JenniferMom

OK we agree. I think I misunderstood. All I was trying to say was for those who believe this was part of a huge master plan by Nelly and Bogdan ... "learning the language" is a good pre-text for getting the two together.

Misc ... I adore you but you are killing me. If you see someone hot, who may be say an emergency room nurse (for example), do you say "I'd love to meet you to have sex with you?" ... or do you flirt a bit and say "I'd like to hear more about your stories in the emergency room". 🙂

Good point. But if your POV is that RLC is nothing more than a different type of porn operation, then setting his bisexual wife up for some lucrative lesbian scenes is one thing. Settiing your wife up with a lover, is entirely something different. I thought early on we had some consensus that Bogdan was not happy with this in the beginning. Maybe the plan backfired.

Bob ... I think DD and EMNV are talking about how their relationship started ... who had the hots for who first, etc. They are not trying to explain why Nelly and Martina hooked up the other day in Martina's apartment with Alberto on the XBOX. When two people hook up and the vibe is perfect and they fall for each other ... do we ever really know who had the hots for who first? When both partners realize that this is clicking, it almost always is somewhat simultaneously, right? Yes I know everyone has a story about how a boy and girl or two girls or whatever ... where one says "I noticed you the first day I saw you at the kids first soccer game". In my last post I suggest if Nelly was eyeing Martina from afar, this is not that unbelievable. But @ddhm, sometimes when you bring this up you make it sound like Nelly was stalking Martina. I do not believe this to be the case. PS: Any references to meeting people at kids soccer games is entirely hypothetical and just for the purposes of illustration!

Here's the dilemma as I see it. Bob is not such a knob to be skeptical. I agree with redfan and believe @emnv is a treasure to us all. But his translations are the most valuable when he provides them in transcript mode ... showing what Martina says and what Alberta says, very specifically. I am not complaining that we don't see more of this as I believe it has to take a lot of time watching REPLAY to get this written down and then typed up for all of us. And based on what everyone says about the Catalan language, I assume even EMNV struggles to understand at times. But his most recent post, when he telling us the history of Nelly and Martina going back to Russia ... is a summary of what he has seen and heard over the last however many years this story has gone on. EMNV is awesome but he is human (I think 🙂) and all humans have blind spots and tell stories with slight slants that are shaped by our own biases. I am not disputing what EMNV has shared a few hours ago; however, I can see why others might be skeptical. And that's not to say some aspects of the story sound skeptical to us ... but put yourself in Nelly's shoes (how often do I say this?) and maybe it might make sense. You are Nelly working for a company that is moving operations to Barca and you have been watching a fellow employee who is super hot. You are excited you may get a chance to meet her. Anything could happen honestly. For me I try to focus on what I have seen since I have been here and I will defend my views zealously when those views are created by what my eyes have seen. But I must be honest and admit that what I think I remember seeing back in February may not be how I am imagining it today. We all shape history in slightly different ways. Bottom line, both girls are into each other, and that is all that matters going forward. Be a good voyeur and watch and enjoy.

What does this mean to be a cutter? Can you elaborate? Naive American here thought she just finished picking a lot of raspberries or roses. But yes it does not look good. I think see a lot of parallel scratches ... so a rosebush ain't going to be that accurate.

Did she take her painting with her?

I would never compare myself to the great Naga!

I know. Sarcasm is an art form.

Is that Marta?

This is actually quite cute and sexy. Would love to be with them right now. Is Pam doing a special "card" for Jordi? That is touching. But here's the thing, we all know how it is going to end. So while it seems to be a fun time, I don't think it's the kind of thing that drives up subscriptions. I coined the term "death march" when something is happening ... a party or something ... and we all feel like there is a chance for a hook up. This is not even a death march. Trying to not be negative, this is where DD outshines. Honestly it would be so hot if something came out of this tonight. Good news for all of you, I don't think you will be seeing a lot of posts from me regarding this one.

That we can agree on.

Jeepers I'm sitting here trying to solve of all of the world's problems (RLC, CC, Harley) ... and there is a big shindig going on in B2.

There it is. I knew this would come out of your mouth at some point. I don't disagree we are wired differently. I agree with the concepts presented in Men from Mars, Women from Venus. But although I am emotional, I think I have been extremely logical in postulating what we see here, and grounding my views and opinions in what we see on cam. Yet you are the one that trashes just about everyone with knee jerk reactions ... often hiding behind "I know someone who told me this or that". Yet if you want to believe that you are the more logical and less emotional one ... you are entitled to that. I was going to rake you over the coals for this one ... but I was outside taking a short walk ... and decided to rationally and logically avoid that kind of emotional outburst! Enjoy your day.

I’ll drag your ass over the coals but not for this. You are entitled to your opinion regarding sports talk vs porn talk. But again, if this is so bad, why are you here? No need to answer. It’s been asked 100’s of times … and we all know you are not going away.

Now there's a crazy set of partners for you!

ONE MORE POINT HARLEY (On a roll this morning): Do you listen to sports TALK radio? Almost every guy in my life does. They talk about that incessantly. What's the difference????

BTW if RLC were to buy CC and fuck it up, someone would start a new CC for us. Maybe DD would do this.

Or he could do it 100% with just emoji's!!! What's fascinating to me is the different perspectives and POV's. I like DD for many reasons but mostly because I think he may be the purest voyeur here. At least he thinks he is and that is good enough honestly. I love his passion for voyeurism. I never knew how to even spell voyeur before I came here and now I are one. He is also a complete and unabashed optimist which drives us all crazy ... but don't need to shit on him ... relax, sip some wine, or coffee in the morning, and enjoy seeing someone be so passionate about something.

Yes of course Miscellaneous Voyeur (always loved that screen name .. what exactly is the meaning?). You make a good point. You would screw it up. You would think these people would learn. Look at social media ... people are dropping it like flies once the censoring started.

What is wrong with wanting the best for everyone? Believe it or not I want what is best for you too. You say I am "wrapped up" but what does that mean? I talk all the time with my brothers about the TV shows Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago PD. We love those shows. What is the difference really? I do not disagree that being here could be a serious addiction problem for some people. But you need to say this looking in the mirror my good friend. We each have to answer that question ourselves. Yes I agree that RLC without CC would be boring and I would have been long gone. RLC needs to buy CC and integrate it into their product offering. There is advice right there that they would pay thousands of dollars for if they asked someone like Deloitte or BDM for business advice. They get it for free from us. You do have a hatred for RLC. You seem to hate a lot of things. RLC is a bit of a joke but I don't hate them. They may fail ultimately or they may listen to their customers and improve their business. I am very unemotional over things like that. That is how the world works. All the best to you, enjoy your breakfast.

I know ... I am obsessed. But enough with the "these are just porn stars" routine. They are not porn stars. This RLC universe is something very different than being an adult actor/actress. I don't think if two lesbian porn stars hooked up like Nelly and Martina last night, they would sleep in the same bed, enjoy breakfast together, and then go for a bike ride. Of course there may be some porn stars who are into each other and I have stated before, those porn videos seem to be the hottest. When you watch porn you know you are watching actors with a script of sorts. This is something different. Contrived at times yes and the cams do not make anything about this REAL despite the name of the company. But these are not porn stars. Curious question for veterans: Have any of these people gone on to become a bona fide porn star. That I would believe.

Harley ... not at all. You are dead wrong or maybe 98% wrong. Let me elaborate. I do not know if this is "so strong" or "so right" for both of them. Only they know this. I only comment on what I SEE. Isn't that the Voyeur's Code? I do believe based on what I see that these two are really into each other ... and not as evidence by the sex (we know they do sex for money on RLC) but how they behave intimately in other moments of their life. I love debating those here who do not think they are that attracted to each other but this is mostly an RLC show. Ultimately any of us could be right, but it is pretty clear to me that these two are into each other in a big way. I try to make my points based on evidence that I see, not because "I was told that Bogdan was getting his dick sucked by Holly at the spare apartment" ... which again may be true, but since I can't see it, I take it with a grain of salt. Not suggesting at all that you do this my friend 🙂. HA. I want what is best for all four of these people and that is for them to decide. I would hate to see any of them hurt by all of this. This is not by any means reflecting on my own life. OMG I wish (that's part of the 2%). I am very happy with my life and I own the mistakes I have made. I love my children and I accept the situation I am in. I am absolutely not projecting if that is what you are accusing me of. I am very open however and not embarassed at all if I were to fall in love with another woman. I was very adventurous in my earlier years and I do relate with what these "kids" are going through. It does bring back memories for me. But my life is not anything like RLC and I wouldn't change it for any price. Honestly Harley (and other guys here), don't you know women who love reading trashy romance novels and soap operas and then love to gossip with other women about these juicy stories? I can't believe so many don't see this. When you are with friends (mixed company), I'm guessing you are with the guys drinking beers and the girls are in the other room chatting. I've heard guys say "the hens are really going at it". What do you think they are talking about? IT IS SHIT LIKE THIS! This really is all this is for me. What makes it a bit different is the audience. Honestly I do have girlfriends (not sexually) where I would love to tell them about this and I could talk to them about this (for hours!) ... but admittedly, I am too embarassed to tell them I pay for this and I spend time doing this. Before you all judge, be honest, who else in your lives know you are here? So to summarize, I like to provide thoughtful posts about what I see here. Period and end of story. If I ever start getting bored by this or if I feel most of you hate me for being the way I am ... I will look for other ways for to vent my passion and feelings. But I am fascinated by these stories and mostly the M/N/A/B story the most. Like I said earlier, it is TV without the script and producers and directors. Lastly, I enjoy responding to you when you are courteous and pleasant. Please continue to be that way. You seem to fall back on the excuse of "I call out bullshit when I see it, hey that is who I am". No, that is not who you are. You can actually be quite pleasant at times.

This is exactly what I meant earlier when I said I find the B in BISEXUAL the most confusing to understand of the LGBTQXYZ types we are all supposed to be tolerant of these days. Thank you Scout. But what is wrong with flirting? Is flirting in general bad? Isn't that how humans court each other? Some species rub their asses together to show affection, we flirt. Sure you can be bi without flirting but what is the fun in that? Not being critical of you Scout as the language translation may be losing something as well. But mostly I think bisexuality is the most confusing. And my theory is it is confusing because it is a DIRECT CONFLICT to the concept of "committed relationships" and "monagamy". I think a lot of people rationalize homosexuality along the lines of "hey those two guys are in a committed relationship and monamagous so what is the difference between that and a man and a woman in a committed relationship. Look they love each other. Some homosexual relationships are stronger than many hetero relationships. etc etc"? And please, I am very tolerant of everyone, just making a point about how a lot of people and deal with this in their mind. If RLC had a couples apartment for Nelly and Martina ... and there was no Bogdan or Alberto ... would we be having these discussions? HA HA, we would probably talk about how they fight all the time like Kitty/Smith and Gina/Bruno LOL. My point is that humans are still very much focused on "committed relationships" and monogamy. And true bisexuality threatens those mental models and paradigms. I think this is why this amazing diverse group of posters gets amped up with the Nelly/Martina/Boggy/Berty saga. It pushes the boundaries of these norms. (YES I know us voyeurs here are not very diverse as a group relative to everyone on the planet.)

Not to pile on my new friend @Deepdave ... but if Nelly was just out to try to check some boxes, why not head back to Bogdan. These two are so into each other. And if Martina was not into Nelly, she could bike to the beach with Alberto.