I must be and idiot , I use ocam to record it then crop it then post it at the Attachment center and been doing that for 3 years here and no complaints , I don't understand why I have to go through all that to post here I know nothing BBcodes and isn't ocam the same as zippyshare, mab and zupimages ,etc. I do thank you for your comment but I must be dumb as a doornail I know very little about this .