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I don’t agree my friend. She has partied a lot on weekends during her studies. She could party with the other RLC girls if she wanted to and was attracted to them. But she does not. It has nothing to do with her studies. She has a set of friends outside of RLC that she has fun with. It could be a few RLC girls and they have fun off cam … but with the good number of investigative sleuths here, I would imagine someone would have connected the dots if Martina was hooking up and partying with other RLC girls. We quickly heard of her recent hook up with Nelly … so it isn’t that difficult for some of you.

Just checked in. Lots of excitement. This line made me wet.

OK well I AM talking to you Philo. Sorry to pick on you ... I am not singling you out really. I think we agree more than we disagree. But others do this too. They make a statement like this as if it was fact. Is this true? Did you hear this personally or was it reported here? Can anyone confirm hearing this? The reason I am skeptical is that you say Nelly said this in English. Often people say that "so-in-so used English"!!! so this is a fact!! Well, I watch a lot (less now than before but still) and I rarely ever hear any English. From anyone really. But mostly I never hear English from Martina. I have tried. Lord knows I have tried. JMAN knows how much I have tried. I actually wonder what is wrong with me. But I simply don't hear English. Not from Nelly and Martina. I did hear some English from Pam and her lovely boyfriend (what was his nickname?). The ONLY explanation I can think of is that with kids around I do not play this very loud. But then I got replay so I can review the tape at night at louder volumes. Still I don't hear English. Again not picking on you Philo. But I have read things here and have assumed they were the truth and have repeated them and used them in my logical arguments ... only to be told that it was hearsay. OK whatever. Again I really just want to understand the truth behind these incredible people on RLC ... especially my love, Martina. That's my 2 cents for today. That is what we should all be focused on (besides wanting to see incredible sex).

Wise advice.

If you are saying that Martina being on RLC with us having this CC platform causes us to critique and analyze and thoroughly examine every aspect of her amazing body and every detail of her exciting life … then YES we are in agreement!!

You should be careful Dalbert to not project your own sexual preferences and beliefs on others. You say her business dress has no sexual aspects. Yes of course for most people but for some people this can be amazingly erotic. The reason we have “business dress” is to have professionalism in the workplace. Wearing tight jeans and a sexy see through crop top to work or class would not be appropriate. Have you heard about librarian fantasies? Those are my fav. Nothing is sexier than a proper looking librarian with glasses who is all professional at work but when you get her home she is a total slut. I love that. Martina’s dress evokes that emotion in many of us … more than you perhaps think. You and others defend Martina anytime it is suggested she is not a “nice and normal pretty girl”. I actually love seeing this here. But her wearing this does not tell us anything except Martina is practical and won’t jeopardize her studies by dressing as a slut. And of course I don’t believe she is wearing this as part of some psychosexual role play. I’m sure we agree on this. We agree more than we disagree.

Thank you Dalbert. I also want to agree with your earlier post (I think it was you) that she is not an exhibitionist. I agree but the conversation has been fascinating and what this forum is about. Those who say you have to be a bit of an exhibitionist to be on RLC have a point. But also there is a POV that being nude is normal and natural and people are not shy about that which defines Martina. My contribution to this dialogue (not a discussion which implies winners and losers) is that I am disappointed when Martina masturbates on her tummy. I would think an exhibitionist would want to show others how turned on she is getting, how wet her pussy is, etc. Of course this may be a shy aspect for Martina but probably more likely she loves this position for bating. In this vein, Ulyana is more of an exhibitionist as she positions herself perfectly in front of the cam, spreads her legs super wide, and more or less announces to all of us “watch me fuck this wet cunt till I cum”. She reminds me of Pam this way but she is more open than Pam. We don’t see this type of behavior with our beloved Martina. But it would be so amazing if she surprised us one day.

Hey you guys are catching on! Seriously, is Martina that unpredictable? I’m not so sure. To me unpredictable is what we recently saw with Radi. But these last several pages of discussion is the forum at its best.

Wow. Yes. I believe so.

I like debating you because you are logical and evidence-based. Agree that Martina is not big into selfies. But then you contradict yourself a bit. A close friend asks for a selfie, someone who you are not attracted to, and you give that person a naked selfie??? Then you say "there is no doubt that Candela has a thing for Martina". What is the evidence for this? My understanding is that Candela has a difficult home life including perhaps abuse or I think we also discussed self-inflicted behaviors (e.g. cutting) and Martina and Alberto are "taking her under their wings" a bit. I have not been watching very closely of late but have not seen anything that shows me Candela has a thing for Martina. In fact, she has been shy and only recently opening up more.

I tend to agree with you here ... but you and I are not Martina ... we don't have cameras in our homes. We know she is very open about her body to the point of letting her brother watch her in the shower. So for me there could be other reasons for her to take nude selfies. Someone said I think she is a narcisist. I don't agree with this. But if she was, they love selfies!

I don't recall there being a lot of difference between Martina and Nelly when they made love, with regards to the "animalistic to affectionate" scale. They were both super into each other. They both took the lead at times and other times let the other pleasure them. Overall, I think Nelly was a little more alpha than Martina ... but it's close. I guess this leads to a discussion on "what is love?" ... which I'm sure NO ONE here wants me to dive into. You are either a believer that a person can have only one true love or you believe people can love multiple people. There are different forms of love. Seeing Martina and Alberto say "I love you" is very typical even if FWB ... you don't do FWB with your enemies ... only your closest friends. Again, sex with someone with no connection is just sex and you might as well pay for it at this point.

Exactly Dave! If we saw an FFM threesome with Martina and Alberto and another female … I would be the first person to admit that this relationship is more than FWB. To be precise, Martina wants ANOTHER bisexual affair. I am surprised you say you don’t know if you could handle this. This tells me you are quite invested in them. Nothing wrong with that but to me you are no different than Girlsfun or me … we each have our own views and speculations and I will admit I am invested. No one disputes this. I think the forum is best when we make evidence-based decisions on what we believe and what we speculate. Seeing something like a threesome would be new evidence that would change everything. I think for a couple to stay together long term and be loving, they have to explore these things together. My skepticism about Martina and Alberto is all based on Alberto letting Martina sow her wild oats without being a part of that. If I had a husband and we wanted to be swingers, it would have to be something we do together. I have to believe most all of you guys would agree with that. So yes a threesome would change everything. Like Radi’s guest tonight, this would be a monumental development … in fact it would make Radi’s fun tonight seem lame.

I love it! That should be my new slogan! I like saying “sometimes it’s magic, sometimes it’s tragic”. But I think I will just say “not every fuck is a masterpiece”. Again Dave … it’s not about the fucking. Agree their sex life is above average for a couple. Its the Nelly affair, the fact that our trusted translators tell us she wants another bisexual affair, and most importantly, her weekend all-nighters … those are the issues with this relationship (if it is more than FWB).

This is one of the most amazing posts ever. They say karma is a bitch. But if it helps Harley I am interested in the clip as well! Hope all is well Harley. I’ve noticed a kinder and gentler HFB. But I have not been on much (except for my heart throb Martina).

LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE AGREE ON!!!!

What amazes me about this forum is we can have mega-battles about COVID and the dangers of not wearing a mask or not being vaccinated … but I get the impression that everyone is 100% behind full anal sex and penetration. This to me is due to porn. In real life I simply don’t think full anal sex is that prevalent. And if you are not squeaky clean, it can be dangerous. I personally like anal play but don’t like anything further. It’s too painful and if you don’t go slow it can really hurt. I do think Martina is open to it but I can’t get that moment with Nelly where she waived her off. I think with a girl it might be OK from a pain perspective. If they do it on cam that would be awesome. But they should start with perhaps a cleansing step (enema, colonic) which would kind of be interesting to capture on cam. I assume as long as Martina and Alberto wore a mask, they could do anal sex and everyone here would be happy! Just having fun!!

I know I just applauded you for defending them and I do stand by that. But I can’t let this go. We have video evidence that sometimes she gets frustrated. There was the time he ejaculated and left per usual and she begged him to come back and I believe our translators told us she asked why he leaves right away. Of course we also know she goes out seeking sex beyond Alberto … if only Nelly bring verifiable. This seems to me to be her saying the sex with Alberto is not amazing. Again, for an FWB relationship, the sex is more than acceptable. I do wish she could talk to us about what she is feeling and thinking. Deepdave could be perfectly correct that this is a solid couple that just behaves differently from expected norms, etc. That’s my two cents. Now @Adalbert can respond with his frustration on how we are constantly grading their sex as if we were some sort of McKinsey experts. Love you Bert!

We don’t agree on a lot Deep but you know I respect you. It is touching how much you defend this couple. This is not sarcasm.

Kind of depressing sitting here on a Saturday night having these deep thoughts instead of being in bed naked with someone special … but STN it’s interesting you bring up Kitty and Smith. They seem to be getting along better although I am not following them very closely. But maybe they too are nothing more than FWB. Think about it … if you are in love with your soul mate … committed relationship … would you join RLC? I am asking in all seriousness because sadly I have not yet found that type of relationship. I think I am very open person and there was a time I might entertain something like RLC but honestly not with someone who I cared for as a soul mate. But I know not of what I am saying. To all the married folks out there and committed couples … is there any chance you would ever do RLC? Especially if you planned to have kids? Or have kids maybe grown up and are empty nesters. What makes a relationship special is the intimacy between two people and not sure how you become intimate when you are on the internet. This nice cab I am drinking is causing me to reflect on all of this. Good night (but I may not be done yet!)

Thank you Ashley. Agree that Alberto does not rock her world so even as FWB she seems to tolerate a lot from Alberto sexually. But I do assume she cums often enough (especially when she masturbates herself along with him). We know she loves sex and people who do love sex enjoy it even if they don’t cum all the time. But more importantly, this relationship is tied to RLC and that causes her to tolerate his lovemaking even more. Finally, we bash Alberto a lot but other than the sex he is a perfect partner in many many ways. He supports her unconditionally starting with her school work and her partying and even including her bisexual urges. He cooks and cleans, what’s not to like? So to me I think she has ample reasons to not expect him to rock her world if this is FWB. But if this is a real committed relationship, then yes she should help guide Alberto to be a better lover.

Everyone is different Yelt. Some girls like to be dominant and others like to be submissive. More importantly, most girls have different moods at different times and like to vary their approach … sometimes being more dominant other times being quite submissive. Martina seems mostly in the middle of this spectrum. She seems to be in control of herself and won’t let others tell her what she can or cannot do. But as we have seem with Alberto and Nelly … she seems to like her lover taking control during sex. I do subscribe to the theory that if your lover is not pleasuring you then why aren’t you helping them learn how to push your buttons. But for a lot of girls, we want our partner to sweep us off our feet and make us cum … it reinforces that they love me and care more about my pleasure than their own. The fact that Martina does not show Alberto how to make her cum is more evidence to me that this is just a FWB relationship. Why bother? If they were engaged and committed then it would make more sense to help your partner learn how to help you cum. For FWB it’s almost as if they are just trying to get off. FWB sex is not that different than using a dildo or vibrator. The emotion and personal connection is missing. Some here think I am wrong about FWB because we see Alberto and Martina being close and cuddly and enjoy being around each other. OF COURSE THEY DO. A true FWB must at least have a close friendship … otherwise you might just hire a hooker. But an FWB relationship is just that and it seems clear to me that Martina does not view this lasting long term and Alberto doesn’t even seem to think beyond 1 week out. Of course it could all change. Many love stories occur by people who wake up one day and realize their soul mate is right under their nose.

I said I would try to stop but I can't pass up on Omeda's bombshell.

OK so here we go. We are told we need to trust our valuable translators as they guide us, we should never question them. And believe me, I do trust them and think they provide invaluable service ... even though sometimes I am skeptical. There are those here who think Martina and Alberto are rock solid and she strayed with Nelly but she adores Alberto and nothing can come between them. If Omeda is correct, what are the implications to everyone's speculations??

Do you really believe this? Lots of committed loving couples make love after drinking and perhaps drugs. It helps get people into the mood. Married couples might be stressed from jobs and kids but after a couple of cocktails ... they make love. They LOVE each other but the alcohol allows their love to cut through all the stress and noise. It is quite possible this is what we are seeing with Nelly and Martina. They both know what they are doing is wrong. If sober, they will try to be true to their men, etc. But a bit of alcohol allows their true love to emerge. You seem to be saying that only people who fuck sober truly love each other. I don't think you mean that. Exactly. Martina visited the Villa because of Nelly because she loved Nelly and perhaps still does. You are contradicting yourself my good friend. If she continued to visit the Villa after Nelly's departure, you might convince me her love for Nelly is not there. DDHM suggested Martina's first interest was Holly. So why not visit Holly, especially if she still wants bisexual experiences? I believe the answer to this is that she loves Nelly and won't cheat on her with Holly ... not until at least the flame between Martina/Nelly has flamed out. So before anyone attacks me for violating the break from action I just talked about ... this technically is the post that apparently got lost overnight!