depends on context, and the meta-culture surrounding them (there are lots of differences even within Western culture). At the lake near me (Western Europe), groups of girls disappear in the bushes to pee or to change together having lots of fun (without boys), some groups of girls even go swimming topless or nude (tanning topless too). When guys, even just a single guy (that they know) show up, very often they cover up again... Luckily they usually don't mind me, but also don't know me anyway, except for a few cute (& sometimes nude* 🙂 ) young hippie girls. *Nude or at least topless when it's not too busy. very different from what I see every day, being naked is very normal in the theater and dance world and they never cover up when I'm around, I think that as an old sock I am part of the furniture and harmless 😁, the changing toilet and bathing areas at our school are genderless which is misleading since the boys are almost all gay 🤪 1
Epikouros Posted July 28 Posted July 28 il y a 40 minutes, Xarvaz a dit : very different from what I see every day, being naked is very normal in the theater and dance world and they never cover up when I'm around, I think that as an old sock I am part of the furniture and harmless 😁, the changing toilet and bathing areas at our school are genderless which is misleading since the boys are almost all gay 🤪 I want your job! 😉 Indeed, when it's gay guys that join the girls, they have less tendency to cover up. But once it gets busier they often do so anyway... This was less the case during the 80s, 90s & early 2000s (gen X, like me), when being topless was a lot more widespread & considered normal, boys present or not. This changed around 2005, when the atmosphere became more prudish with the milennial generation Y. 2010 to 2015 it seemed being topless had almost completely died out. Since 2016 & a bit more post-covid (Gen Z girls are less prude again, but somewhat afraid to show it, they also need to start from zero again) it's making a very slow comeback (even with a bit of nudity for swimming thrown in, though rarely, which is kinda new except at night). But this is really happening at a snail's pace. We're still far from where we were during the nineties when sometimes half of the girls present were topless (college town, so often young & pretty! 🙂 ). On the other hand, the bottoms they wear nowadays are A LOT smaller than those back in the 1990s. Back then it was more unusual (& considered more "risqué"!) to see a small thong than to see bare boobs, while now, it seems to be the other way around... In short, if you're an "ass man", it's better now; while if you're more of a "boobs man", it was better back in the 80s, 90s & early 2000s. I'm "both ass & boobs" man, so I'm hoping the good topless times come back, without the bikini bottoms getting larger again! 😉 Anyway, off to Portugal soon, where (depending on where you go: the further from town centres the better) beach dress codes tend to be more liberated than in most tourist's home towns - or maybe it's just because no one knows them there anyway, so they have more of a "let it all hang out" attitude! 😉 PS: are you in the US? UK? Somewhere in Europe? Somewhere else?... I just like to have an idea about the nudity mores everywhere. 1
Xarvaz Posted July 28 Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Epikouros said: I want your job! 😉 Indeed, when it's gay guys that join the girls, they have less tendency to cover up. But once it gets busier they often do so anyway... This was less the case during the 80s, 90s & early 2000s (gen X, like me), when being topless was a lot more widespread & considered normal, boys present or not. This changed around 2005, when the atmosphere became more prudish with the milennial generation Y. 2010 to 2015 it seemed being topless had almost completely died out. Since 2016 & a bit more post-covid (Gen Z girls are less prude again, but somewhat afraid to show it, they also need to start from zero again) it's making a very slow comeback (even with a bit of nudity for swimming thrown in, though rarely, which is kinda new except at night). But this is really happening at a snail's pace. We're still far from where we were during the nineties when sometimes half of the girls present were topless (college town, so often young & pretty! 🙂 ). On the other hand, the bottoms they wear nowadays are A LOT smaller than those back in the 1990s. Back then it was more unusual (& considered more "risqué"!) to see a small thong than to see bare boobs, while now, it seems to be the other way around... In short, if you're an "ass man", it's better now; while if you're more of a "boobs man", it was better back in the 80s, 90s & early 2000s. I'm "both ass & boobs" man, so I'm hoping the good topless times come back, without the bikini bottoms getting larger again! 😉 Anyway, off to Portugal soon, where (depending on where you go: the further from town centres the better) beach dress codes tend to be more liberated than in most tourist's home towns - or maybe it's just because no one knows them there anyway, so they have more of a "let it all hang out" attitude! 😉 PS: are you in the US? UK? Somewhere in Europe? Somewhere else?... I just like to have an idea about the nudity mores everywhere. I am Dutch and there (sometimes unfortunately 🙄) everything should be possible (I want your job!) lol well I'm actually an IT guy but I also give defense workshops to those kids, I'm actually already retired but I do it for free now ( there are worse ways to spend your time 😁) 1 1
Epikouros Posted July 28 Posted July 28 Il y a 2 heures, Xarvaz a dit : I am Dutch and there (sometimes unfortunately 🙄) everything should be possible (I want your job!) lol well I'm actually an IT guy but I also give defense workshops to those kids, I'm actually already retired but I do it for free now ( there are worse ways to spend your time 😁) I'm not too far from you then. Different country though: your southern neighbour Belgium, with often a bit more of a conservative mentality regarding nudity unfortunately (not against nudity per se, but not daring to get nude themselves either, & migrants being more conservative & starting to visit the lake more also doesn't help - generalising here, in both of my statements). Luckily the city where I live is among the bigger in the country, and has a lot of students & young people. Among them art students, and they are indeed among the least prude when going to the lake. The city atmosphere is also way less uptight than most other places in the country. The Dutch "anything goes" reputation your country enjoys with us stems from the 1970s, 80s & 90s, and indeed even then The Netherlands had a reputation in my country for being a lot more relaxed regarding nudity. It still lingers, though I heard it's getting more prude as well, and the reputation it had was probably mostly caused by the big cities. I'm guessing your "Bible Belt" (The Netherlands has one!) is more conservative than the Belgian countryside. Also, the Belgians are more hypocrite than the Dutch: too prude to go nude or topless near where they live, work or study, but far away on vacation in Southern Europe, Berlin, etc... where more people do it and no one knows them, they have far less trouble getting their clothes or top off! 😉 Though some really need time to get used to it first. And about wanting your job: unfortunately I don't know the slightest thing about IT... But would still like to be part of the furniture on your campus!... Heck, I wouldn't even have to subscribe to RLC!... 😉 2
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