eagleb1

1 hour ago, aussiegary1965 said:

Y is gay apt (chad and co)still on list cant seriously b letting those nutcases continue

How do you know that?  I guess you must be looking at it.   I, on the other hand, have no idea what's happening in the gay apartments.  I have no problem with them living the life they choose --- it just doesn't interest me.

1 hour ago, Thestarider said:

Pretty simple really Eagle:

How could Hillary have won ? You all need to quit bitching and figure out to change the maps above. You really question why Republicans are in control ?

Even in our unfair Electoral College system, a few thousand votes in some key swing states would have changed the outcome  --- that's how.

And,  Republicans control a large number of states.  They have used that control to Gerrymander voting districts to retain control. They have also used their control to suppress the votes of citizens who are likely to vote against them.  Is that what you think of as a fair democratic process?

1 hour ago, Thestarider said:

LMAO it is fair and has always been fair to the entire UNITED STATES, not just New York and California which is mostly populated with liberal thinking adults.

This is what has always made our US election so great..... Equal representation !!! WE are 50 "Fifty" "UNITED STATES" Eagle. We are not just the California, Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida UNITED STATES. So by your thinking the five states with most population should elect our president. and to hell with the other 45, now how can you in your very educated right mind justify that is even and equal representation ? Hence the 2 senators per state, the executive branch, and the House which legislates the law represented by population, instead of the liberal judicial branch which now believes that they should legislate law instead interoperate law. BTW asshole since you are throwing out insults. A in civics and graduated 3rd in my class. Also was a member of state championship debate team. Won two state chamionships on a football team. Graduated from Kansas University with a Bachlors in Mechanical Engineering. Have owned and operated four business's quite successfully, and now a private consultant in various types of energy power generation. Have served locally on the Board of Education and on the City Commission. I have given over 25 years to our local goverment in many various boards and organizations. I also counsel in my own home, Drug Addicts and Alcoholics from our local Half Way house.

Education is always "TRUMP ed" by experience. 

 

OMG why do I get involved in this.

You may have received an A in civics, but you still don't understand the constitution.

I'll just highlight a few of your comments that lead me to question your knowledge.

You say "So by your thinking the five states with most population should elect our president".  No, I say that it should be based on the entire population of the country.

You refer to "the liberal judicial branch which now believes that they should legislate law instead interoperate law."  What world are you living in?  The Republicans have created a court system dominated by conservatives.  They even managed to steal a Supreme Court seat that should have been filled by a Democratic nomination.  And, what the hell does interoperate mean?

You said "BTW asshole since you are throwing out insults."   Is that the way you think educated grownups should debate an issue?  And please point out any insults I've thrown out.  If you think that correcting the mistakes you make is an insult then I'm guilty.

37 minutes ago, Foamy T. Squirrel said:

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 If California was a "proportional" state, it would not affect the popular vote, but Clinton would have received even less electoral college votes than she did.

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Let's not confuse the non-Americans.  If all states were proportional, I don't know for sure how it would have worked out.  Many of the swing states were very close so Clinton would have gained a considerable number of electors from them.  Considering that she won the popular vote by a fair number, she probably would have won an all-state proportional electoral college. 

2 hours ago, Thestarider said:

How is this not fair and equal representation ?

 

 

Your bio doesn't say what country you're from, but your lack of understanding of U.S. election laws leads me to assume that either you're not American or your high school didn't require you to take a course in civics

Let's talk about the Senate.  The Constitution grants each state two Senators.  So Wyoming's Senators represent 300,0000 persons each.  California of course  also has two Senators which means that each represents 20,000,000.people.

The House is less skewed because representation is allocated based on Population.  However, each state has a minimum of one representative whether it's earned or not.

The Presidential election is skewed because the number of electors in each state is the total of their Representatives and Senators.  That is a major reason why we can elect a President who loses the popular vote  by millions

12 hours ago, Howard said:

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Liberals are to premature ejaculation as conservatives are to endurance.

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Wow, you must have more time on your hands than I do, but I'll try to answer your most outrageous comments.

As to business experience, I said that as a liberal I would MATCH my business knowledge against yours  I concede that we both have much more business savvy than the vast majority of voters ---- liberal and conservative.

While it's true that a college degree is not a guarantee of success, when you graduate from a free city college and become a partner in a national CPA firm, that is some indication of your business ability.

You'll have to explain to me how my first two paragraphs are emotional and not simply facts.  My reference to age (I'm 82) was simply that some of my news-worthy projects were a long time ago.  The earliest was in 1964.

Just to clarify my experience, I did CPA type audits just long enough to qualify for the CPA exam.  Most of my public career involved consulting projects with major American companies as well as the U.S. and local governments.  The mail order company I ran for 18 years had over one million customers and hundreds of employees all of whom had decent health insurance and were treated with respect.

You again call me emotional when you contend I misquoted something in your original post.  I did paraphrase some of your remarks, but I certainly was not trying to mislead anyone.

While the Republicans "spanked" the Democrats in 2016 it was the Constitution and gerrymandering that did the damage.  Clinton got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump.  Nationally,  house Democrats got more votes then Republicans who nevertheless ended with a sizable majority.  So much for the basic democratic principle of one man one vote.

I'm not going to defend Clinton who has been accused of an outrageous list of misdeeds but has NEVER been charged with any and of course has never been convicted.  Your comment about Iran getting free stuff I assume relates to the cash we sent them.  I hope you understand better than Trump that we simply agreed to repay THEIR money to them.  Most of it was money they prepaid for military equipment that we didn't deliver.

Finally, I deny making absurd assumptions or insulting anyone. You ended saying "Liberals are to premature ejaculation as conservatives are to endurance."  I consider that an insult.

3 hours ago, Howard said:

Just throwing this out there...

I've owned numerous companies in 25+ years.

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Yea...I'm throwing shade. Mostly because it annoys me how most liberals are clueless on how the economy (or business) works.

I'm a liberal and I'll match my knowledge of business against yours.  As I said before, I'm a CPA/MBA and am a retired partner of a big four CPA firm.  Most of my career was as a consultant and I headed up projects that you heard about if you're old enough.

Later, I ran a mail order company for 18 years.  We were NEVER sued by anyone.  What are you doing wrong?

You say that you're from the USA so I assume that you took a high school civics course.  Impeachment is not the equivalent of censure. It is the equivalent of an indictment and requires that two-thirds  of the Senate must vote to find you guilty.  If they don't, then you're innocent and it carries no implication of wrongdoing.

Of course the impeachment and conviction of Trump will never happen.  You could produce a smoking gun and a bloody knife and it wouldn't be enough to convince his faithful followers.  There is the 25th Amendment, though  ---- look it up.

Your statement that the Republicans didn't impede  Obama, caused me to do a spit take.  Where were you from 2010 to 2016 when the Republicans prevented enactment of any  Obama programs?  They even managed the unprecedented action of stealing a Supreme Court nomination. 

Yes, there were flaws in the roll-out of the ACA.  Have you ever been involved in  implementing a huge program?  It will never be perfect at first.  Just be sure that you have in place a system for quickly solving unanticipated problems.  As to keeping your own insurance, Obama should have been more clear in stating that was true unless your policy didn't meet the minimum requirements of the ACA such as no lifetime limit.

I could go on but I'm realistic enough to know that it won't change your opinion.  I guess that the best I could hope for is that readers who are on the fence will understand.

1 hour ago, SPYING 1 said:

Why DON'T democrats or socialist talk about babies being killed thur abortion  ??

OMG, I can't believe I'm allowing myself to get involved in this.

A fetus is a potential life that can't survive out of the body that's hosting it at a risk to the host's life and well being.  If you care that much about potential life, I assume you don''t masturbate or engage in sex with contraception.

As to concern about babies,  Progressives are not hypocrites.  We care about potential mothers making long-term choices about the well being of every child they choose to bear considering all of consequences to their life and future.

Compare that to the hypocrites who piously defend making a women carrying a fetus to viable life and then abandon them to a lack of healthcare.  In addition to trying to destroy the ACA (aka Obamacare) they have allowed CHIP (the most important child healthcare program) to expire.

I shouldn't have taken the bait to participate in this stupid controversy.  I promise that I won't continue to waste my time with this.

Why are we still concerned that his supporters continue to defend him?  Anyone who didn't recognize his incompetence both mentally and intellectually before the election is not going to be swayed by his unbelievable behavior now..

1 hour ago, jabbath1987 said:

I dont think she has too. Why do all people think girls must only be skin and bones? Shes looking nice and sexy the way she is...

I thought we agreed a while ago that body shaming will not be permitted.

1 hour ago, moos54 said:

at the same time vk is the russian social media ;-) so you are the best chance to find all the girls in vk 

and yes vk is great for nudity 

I'm probably going to do a head slap when I hear the answer, but what is VK?

2 hours ago, Maturin said:

I'm from the UK, lived for many years in Barcelona and now live in Sweden.  Every single one of those countries is orders of magnitude more preferable than living where you do now and running the risk of meeting people like yourself.  Stop using words like socialist and communist or talking about rights and taxes - you clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are making yourself sound even more ridiculous than we all think you are.

Why do you continue to argue with an ignoramus? It's laughable how they continue to support positions against their own best interests because candidates hypocritically spout social positions they have been brainwashed to  believe in.

1 hour ago, StnCld316 said:

I think North Korea is farther advanced than what the World is being told.  All Donald Trump has to learn is keep his Yap Shut. The World will be safer without his Words of Wisdom. Every time he opens his mouth he pisses someone off.

What is it that you think we haven't been told?  He has a hydrogen bomb and intercontinental ballistic capabilities.  We're not sure that his H-bomb is small enough to fit on his ICBM, but we're told that there's a good chance it is or will be soon.

4 hours ago, Amy3 said:

The way I see it is that we all know that the Iran deal is a ruse.

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I respectfully disagree that we all know that it's a ruse.  I suppose that you and Trump know more than all permanent members of the UN Security Counsel who support the agreement.

4 hours ago, Thestarider said:

What the supreme court wrote and determined:

Meaning of "well regulated militia"

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Justice Stevens in dissent:

When each word in the text is given full effect, the Amendment is most naturally read to secure to the people a right to use and possess arms in conjunction with service in a well-regulated militia. So far as appears, no more than that was contemplated by its drafters or is encompassed within its terms. Even if the meaning of the text were genuinely susceptible to more than one interpretation, the burden would remain on those advocating a departure from the purpose identified in the preamble and from settled law to come forward with persuasive new arguments or evidence. The textual analysis offered by respondent and embraced by the Court falls far short of sustaining that heavy burden. And the Court’s emphatic reliance on the claim "that the Second Amendment ... codified a pre-existing right," ante, at 19 [refers to p. 19 of the opinion], is of course beside the point because the right to keep and bear arms for service in a state militia was also a pre-existing right.^[166

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I'm not a lawyer but I respectfully disagree with many of Scalia's opinions.  In this case, Steven's dissent makes more sense to me.

The whole originalist concept is ridiculous when you consider two centuries of changes that couldn't possible have been anticipated by the founders.

The scary part is when you realize how many things it might be.

1 hour ago, kalevipoeg said:

Article [II] (Amendment 2 - Bearing Arms)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

No, of course I do not understand the right to keep and bear arms. And you don´t understand why I don´t understand. We are very far from each other.

 

 

Gun lovers overlook that well regulated militia preamble.

4 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

I agree with you Eagle I am not in dispute here. Now if you would please do the research that shows what race is doing most of the gun killings ? And don't call me racist, as I am not. Just facts

Sadly, you are right about the racial element, but, still, they have to have the guns to do the killing.  Years ago, a national magazine (Time?) posted the pictures of everyone who had died from guns in a particular week.  The images were dramatic and sickening. 

There is a truism in statistics --- correlation doesn't prove causation.  I don't know much of it is due to poverty or living conditions prevalent among racial groups.

31 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

Damn so much truth in the facts instead of speculation:

CPRC Original Research: All but one of the 20 worst mass public shootings, 45 of the worst 50, occurred outside the United States since 1970

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I was curious about the CPRC which I assume is the Crime Prevention Research Center.  One look at their website and it's clear what their bias is.  Mass killings get attention, but don't define the total level of deaths due to guns.

I was suspicious of the statistics shown because it conflicted with what I understand happened in Australia after a horrendous mass shooting. You can read about it here: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/australia-gun-control/541710/

Here is a comparison of gun death rates from CBS (I know ----  "fake news"): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

1 hour ago, jabbath1987 said:

No speculation groomy can understand what they talk 

I certainly appreciate that groomy lets us know what the participants are saying.  I doubt that he is aware of the business economics from VH's experience and plans.

All this speculation about the best way to run this VH business is a joke.  I spent half my career as a consultant on business matters . I wouldn't even speculate about what is the best business practice for a venture whose economics I have no idea about.

7 hours ago, Amy3 said:

I hope so! I really wish they wouldn't smoke in the house. It's a know problem and you'll never know if you did something to hinder the development of your own child. It's just not worth the risk. 

In my case it was self enforcing.  A long, long time ago when I still smoked, I couldn't come near my wife if I had even smoked outside.  It would just make her so sick.

3 hours ago, SPYING 1 said:

Almost 50,000 people a year died from auto accident, are we going to ban automobiles  ??

This is too foolish to reply to but I'll try.  Many people die from slipping in their bathroom.  Maybe we should ban bathrooms.

And, by the way, many of those auto deaths are because of DUI drivers, and we CAN do much more to protect those of us who drive (and walk) sober.

24 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

Yes, the left that destroys everything it touches from art to war. 

That is so far from reality that it leaves me speechless.  One more thing.  Who do think is more tolerant of LGBT rights?

29 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

...and that's exactly how the left destroys the world. Anthem stays!

You mean the left that brought us Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, the five day work week, overtime pay ...........?