JenniferMom

Thank you Noldus. We have seen her before, i.e. after I joined right?

Is it me or is this party quite sad. My how far B4 has fallen since the party with Masha and Hedi and the cops coming, etc.

These are very good comments that highlight the seriousness of what we see. I commend both of you (and everyone else) who has had wake up calls and have improved your lives. I was wild and crazy in high school and the years after when I should have been in college. These years resulted in 2 kids who I love very much. Life did not go according to plan but I wouldn't change a thing. But as crazy as me and my friends were ... we did not go for 36 hours straight and I don't believe we drank so much. Yes there was a lot of pot and a few times some coke but it was not very prevalent. Granted we were younger with limited resources. As I type this I wonder what some of my friends are up to now that they are in their late 20's. Yes this may be fun to watch but we should be mindful that we could be seeing people ruining their lives on cam.

I like sparring with you because you make good arguments. I agree they are at the top of the RLC list because they do have fun and are not afraid to have sex on camera. I would never put Stella and Gina above the twins, or Radi, or Viv, or Nana or whoever is in B2. I am just finding their 24/36 hour binges to not be very interesting anymore.

Seriously DD ... I am starting to worry about you. I agree it's been fun to watch Stella and Gina ... but all they do is drink and dance. After a few hours of this, it gets boring. And unlike some of the times we see a boy enter a ... where we all experience this hope that we will see some sex ... there is no hope for anything with Gina and Stella. Again ... I like Gina and Stella a lot, but they shouldn't be put on a pedestal. Of course if you just like watching them play and get wasted ... then I am happy for you.

Is this the party where it was mentioned (in another thread perhaps) that Martina had decided to NOT attend?

Not to pile on our dear friend Harley, but I would add: Hiding behind the "that's the way I am and I am not going to change" gets old. You CAN change and you CAN show more empathy and respect for others here. It truly is a choice. Try it. The continual citing "someone told me Bogdan is fucking so-in-so" also gets old. This one is more difficult to fix (and I know the last thing you want is us fixing you), i.e. if you truly have some inside source, I would say to spill it, but I know that might not be possible. But if you do not have an inside source, you should not make it appear that you do have one. Make your argument and be done with it, i.e. if you think Bogdan is fucking someone off-cam, say that ... and say why you think that ... but don't tell us you were told this unless you tell us how you are connected to these sources. Or if you have an inside source, then label what you know as speculation. A speculator with an inside source would become a VERY ACCURATE speculator!! I know this is piling on. But here's my point: If you truly have some battle to the death with RLC ... you will be more effective if you can connect with as many people here who see your views and agree with them. Alienating all of us is not helping you with your goals to destroy RLC.

Ah OK. Understood. And Martina and Alberto's free cam has to be one of the better ones I am guessing. Who has the best free cam, i.e. where you see the most fucking?

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What were they talking about? Why do you call her a nun? It does not look like Hanna is trying to seduce the nun. And the nun is smiling a lot and is not upset or angered like Hanna. Only thing I can think of is the nun is trying to tell her she drinks too much. Or has a sex addiction? At times it looks like the nun is horny for Hanna. Might it be that Hanna wants it too but is resisting because she knows Aaron's head might blow off? Could use some translators here for sure. Interesting scene ... perhaps not ... but everything is relative ... and these are the dog days of RLC right now. RLC Replay REPLAY.REALLIFECAM.COM Watch your favorite cams in 24-hour recording

So Hanna tells her friend "Wait here in the living room, here's something to drink ... I'm going to go fuck Aaron. Be right back."

A lot of good points Dave. Yes there may be some who are trying to imagine a story for Martina and that would not be fair. But hopefully most of us -- but I will only speak for myself -- simply want to know the true story of their lives. Maybe we shouldn't want this. Maybe we should be happy to see the sex and be done with it. It is certainly plausible that the cast members would prefer that we just focus on the sex. I agree the purpose of our conversation should not be to aggravate the cast members. But talking about their lives, that should be expected when they sign up for something like this. I agree she is a good person and I do respect her, envy her, and as many know ... have a crush on her. Maybe that drives why I want to know more. And I agree she has a life outside of her apartment and she is entitled to that. She owes us NO EXPLANATIONS. But I think we still have lattitude to question these things and discuss them and talk about them. If you think we should not engage in that type of discussion ... then what is the purpose of this forum?

Not picking on Moos here but I think we have to be skeptical of everything in RLC Nation and I would suggest we never have proof of anything based on this forum. We are all anonymous here and we could be anyone really. Also, the cast members know exactly how things work with the cams and the forum and it wouldn't surprise me that they have multiple ways to disguise or avoid disclosing anything they don't want to share with the "customers". For example, if there truly is a Michael, what better way for Martina to muddy the waters than to joke about the assholes on the forum who believe this nonsense. The only thing we can trust is what we see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I will stipulate that I have been skeptical of JMAN's claims myself. I have tried over and over to hear what he hears and I am unable to see and hear the things he sees and hears. But he brings up a good point here. Most of us are busy and we tune in and out and we miss 98% of these people's lives. I admit that like many of you, I laser focus in on the sex scenes. But I believe JMAN spends considably more time watching and understanding the nuances of their lives. I know when I spend the time on a particular scene, I see a lot more than I ever do when flying in and out during the day. There are others here like John that are able to deep dive into their lives and see things that cause questions, etc. For example, there is someone here who has focused on Martina's rings. She rarely wears them but sometimes she does. Does it mean anything? So who knows but he has sent me hard visual evidence that Martina has some rings and wears them from time to time. It takes incredible time to do this level of detective work. Again, not sure what it means. And maybe JMAN is just a crank making things up for the hell of it. We will never know. But please allow for the fact that some people spend a lot of time here and really dissect everything in search of greater understanding of what we see. Of course someone will comment about how pathetic this sounds but in reality we all have hobbies and vices and all have reasons for spending the time we do here. To summarize, it is ok to be skeptical of JMAN and others; however, I am not convinced they should be dismissed. And I could be wrong too. Lastly, I am skeptical of the existance of Michael and some off other JMAN's claims myself; however, there is a lot of behaviors that to me, remain unexplained. The most common one is Martina's dissapearance at virtually any time of the day or night. Where does she go and why? We all see Alberto home alone a lot. It is easy to assume she is walking the dogs or maybe headed to B4 or to the beach or on the balcony with a cigarette. If you are like me, and check in and out of RLC all day long, you quickly assume it's one of these benign explanations. But if you are watching continuously, you start to see things like when she leaves with the dog leashes and when she does not. And you can start to piece together a more full story. Anyway sorry (again) for a long post. But I wanted to weigh in on this topic which has been bubbling for quite some time now.

How would the moderators know?

Who says Nelly wants exclusivity with Martina? Obviously they both want to have their cake and eat it too. I get that you find this morally wrong and to some degree I am with you. But what if Bogdan was OK with Nelly and Martina having sexual relations? Would you change your tune? It appears Alberto is more OK with this than Bogdan and you don't seem to be as critical of Martina as you are Nelly. And I continue to believe Bogdan has culpability here. If Nelly is so evil, Bodgan needs to walk away. Sometimes that is the only way people get the message and make fundamental behavioral changes. But overall you make a lot of good points and you are passionate in your views on this ... I'm too tired to continue to argue with you!

How would you know DD? Agree we ultimately don’t know … and a lot depends on meaning of “best” … but I think we have ample evidence that these girls are close. They love together, they travel together, they cuddle together. There is more evidence they are besties than evidence there is not. And are they “ex sex lovers” after being off cam yesterday???? A lot of men complain how women are too emotional and not rational. They are mostly right … I think we are wired differently that way. So it may be annoying but it doesn’t mean these differences don’t exist. They do. It may be difficult for you to see why these two girls have a thing for each other. It may not be logical. I myself don’t understand it fully … but I DO KNOW what it means to have a bestie and I can see the signs of this very easily. Agree with @emnv when he said wait for Season 2. This isn’t over. And thank God for that as the rest of RLC is boring. How does Leora get top 8 of 10 cams just by herself?????

This I think (hope!) is a link to a quote from Jimmy Deen. So ignore my last OT comment, I think I figured it out. Jimmy said: "Martina wanting to get back with nelly after just breaking with her and having a go at bogdan doesnt make sense and very out of character. Bogdan pressuring martina to fuck him doesnt make sense and seems out of character." Jimmy, the first part makes a lot of sense to me. In fact, it was @emnv who reported at one time that Martina was unhappy that she could not get more time with Nelly. Am I the only one who remembers this? So to me, Martina is trying to call this off (the sex) because she knows Nelly doesn't have the support of Bogdan and as a good friend, it's the right thing to do. But the urges and the affection remain. It is quite possible she wants to get back with Nelly and maybe she was trying to reason with Bogdan on the Terrace. In fact you can imagine an exchange along the lines of Martina telling Bogdan "you may not want us to have sex together but if this is driving Nelly to drinking, that is not good either". Now I am speculating. Your point about Bogdan pressuring her does not make sense and I don't know what to make of it. If it is true that Martina LOVES sex, and if this was a way to get back sexually with Nelly, I don't think she would be so against the idea, would she? But yes, it all is a bit strange.

Hate when we have to tightrope over to a new thread. Adalbert said: "don't be angry with me, but over 13 million people speak Catalan. I feel a russian translator would also be very helpful." Never angry with anyone Bert! But you are making my point ... 13 million and no voyeurs??? And yes on Russian translators. The story on the street in RLC nation is that they used to be very active here until Harley pissed them off and they went underground! Anyway ... who says RLC is not educational? If it wasn't for this experience, I would have no idea what Catalan is. I've been doing some reading. Quite fascinating. I am reading there is tension even today that the Catalan people want to separate from Spain? Wow. OT: I see some of you can post elaborate links back to other threads. How does one do this? I know how to post a link into RLC Replay and I assumed it worked similarly but my cutting/pasting (like above) did not expand into what I am seeing others do here. Have a great day everyone!

A couple of things: I think I’ve demonstrated that I respect everyone here including Harley 😜 … and I will say that goes the same for JMAN and EMNV. It pains me they don’t see the same thing. What is crazy to me is that it seems like we are hostage to a language (Catalan) that apparently only 3 or 4 people speak on earth because there is no one that can apparently corroborate what we are hearing! The good news is that when Nelly and Martina broke up (or did they?) … there was a lot of speculation on whether it was really over. Well clearly it isn’t if they indeed spent the day together off-cam. If they have agreed to not have sex … but their bodies are yearning for each other … might this explain what we saw today? Nelly is pissed and drunk because she wants Martina and she slept in the tent because she is upset with Bogdan who is denying this for her. And Martina’s heated discussion with Bogdan could have been about this as well … ie how this is affecting someone they both love. And it explains Alberto’s indifference because he is sick and tired of hearing how great Nelly makes her cum. That’s my two cents.

WHO! WHO!

If this is true, this is a job for Bruno aka FS!!

OK ... have we ever seen her do backdoor? I don't think so but as always someone will say "she used to do it daily back in 2017". The closest I have seen is Nelly trying to go for a finger insertion but Martina rebuked her. And yes even though Alberto does not have a very large dick, Nelly's finger would fit much better I'm sure. I am guessing this is a roller blade accident. We need our translators! And AmandaFan, I'm guessing you were being a bit sarcastic perhaps ... I get it, it's fun to be playful during these RLC doldrums.

Of course I was having fun talking about the back and forth between you and Harley. But yes you cannot let him get under your skin. That is what he wants. Having said this, a lot of the first paragrahps in this post seem to support what Harley is saying. Both of you are more or less saying that Bruno cheats on Gina. You are more diplomatic and Harley comes at it like a bull dozer. That's really the only difference!!

The last thing I want is to get in the middle of this feud between Harley and DD ... it really is one of the top 5 entertaining things to do in RLC Nation these days. That's sad but I challenge you to name five more interesting things happening over the last several days? And I detest how Harley uses the "I have been told this and that all the time" ... along with his "that's the way I am and I am not going to change". But hey, he doesn't seem to be going away. BUT ... ok ... I am speculating now: We see Gina and Bruno fighting constantly. We did see Bruno put the moves on Stella ON CAM briefly as well as clean up her piss which is an intimate thing to do I suppose. And I've been told by veterans that Bruno has fucked Holly before and we have seen Holly back on cam since she left so she is in Barca somewhere. MY POINT IS THIS: If Harley is full of shit and Bruno is not fucking Holly and Stella off cam ... then WHAT DO GINA AND BRUNO FIGHT ABOUT ALL THE TIME???? We never hear what the arguments are or if we do (speculation or otherwise) it's about Bruno being unfaithful. They can't be fighting like this over stupid shit like the color of the drapes. All of this is circumstantial of course, but if Bruno is being faithful, why the fuck do they fight so much? And maybe Bruno is NOT fucking Holly and Stella so Harley is technically wrong ... but if Bruno is fucking someone other than Gina ... that does not make Harley totally wrong. Remember, if Gina and Bruno only fucked each other, that would be perfect in Harley's world 🙂 . Anyway ... rather than fight among ourselves, we should focus on figuring out what is going on by watching with our eyes and finding some translators that we can trust.

You have no ability at nuance and context and subtlety. Of course this is never going to be real with the cams. Never. So let's just shut this all down then. I won't complain and it will free up some of my time 🙂 . But in the context of RLC, there is a "real" and an "authentic" versus a fake. My point was that Nana does not seem to be in to Uber guy. So why does she string him along? I contend because it helps her get views. In the real world, a girl like Nana would show him the door and tell him "we're done". What I meant by "as long as she keeps it real" ... I am saying "stringing him along to get views and clicks" is better than a fake show. Althought now that I just typed this, have we ever seen a fake show between a guy and girl? Hmmmm Again my point is about authenticity in the context of the RLC world. At the end of the day, that is all we can hope for.