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There must be a reason why RLC still list Alberto and Jade as participants. If they truly are gone, I think we would have seen a "left the project" message a long time ago. I think they'll return.....either in the same apt. but refurbished, or in another apt. or even Alberto's new house. In the meantime, RLC should run "The Best of Martina" recordings from her years with them! 😄 😄 😄

The question begs to be asked. If RLC kept Elli and Vladellia's names listed as UM for so long, and then brought them back in a new apt., can we expect the same to happen to Alberto and Jade?? Will they return in his long-awaited house or a new apt.? (Unless there is some other reason for the long UM.)

Alberto finally moving into his house was my original thought (from a few pages back) but I think by now, we would have seen a "left the project" notice from RLC. No....I think it's more of a medical or a close relative problem for the long UM, either with Alberto, Jade and even Martina or one of their families. The silence is deafening.

I might also venture a guess that if they did move on, would it be to Alberto's long-awaited house?

Fascinating how Martina's presence, expected presence and even Taco sparks more discussion here than what I've seen since the lovely girl left.

So nice seeing Martina on cam again. Seems like her and Alberto had a little trip down memory lane as she was gathering things she left behind. And a collective wave back at you, Martina!

I hope so too. Martina is a very independent woman but everyone needs someone in their life to share the everyday joys and sorrows. I hope she has, or will have, someone like that to make her happy. She deserves it.

Yes. I could be wrong but could it be the loss of Martina? He doesn't seem to have any bond with Jade like he had with Martina. Maybe Alberto is starting to realize what he had with her and it's really gone now. Even when things were bad, they still seemed to have a fond, personal connection to each other. I don't see that with Jade. Their relationship, even the sex, seems very superficial.

There is no "forgetting" Martina, my friend. She was an RLC treasure who many of us grew fond of over her years there. She is special compared to the present RLC participants.

I didn't see Martina as a "drama queen" at all. Quite the opposite of your definition, in my opinion. She cared for Alberto and helped him financially more than once. She was instrumental in him finally getting his house. If you want a drama queen, watch Masha for 20 minutes.

You are correct....my mistake. It is 10 Nov at 19:38. I was looking at the date it was listed under (11 Nov)which, confusingly, starts at 6AM on the day before. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

See above.

I don't get Alberto sometimes. His mind seems to be elsewhere in some of his marathon sessions with Juliet which may be the cause of his orgasm problem. Money? His new house? Martina? Your Guy sounds more attentive. He's a keeper!

😄😄😄 I bet it seems like 45 hours to Juliet! The big hug was on 11 Nov at 19:38. (Taco looks on like a little kid wondering if his parents will stay together.) Also, note what happens at 19:41:55. I think it speaks volumes about the relationship of these two.

I completely agree! That long hug between M&A in the bedroom said it all. Alberto may even kick Juliet out before that when it dawns on him that there is no other connection to his Goth Girl except the "45 hour blowjobs" that don't get the job done.

Yeah. He doesn't seem to be into it. Maybe thinking about how his true soulmate just walked out the door a little while ago, maybe forever.

Very true but the question still remains, were the conversations about GF4 or some other girlfriend of Martina's? We'll never know, but you are right. We all love to speculate on what we want the answer to be, sometimes disregarding what the truth may be.

I may be old school here, but let's not forget there is only a 50-50 chance of this since it's always been only speculation of some sort or another. The possibility exists that GF4 is just that.....a girlfriend and nothing more. It may just be the reason that she is rarely on camera, not wanting to be drawn into all the public sexual speculation about Martina. But, again, just conjecture on my part. It makes me think of that old "If a tree falls in the forest......" riddle. There really isn't any "right" answer.

I have to agree with you there, Jen. We Americans are pathologically obsessed with the trivial. There is no reason why Matthew Perry's death should have been on the network's nightly news (3 night's in a row on NBC) when so many other important things are going on in the world. Just my useless opinion but modern TV fodder AND commercials are turning viewers brains to mush. Cell phone media is also turning generations into digital morons. We need to, literally, wake up in this country and KEEP INFORMED as to what is important politically, socially, economically and environmentally. So far, we have a pretty good thing going here. Why let it slip away over what Taylor Swift wore to an awards show? ........sorry for the tangent. (Drops the mike.) LOL

"Martina left the project" With those words that I thought we'd never see, over the years, I feel I am going to do the same when my subs. to RLC runs out. Alberto and his Goth Girls are about as interesting as paint drying and there are no other apts. that have any attraction at present. The only exception may be Masha and her daily dramas. It has been interesting getting to know some of you here on CC. I am going to check in from time to time and hope you PM me if something interesting happens. Take care and be nice to each other.

What a wonderful finale for Martina by finally letting down "the fourth wall" for us, and speaking directly to her fans. A heart warming and sincere gesture from the woman (most of us) have come to love and respect over the years. Much luck and all the best to you, Martina! May your future be filled with love, happiness and success. Let us know every so often, in some form or other, how things are going with you and Taco! You will be missed! 💐💐💐

I've been waiting to see that for months. What a heart-wrenching moment! Tears from Martina and probably some from Alberto. First loves never die.

If there is a goodbye party for Martina, I'm wondering if Alberto and his Goth Girls will attend......or even GF4 for that matter.

Yes. Nice to see that for a change. it's been a stressful time for all of them. Hopefully, Martina can walk out the door, for the last time, with smiles (maybe some wistful tears?) and goodwill all around.

Hypothetically, if that was her private status, I don't see why a FWB relationship shouldn't continue at Martina's new place.