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Thanks. I feel the same about your posts. You offer good observations with no BS. You are correct about Martina being the rule-maker, certainly after her sexual revelation to Alberto. (I haven't followed them from the start so I don't know about their early years together.) As I said, his big mistake was not putting his foot down right away like Bogdan did with Nelly. But I think Alberto was afraid of losing her if he reacted too harshly about what happened. I'm sure he felt hurt, betrayed and lost and the relationship morphed, over many months, into what it is now (whatever that is.....lol) I'm glad we can share our thoughts on Martina's happiness. My view is that she may outwardly seem happy but she just doesn't seem "content" to me. Is it because she still loves Alberto, emotionally and physically, deep down inside and really doesn't want to see him with another? Are her sexual feelings confusing her? Is it her personal problems with her family, school, working and finances? Something isn't right. She seems lost sometimes......just my feeling about her. I have always liked this couple and want to see them come out of this being happy, whether it be separately or together.

Hi JenniferMom. I can't say I agree completely. When Alberto found out about Martina's new sexual preferences (did she outright TELL him that she was lesbian or bi-sexual?), he sealed his own fate by accepting it and looking the other way. I feel he did this only to keep the love of his life together with him even though it hurt him deeply. I'm not sure if he has actually decided to "move on" yet. It must have taken him quite a while to come to terms with the fact that the woman he has loved for so long went to another woman for sex. I'm sure it still eats at him. His "Juliet" fling is only that....a wild fling. A release of sexual tension and a confidence builder for him. I don't see any emotional connection there. I think Martina isn't happy about it because I'm sure she still loves him too, in her own way, but she is accepting it just as Alberto accepted her changes. My question is.....do they REALLY want to go their separate ways??? I have my doubts.

I quite agree with you, ashley. The point I was trying to make about Alberto was that, and this is strictly from a male point of view, the love of his life has a very enjoyable lesbian affair which left him doubting his own sexual ability and doubting Martina's true feelings for him, ongoing. I know I would feel the same for a long time if something like that happened in my life. The doubting and suspicion would play havoc with my relationship and love life with that person, and eventually the hurt and resentment would take it's toll. I think this is exactly what happened to M&A since the Nelly affair. Martina, the only love of his life, may have even admitted to Alberto, at some point, that she feels she is, at least, bi-sexual which only added to his mental anguish. So in order to keep her, he accepted what happened (and may still be happening) but the damage was done....and like I said, here we are. Yes, I too feel this great couple still love each other but I think it would take quite a new "normal" for them to stay together now.

I have been an off and on subscriber to RLC for about 4 or 5 years, so I haven't followed M&A from their beginning. But what drew me to this couple was their special relationship with each other......much different than most other people on RLC. It was obvious to me that there was a bond between them that was not only physical but emotional too.Their daily actions showed a real love and caring for each other. That being said, I think most of us would agree that after so many years in a relationship, people just settle down to their everyday life of work, school, household, kids (if any), meeting the bills..... and the tender moments get fewer and fewer. M&A are no different after 7 or more years together, other than being on RLC. They've had their ups and downs and got through them as most of us do. But, as I've said, I believe the fatal crack in the relationship occurred with the Nelly affair. Alberto's manhood was challenged and Martina, beautiful and as smart as she is, was suddenly confused about her sexual feelings. His mistake was accepting it instead of putting a stop to it like Bogdan did. But, I believe, he couldn't forget and from then on, Alberto felt inadequate and resentful in the relationship with this new Martina, and the crack got deeper and deeper until, now, here we are. Being the romantic that I am, I think they still have deep feelings for each other, maybe Alberto more so, but the damage between them is beyond control now. Martina may still be confused about her sexuallity, Alberto has found a temporary sexual partner to gain his confidence back and each are apparently going to follow separate roads into the future. Like all else, these things will pass for these two good people but, sadly, we will probably never know what the future holds for them, if they leave RLC.

Watching this whole cringe-worthy scenario with the three of them this evening, and knowing what came in the years before, it's a little sad to see old worlds fall apart. No matter what kind of "happy face" Martina and Alberto put on for the cameras, I would think it also must tug at their heartstrings a little. Alberto and Martina hugged each other at least twice during the evening out of sight of the other girl. To me, that speaks volumes.

And neither did they last night but the discussion was the maddest I've ever seen them at each other. But today they seem fine. I guess we all have bad days.

They had quite a heated argument in the kitchen last evening. They ended up not speaking and Martina left the bedroom at bedtime and slept in the guest room. I think it may have had something to do with Alberto's money problems, but not sure. Did you see it?

Something happened between them earlier with a somewhat heated discussion in the kitchen. I believe it may have had something to do with money and Alberto's problems with it, but I may be wrong. They both went to bed in the bedroom and now I see Martina has moved to the guest room. Any translators out there can tell us what happened?

Yes, JenniferMom (and thanks for the welcome, a few pages back), she appears to be up to this point. Just a "bit of fluff" for Alberto for physical purposes only. It's just my opinion but I think Alberto was left somewhat mentally scarred after finding out about Martina's lesbian partners , maybe losing confidence in himself that she would choose to do that over and in addition to his relationship with her. I think that was the first brick in the wall, as they say. And I'm sure Martina was (and probably still is) just as confused about who she is and what she wants. So, yes, Juliet might be just a sexual confidence builder for Alberto, right now. Nothing more, I believe. Not as long as he has that ache in his heart for Martina and they way things used to be. You can see it on his face when they are together, at times.

Observing Alberto with "Juliet", it seems to me that she is more of a fuck buddy than some think Martina was. Speaking from a strictly male point of view, Alberto is just letting off sexual steam. I don't see any emotion or intimacy there like we saw ( and still see at times) with Martina. Yes, the pairing with 'Juliet" may have come about at Martina's urging, as some have suggested, perhaps to make the parting of the ways easier for both of them, but I can't see it lasting for any amount of time. ("Juliet" is going to giggle one too many times!.....lol) I agree with what some have suggested that Martina and Alberto will ALWAYS remain best friends because of their history together and strong emotional ties. It's hard to just let that all go. Believe me, I know. And who's to say, after some time has passed,they may feel the loss of each other in their lives enough that they (after making some adjustments) may want to start anew. First love never dies.

Most of the world seems to have a date with their phone these days. Having grown up with one rotary phone in the house for the whole family, the obsessive use of cell phones by people today seems severely problematic to me......but just my useless opinion.😉 😉😉

Watching their videos from past years, M&A appeared to have a very active and passionate love life. It is my belief that the passion went out of it for Alberto after Martina's lesbian activities and the walls started to go up for both of them. I also am a romantic and would like to believe that they still have deep emotional feelings for each other but finally and sadly realize it can never be like it was.

It's always sad to see a once happy couple go their separate ways. I believe, and it's just my opinion, that Alberto still loves Martina deeply. You can tell by the way he looks at her and the small things he does......the small caresses, taking care of Taco, the cooking, the conversations...... and the other morning, before he left for work, he even got a blanket and covered Martina who was sleeping on the couch because she looked cold.....all the actions of one person who has deep feelings for the other. I think his pride was hurt when Martina opted for the lesbian affairs and he shut her out, carried a resentment towards her and just gave up. Martina responded, in kind, by shutting him out and it all went downhill from there. I believe she also still cares for Alberto, both physically and emotionally, and she will miss his presence and companionship in the weeks and months to come. Yes, she will have her lesbian adventures, but it won't be the same for her when she comes home to an empty apartment. To me, Martina....beautiful and intelligent woman that she is..... also needs a male in her life for the warmth and guidance like she got from Alberto in the good years. She won't have that with her lesbian adventures....esp. if her partners are already married as is the present case......unless she meets a compatible woman she can live and be happy with, if that's what she truly wants. I'm not certain she knows right now. Martina and Alberto.....(if you read all the fan nonsense on this site.....lol), you are both good people just trying to get through life, like the rest of us. I wish you both well and will miss you on RLC. I know there isn't any way to keep in touch but I will remain a big fan of you both and hope one day, somehow, to learn you are OK and you are happy!

This may be true but I believe there are also new family problems (the ill father?) and she may be going to see them for the weekend.

One thing I find curious......why did Alberto bring the girls to his and Martina's apartment probably knowing Martina would be there? Why not go to the girls' place, unless, of course, they still live with parents, or in a dorm, or have 3 roommates. Maybe Alberto was just thinking with his "other head" and some alcohol at the time......lol. Then there is the sad possibility that Martina doesn't care any longer what he does. She is just his roommate now.

I totally agree with your theories. No one knows EXACTLY what is going on with this couple except Martina and Alberto. They still behave like a "couple" because that's what they have been all these years. The lack of sex is PROBABLY due to Martina's APPARENT desire for the female anatomy more than the male, right now. Not sure if Alberto accepts that yet but he obviously still wants to remain close to Martina. I do think they love and care for each other but, PERHAPS no longer in a romantic way. We will all have to wait and see what happens. I wish them only good.

I agree. With all Martina has going on at present, I can't see her moving also. We don't know how close she is to her classes and work right now, so it doesn't seem logical to move away if it is convenient for her commuting. And even if Alberto moves into his house, there won't be any rush for him to move his stuff out all at once if Martina stays in the apt. It appears if there is going to be a break-up, it's going to be very amicable (yet sad for those of us who really like this couple).

My first posting here, since I just discovered this site. I've been a fan of these two for a couple of years now and am saddened by what is (apparently) happening to them. They've made a great couple together....truly caring for each other, in my opinion, with deep emotions there. It seems lately that "life" is getting in the way of their feelings for each other.....Alberto's job, his house purchase problems.....Martina's classes, her job, and her (apparent) relationship with another female. Again, just my opinion, but it just seems they are confused, deeply conflicted and angry, but not with each other. I believe the feelings still run deep (dare I say the word "love"?) in the midst of all that is going on in their lives, but they are needlessly shutting each other out when they should be depending on each other. Many couples go through periods like this. Some work through it, some do not. I believe there is still hope for Martina and Alberto in the future. Martina's relationship with the female may only be for the sex and Alberto may come to terms with that, if he hasn't already. The rest will pass eventually and life will calm down for them. I want to picture them living happily ever after in Alberto's little house with Taco and maybe a few kids. (I think Martina would be a wonderful mother.) But that's just the romantic in me and I like to look at the bright side of things.