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Good to see Vivian, the future of this team, hanging with the girls and socializing instead of being back in her room bating.

Love watching Masha constantly stretching, as if she was just keeping limber for some marathon prize-winning fuck session.

This my #2 key factor for tonight after we see if Nelly gets drunk or not (and she seems to be a tea-total-er tonight (translate that!). Much has been said that N and M won't make love if their male partners are in the same physical building. Let's see. The opposing force against this is N & M may be super horny for each other because it has been a long time.

Careful! What is a punter? Only ones I know play US football.

Hopefully at least the video tape shows both Boggy and Holly out of the villa at the same time!!! Our speculations should at least comport with the video evidence!!!

Several comments on Nelly being happy. I have mentioned that when she is not drunk or crying, she has a naturally contagious smile and a fun personality. I think this is the Nelly that Martina is attracted to. Will she stay in this persona tonight or will she become wild, crazy, drunk, puking, then sleeping it off Nelly???

As we speculate as part of the pre-game show for tonight's big event ... I think Mingo's observation here is a key thing for the viewers to keep an eye out for.

Thank you Piper ... yes I am a relative newbie. I have heard about Masha's exploits and understand them to be legendary. I wold never refuse a gift! 🙂

Thank you Piper. But I thought Hedi was the one who insisted on a condom. Of course I could be mistaken. But recall she made several attacks over the course of a couple of weeks, and one night after hours of foreplay it seemed like it was going to be "mission accomplished" for her ... but he wanted a condom and they did not have any. Like I said I could be wrong.

When I first read this, I thought "train him to pick up his socks, take out the garbage, etc., etc." I thought most men hated when we did that! And of course, Alberto DOES most of the chores around their apartment! But then I realized you were talking about sexual technique and skills. And on that I totally agree. A lot of women (and men) are afraid to tell their partner what they like. I wish I understood the languages here because I get the sense watching Masha make love that she does this part very well (i.e. helping Hedi understand how to make her cum). Feel free to dissent if you better understand what she is saying. Honestly I am not sure.

Is it me, or does Holly seem horny and playful with Masha? Her timing is terrible! Where was this before Hedi arrived? Holly has played with her pussy a few times already. Masha is probably sore all over to engage now. Then again, this is Masha we are talking about.

I think you are making my point Cat. Of course we would not be happy if Alberto behaved as you described above. I think we have been too critical of Alberto and that includes me. My only desire at this point is that if Alberto truly loves Martina ... then he needs to show it when he makes love to her. Lovers know when their partners are "going through the motions" vs when the connection is "there". A whole genre of comedy is built around women faking orgasms to make their man feel masculine. We have to distinguish between "real" vs "fake" as in the fake lesbian shows. I think what we see with Martina and Alberto is very real (as real as can be on cam). I think Alberto is taking Martina for granted and that you can never do to your partner. Some might say Martina is taking advantage of Alberto and that is not totally wrong either. Bottom line we see a "real" relationship with its ups and downs ... which is infinitely more interesting than say Leora and Malia. And again, for those that say "established relationships the lovemaking is often like we see" ... ok I can agree to that ... there will always be the "quickie fuck" etc. But once in awhile we should see truly passionate lovemaking like we see with Martina/Nelly and other couples.

So Hannah, Aaron, and Timur are new to RLC. I know everyone thinks they themself are "above gossip" and would NEVER EVER EVER talk about someone behind their backs ... but honestly, we all do it to varying degrees. I would love to know what they are talking about around the kitchen table. You have to believe the three newbies are asking questions about what's it like to be in this role, etc., etc. And too I'm sure they are saying things like "stay away from this person, they are crazy, etc." Would be interested in anything the translators can provide. There is nothing better in a soap opera than juicy gossip.

Thank you 'Bert. I agree too that things like Martina in a shower are fun to watch and very real. Who knows for sure, but I'm guessing she would sing/dance in the shower even if there were no cams. She does seem to be a person who is full of joy quite often which is one reason we like her. I don't have the data at hand but I think the divorce rate is approaching 50% if not more ... either US or globally or both. Lots of relationships fail. Most people go through several failed relationships before they find "the right one". So really, we all should be conditioned to see several of these relationships fail. We should expect it honestly. It's sad but that is real life. LOL we've seen Gina and Bruno come close, how many times now?

Yes. I think for those who watch a lot of TV through their lives, we are conditioned for happy endings. Very few movies, TV shows, etc. end in tragedy. And the ones that do often are based on real events (e.g. the Chernobyl miniseries). When a movie ends badly, the audience is often pissed off and call the movie "a bad movie". So I think many of us (me included) want to see a happy ending between Alberto and Martina. That's what we expect because everything we watch on the screen ends up being a happy ending. But that is not real life.

Has Noldus filed a report yet? How many fucks per hour did they accomplish? As I postulated in Martina's thread, the fundamental question here is whether Masha and Hedi have the beginning's of a serious relationship ... or is this just a really nice FWB arrangement ... or will it flame out? I won't jump into this as you guys know I can be long. What I will say is what I like about RLC is the little things that catch your attention. When Hedi finished and Masha continued to bate ... he removed his condom, tied it off, and just flung it across the room which I did not expect at all. And then he had this very subtle look on his face which I think showed he missed the garbage can he must have been aiming for. This was priceless! You want real life? You won't see that in a porn video.

I think we should be careful to not "pile on" Alberto here. And I am not criticizing JMAN and Adalbert or anyone else. Indeed, I was pretty critical of Alberto myself and I still have issues with him. But he is who he is and we all know people in our lives where we look at their "soul mate" and we scratch our heads and wonder "what does he/she see in him/her". My only real concern about Alberto remains his lovemaking. I do think he adores Martina a lot. But he needs to show it when he makes love to her. I think we have seen some improvement; however, is it because he knows Martina has a love interest outside of him? Does he read our comments? Who knows. Most women love to be cuddled and nurtured after cumming. Most women actually love to cum too. Alberto seems to not be sensitive to this. When you truly love someone, you want to see them orgasm. You WANT them to be pleasured even more than cumming yourself. It's the same concept as giving gifts ... you should enjoy giving and want to give to people who you are close with. We all love getting gifts but we all know the pure joy when you give someone who you love a nice gift. Even in FWB scenarios, you have an affection for the other person and want to see them orgasm. Alberto's lovemaking sometimes falls short of even an FWB arrangement (in my opinion). If I was Martina I would be totally happy with Alberto having his "own" hobbies, not being employed, going bankrupt, not being super fit, whatever ... all the things JMAN listed in his rant the other day ... but if I loved him and I knew he loved me ... I would be the happiest girl on earth. Compare Alberto's lovemaking to Masha's beau. He helped her cum (again!) after he orgasmed ... he cuddled ... he took his time ... he focused on HER pleasure and was rewarded for that by Masha. Now before I get attacked by those who think Masha likes theatrics, etc. ... I totally agree. I am still not clear what is going on between those two ... but it could be a great FWB relationship perhaps. When Alberto makes love, he seems like he is in a hurry and needs to get to his next appointment. My point here is to focus on the lovemaking and sex. Isn't that the point of RLC? Yeah yea I know there are those (DD?) who just like seeing good friends having fun etc etc ... but at the end of the day we are not here to watch people playing Cataan or watch the cleaning lady or Boggy cleaning pools. I think we are here to focus on the sex because we know the sex is DIFFERENT than porn ... but still not as real as what we experience in our own lives. It's fascinating to watch. Has anyone noticed that actually watching the actual fucking isn't that exciting as it was when you first joined? I find myself looking for new twists and new behaviors. Anyway I never dreamed I would defend Alberto, but here I am doing a bit of that.

Yes agree … but have not had the chance to watch 24x7 tonight.

Take a breath JMAN. You are where I was about 4-6 weeks after I joined. Martina is naturally attractive and you may have a little crush on her as did I and maybe still do. And it drives us crazy how Alberto acts. But over time you may see like I have that in many ways he is a good man and she could do a lot worse. Yet I hear you that a lot doesn’t make sense. What concerns me is your belief that she may have had sex with two guys tonight. Where are you getting that? If it is true, then yes it is disturbing.

I just went back and re-read everything. So the skinny girl has a serious personal problem, ok. But Martina and Alberto were fighting and Alberto got angry. What were they fighting about?

HA ... I just picked random spanish names that over the years have seen romantic to me. I did not know they were gay. My point was ... pick whoever you want to be the poster child of the typical, super-attractive, romantic spanish man ... Alberto is not that.

Any chance that she was just teasing Alberto? I know my sister-in-law can be brutal teasing her husband my brother ... but it IS JUST teasing. I wish I understood the language and could watch on REPLAY. My brother always can see and hear what she is saying. We all know that Alberto is not the most romantic guy on the planet. Is it possible that she was teasing about something like that even though deep down she may still love him. Not everyone can be Ricardo Montalban or Julio Iglesias or Ricky Martin!! Just when you think things are on a better trajectory with these two, something like this happens. Of course, it's part of the script right?

Were they drunk when they made love in Martina's and Alberto's bed in the middle of the afternoon / early evening?

I missed this last night. Very interesting. It's easy to miss something with Noldus' announcement of them fucking being the very next post!

Getting shit faced once in awhile is just a "crazy night" that you will talk about for the rest of your life. But two weekends in a row ... first thing you wonder if you are Martina is whether this is a pattern. And if I am not mistaken, there was a weekday or two when Nelly went berzerk. Don't think Martina was there but I am assuming they have access to RLC and can see if they want. If RLC Premium Replay is NOT a perk that they give to their employees ... then this will definitely effect my decision to fly to Barca and apply for a job!! LOL The interesting question to me about Martina is her bisexualilty. As I increasingly learn the value of a committed relationship like JMAN had with his beloved wife ... dealing with my own regrets and such ... and being bisexual or maybe I should say having been bi ... I think being bi is complex and somewhat problematic philosophically. I know a lot of people don't agree, but I can accept that two men or two women can have a meaningful lifelong relationship and you can even convince me that they can raise kids successfully and so forth ... all that "love is love and so forth" pablum makes sense logically even though there are a ton of questions around the long term effects on society of families without dads and without moms, etc. But if you are bi and want to continue to be bi ... you CANNOT me monogamous. Unless until someday medicine advances to where one human can have a cock and a pussy and make their own babies! So how does this work? We have a US senator from Arizona ... a very conservative state ... that is "openly bi". I get a kick seeing some people who brag about her being the "first openly bi senator" but she and her people try to hide it because all the conservatives in Arizona -- some who might be tolerant of gay and lesbian couples -- they are not tolerant of polygamy and such. It's funny to watch all the bullshit posturing. So this is what Alberto and Martina have to discuss together. To me the answer is simple: THREESOMES! I know Harley hates that answer but if they truly are committed to each other and love each other and COMMUNICATE, I think they can make it work. To me the key to the future of society is how we integrate all this newfound sexual liberalism and openness with the important, timeless, and classic values of love and commitment and family ... that have worked so well so long on this planet. Oh well. Enough pontificating!