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Il y a 4 heures, alt0na_O7 a dit :

They're coming to the line I've been saying many months. But it was too late. The spell is broken. If there's no C&S, I'm out. If Stas is not going to slap Kathy and Clara as a rematch, I'm out. The last two days, I've been browsing a few times today. Some were asleep, others were busy on the phone. For me, it doesn't contain the old taste. Bending performance is always important.. 

I quite share this feeling, the spell is broken for me too, as one might guess. I have nothing against the other tenants or course, we just all have our own likings, but as far as I am concerned that "spell" doesn't only come from what I think is her beauty and sexiness, but also from what I think is the beauty of this couple's relationship, in the way they progressively experience new things together without going beyond the limits that they have decided would jeopardize their love, making their relationship stronger as time and experiences pass. One of their greatest sins in some people's eyes is that they aren't swingers, so they are considered boring. Not for me. What would bore me would be an impression of soullessness in whichever of their actions, or the impression that they acted solely for ratings. Never was the case in what I saw of them. Such light in their eyes when one cares to look at them. And on top of that they love animals! 😉 
I'm using the present tense because surely this is going on out of our sight. Maybe they will come back some day, maybe we won't see them ever again.Probably they don't know themselves, as it may not depend on them now. I just hope and wish that times aren't and won't be hard for them and that nothing will come against that happy relationship, whether we can see them or not. 
But this isn't C&S's topic so this will be all from me about it. My wishes and support are of course for all the Odessa participants.
JMHO, as usual.

il y a 46 minutes, Amy3 a dit :

Has VHTV removed all of their tweets from the Ukrainian tenants or are they still up?

Hope so... It took them 2 days before removing all (?) mentions of them from the blog.

il y a 51 minutes, Amy3 a dit :

Listen, I live right next to Mexico, I understand how government corruption works.  If this were a gang, and VHTV didn’t comply, I don’t think we’d be seeing the story on the news and Facebook.If that’s the case, then this gang is not just a gang, it’s a Ukrainian government sanctioned gang. If that’s the case, then VHTV and the manager were completely stupid to operate there at all. 

Stupid or, worse, cynical. I hope for the 1st option, the lesser of 2 evils. I'd imagine the tenants weren't aware of the illegal aspects.

il y a 27 minutes, Amy3 a dit :

Thx! Some reassurance coming from you I would think. It’s a shame that VH isn’t doing anything themselves. 

With that said, it sounds to me like there are some tenants facing some rather serious charges that could result in imprisonment and/fines. I sincerely hope that the VHTV and managers are footing these bills and costs to defend them. 

I have a suggestion for VHTV. Consider following the laws in the countries that you operate in and these sorts of things wouldn’t happen. This is deeply embarrassing. You may disagree with the laws, but it’s not your place to break them. You put your tenants lives in jeopardy while you hide on the other side of the border. VHTV is not a simple voyeur site with cams in real people’s homes. These are cam studios and the tenants are selling their sex lives for profit. 

We don't know if VH are doing things or not. We can only hope so. In such situations - many countries/companies have had to face such situations when some of their citizens/employees were in a predicament - the frustration comes from a certain "diplomatic silence" necessary to get them out of there.
And yes, these tenants seem to risk prison and/or heavy fines. A serious situation not to be messed about by whoever can help them. Let's hope VH is up to that task...

il y a 4 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

But VHTV could do something like this: "They are good, we meet all their needs (eating, drinking, sheltering or lawyers).

... and add  something like "for they own safety please understand everyone has to keep silent"

The tenants seem to be "ok" only in so far as they apparently are not detained and are free to live in their apts. But the legal proceedings must be going on. If I was one of them I would be very cautious not to communicate, in order to avoid any further mention of my activities going public again and be used against me by whoever - probably the legitimate police - was after me. I'd fear that information in a post, a tweet or unwillingly transferred by someone else, or intercepted, might be harmful. What is at stake here is their freedom, the legal penalties facing them, so the tenants' priority is their safety, which may depend on discretion from and about them. I'm afraid the only thing we can do is be patient and supportive. IMO

il y a 9 minutes, Bonaly a dit :

I have just sent a ticket to VH requesting news of the Odessa participants and their reply is "that they are ok .The guys are looking for apartments."I assume other VH subs.have sent a ticket as well and got the same reply?.

This would mean 2 things :
1. they are still free
2. they may be looking for cheaper places, not being paid anymore and only relying on the incomes of those who have another job.

il y a 5 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

If a company does not care about its customers, it does not care about its employees too. I hope this isn't happening right now. 😞 

I share the same hope, and the hope that their silence is precisely because they are caring about their employees' safety. 

In their announcement, VH mentioned that only 1 person, not a participant, had been detained for some time. My guess is that while investigations are on their way the participants are in their houses (till the end of their monthly lease at least or longer if they can afford it), that their computers and phones, etc, have been confiscated, and that they can't or won't communicate for security reasons : the less is said, the less evidence against them. Maybe VH doesn't communicate either for the same reasons. Maybe.

VH could at least say if the participants are still fine and explain at what stage they are globally in the proceedings. But if they did, how can we be sure they would or could tell the truth ? 
Indeed that silence is cause for deep worry about the tenants 😞   But unfortunately we may have no news before long and hope is the only thing left to us. And the expression of our support for them.

Sharing these pictures while the problems were going on, and their silence, may have been part of VHTV's protection strategy. I don't think we'll be told much about the situation, for safety reasons.

il y a 3 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

The managers A & L did yesterday sharing the valentines day many times via twitter. this was taken at another address if the photos were not taken on a previous date. they may have trapped all the participants together at a single address. 

These photos were taken at K&M's during a gathering for that purpose, some weeks ago.

il y a 36 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

I don't want to be pessimistic but Clara is 16 hours and Stas hasn't logged into CC for 12 hours. they entered here every day, at least 10 times a day. their phones may have been confiscated, or they may have been moved to a location without Internet access.
hopefully they are good.

I had noticed that too. They logged it about twice in the afternoon, and nothing after that

They may also have been told not to use the internet in order not to be spotted.

I also try not to be pessimistic...

Il y a 9 heures, Sparkles a dit :

At least was the only one mentioned by twitter to be offline (but don't know at that time if the others was still listed

When I noticed that the logos had disappeared from C&S's cams I checked if it was the case in another Odessa house (it wasn't) and I think that C&D's house was already marked offline, if my memory is ok. I then imagined that there was technical work starting on the whole Odessa VH system. A look at C&S's timeline after lunch time showed the morning had been as usual there, with Clara going out but not in a rush. But those logos disappearing show that something was already going on.

VHTV want to be reassuring in their blog, to show that they handle the situation. But the passage about the participants's safety being their priority shows that these participants are quite in a predicament, if their situation implies moving them to other countries, as mentioned in the blog. 

I'm  afraid that even if they are OK, we won't see these people before long, if ever.  I do  hope I'm wrong and, most important, that they are safe and OK.

I think - but am not sure - C & D's house was marked off line first, before all the other houses disappeared. Don't know if this is relevant with what is happening.

Anyway, Clara and Stas, and other Odessa participants, if you can read this, be sure we hope the best for you. 
Sincerely hoping to see you back in a near future, or at least to have good news from / about you. 

At last VHTV gives news here

https://voyeur-house.tv/blog/2019/02/14/temporary-apartments-shutdown-announcement/

VHTV's deafening silence - not even the usual pretext of "technical issues" coud give rise to all sorts of speculations and interpretations. Are the participants even allowed to communicate?

il y a 8 minutes, ashteaduk1 a dit :

Just raised a ticket with VH - got an immediate reply - my ticket said there were a number of houses missing from the list, would they be back soon.  This is the reply:

 

Hello,

We are aware of this issue and we're fixing it right now. We'll let you know as soon as we finish fixing it.
Sorry for inconvenience.

Sincerely yours,
Voyeur House TV
 

Your Voyeur House TV Team,
Best regards,
Voyeur-House Support.

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We hope this response has sufficiently answered your questions. If not, please do not send another email. Instead, reply to this email or login to your account for a complete archive of all your support requests and responses.

This is an automatic reply - that's why it was immediate. Doesn't give any clue about what's going on...😠

It started this morning, as these logos were already off when I did my last caps. 

il y a 4 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

there is only this..

 

Yes. 😞 

I noticed that the VH logos had disappeared from every cam at C&S, in the bathroom it had been replaced by "Camera 1". I suppose there is some work on the VH Odessa houses systems.

il y a 2 minutes, alt0na_O7 a dit :

Why does this home not on the VHTV list?
Has VHTV issued an announcement?

Not the only one to have disappeared. C & D, K & M, etc. Work on the Odessa houses ? No announce from VH it seems

"Hey! what are you looking at ?!"

"None of your pussy jokes!"

Stas seems to have had to work later than expected (phone call to Clara). I guess they decided that after a short night and a 14-hour working day they'd better have a quiet evening rather than a party even if the meeting wasn't cancelled. 

They must have been talking about pleasant things...😋 

Il y a 6 heures, alt0na_O7 a dit :

You look crappy this morning, man. I think you need to quit your job in your shop. go to work at this hour? yet you have just come from the other job..

I'm not sure it would be wise for Stas to quit his job. Some day they may have to or wish to quit VH and it is better to keep that safer job and income, although these 2 activities are quite a workload for Stas, and for Clara who certainly wishes it was lighter 🙂. IMHO

This game will be for next time...