I haven't read the responses yet, jimbo4 but it appears I am in the minority when trying to handle people with some care. At this point I am just gonna say fuck it and throw caution to the wind. I'm tired of trying to get to the bottom of problems when NOBODY and I mean NOBODY wants to listen to reason. Only Stncld316 listens to me and I try not to tax him too much. Any way he only offers limited guidance because he can only do so much. At least he doesn't make assumptions and draw conclusions before even knowing WTF I'm trying to get at. This entire thread disgusts me lately with people trying to do, whatever the hell they are trying to do. None of it ever makes sense to me and NOBODYT EVER EVER EVER explains themselves when I ask for an explanation. They remind me of my ex-wife "You should already know". Well I don't and if you can't find the words, goodbye. Then just continue to whine and drone on with your rhetoric. You people know who you are and to hell with you. I am going it on my own so don't ask me for any favors or input or anything. I'll do as I please so stay out of my way.