MrBox Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Beancounter, I agree with you. I mean let's be real here. VV is not a reality show (although most of them are fake also). It is not very spontaneous. And whether we like it or not, there will be nudity and sex here. Otherwise, people can stay with rlc. And you have gotten good answers from VV lately by not asking all the time. I admit I diluted my impact earlier by sending many tweets. I have basically stopped doing it. Other people get more responses so I delegate to others. And I agree that while VV can't require in a contract that they have sex or show nudity (yes, snaky, that would be sexual harrassment if done only to the women), in practice they probably orally discuss these things with them. And let's face it, many have failed and been booted out because they wouldn't have sex (remember Phil refusing to have sex further with Christy and rejecting many girls, or Messa with his sexual "issues"). It may not be fair or what we want, but it is the way it is. And no, it isn't just because we complain. Long before I started complaining, VV was booting out many people because they didn't "work out". It is what they want at VV for their site. If we don't like it, we can complain or seek other sites. And the fact that VV listens to us at times, isn't a totally bad thing. A company that listens to its customers (called customer service) is better than one that never does. RLC never listens for instance. It is frightening that although the current guests are extremely personable I find almost only negativ comments about them. ... The key impressions I recognize in this thread is that everything is focused on sex. It is no wonder that VV tried to fulfill exactly this. Ultimately that result in the employment of porn actors. Unfortunately, these have learned to separate emotions from sex to do it as a job and therfore it not really exciting to watch. Did you notice porn couple had two types of sex? The real one with blanket and the porno one without. This difference shows best what I meant. ... Sex is not exciting to watch? ... That's actually wrong. Of course, it's interesting, otherwise there would not be so much porn on the internet. But to produce porn is not worth the effort which is operated here. ... To make it worth, it need to be something real. I think, VV urgently needs normal people like the current guests and it is a pity that no one here recognize that, because this means that also VV can not see this. The booting out of people is the main issue i have with VV, because so many nice people are gone because of that, even if there were willing for nudity and sex (24/7 sex is simply to much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I like to believe that the more mature taste is in the anticipation. It like the difference between an alluring ensemble and one that is just crass. If for instance these people were to stay a while and gradually warmed up to the cameras, that would be for me, far more exciting. I would also not mind at all if they had more variety like RLC. Not all the women have to have perfect bodies and be 10's ...well 7-8's. Appreciation of women is like the fact that some people can appreciate fine wines, others never get past beer. (metaphor) I don't drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavurkel Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 MrBox Sex doesn't cause the house to watch. This is an voyeur home. Voyeur why natural lives. Watch something different. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natres Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 it bluntly, there is no money for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I have to confess that I can keep up with the languages and translations most of the time, but there are other times when I feel like a code breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavurkel Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 it bluntly, there is no money for it Get the hell out is no longer enough..... :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: :curse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBox Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 MrBox Sex doesn't cause the house to watch. This is an voyeur home. Voyeur why natural lives. Watch something different. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) I know what VV now is. I wrote what it could be. .... Did you also have an argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavurkel Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I understand you mrbox. :idk: :idk: :idk: :idk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noldus Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 video from tonight's action between Petra and Nikky's thread Tver Video 2016 :yeahbaby: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natres Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 the film is over, now turning poker :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Mr. Box, I often agree with many of your posts, although i don't totally agree here. I think the biggest problem here with the party group is first that they all knew each other which means no surprises, what already has happened to them will continue (and obviously no one is attracted to each other except for one couple and they won't do it in front of the cameras, which is their right I guess since they are only guests), and second that they only play boring games nothing exciting. Why do we want to watch poker games all the time? I can watch world series of poker on cable. It is isn't that they are bad people or unattractive. Just not right for the project long term. I agree that constant booting out of people is part of the problem here. What like 30-40 people in like 4 months? And many good people have been booted including some of my favorites. The only thing I don't agree with and I hear this a lot, is that we who want sex cause the whole problem. VV was like that long before I or others joined. Don't blame the "victim" as they say. We are all the victims of their crazy scripted sex site, not the bad guys! VV makes their own decisions, not us. They decided to hire porn stars to spice up interest, get more subscribers, not to keep the ones they had. I didn't ask for porn stars. I liked Christy and Phil and Dizi and Tanya and Akira. I didn't want most of them to be booted! Phil was my favorite. I liked Dizi. I liked Sonia with Phil. I loved Charlie with Akira. What happened with all of these people? All are gone except Sonia, now with Ivo. They had plenty of sex then. VV ticks and tacks like a drunken sailor and we are to blame? BTW, this rant is not directed at you, Mr. Box. I just wanted others to know that we are not to blame, VV is to blame!! We just want to have some fun. This site is sooooo off the rails!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1010 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I do admit that I do like seeing Nikky in Voro with the group sometimes as she acts more like a normal 19 year old. Maybe I wouldn't mind these people as much if there was any variance in them like different games, doing sexy games (although it wouldn't work because they aren't sexy and there are almost no attractions there). Couldn't Nikky make it with the heavyset guy? He likes her and she likes him a bit. I guess there is no physical attraction there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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