DWI

11 hours ago, yelt said:

Thanks for responding.  My apologizes. Thought you mentioned some time ago on the forum about not hearing Martina speak English. She speaks it well in this insert. In fact I heard a mp4 of her short video resume in english.  It was communicated to me about this latest, funny but English speaking adventure and I thought I would share. 

I too suppose for the moment, the relationship is a FWB circumstance. In reading the numerous posts on their special night out, I also believe it was either a threesome for Martina, or perhaps the comments which sounded as if many took offensive was about a first time OF video taping.  But we may never know unless it is published. 

If some star can do the OF thing and make money, why can’t Martina. If successful, it surely would make her much more euros than RLC pays. And they are trying hard to get out of there. I also have to say there are a lot more models out there (in Barcelona) that might make Martina look…well let’s just say average. 

Another item before rounds and I get tormented over the fire; for Martina to enjoy the romance of loving making, have good sex (which in her case leaves a whole lot to be desired), to have a real deep strong excitable wet orgasm, not one in which she thinks she’s had through masturbating or even with the pretense of Nelly, but an extended level of sexual excitement, climax 2 or 3 times in one session;  It will take a great deal more reading, meditation, practice and guidance.  
 

Hi yelt,

      I also remember a phone conversation Martina had on cam which appeared to involve some type of interview with someone on the other end of the line. Two things struck me about the phone call: first, how fluent Martina was in English...she was easily undertandable. Secondly, and I've bee thinking about this for a while now, I am almost possitive I heard Martina say her real name and it kind of shocked me. I know we can't divulge any tenant's real name but if someone here also remembers the phone conversation and the name Martina used, can you PM me? Is that legal here?

17 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I love this post.  As my friend DD would say:

EXCELLENT SAID!

(Of course he would add a dozen fucking emoji’s!)

Good morning Jen. Thanks for your nice words.

6 minutes ago, Adalbert said:

A therory for sure  but a bit difficult to understand and I think we overestimate the influence of Nelly, Bogdan and of the forum.🤔

I too think you're correct here. The presumtion that Martina and Alberto were together with Nelly and Bogdan last night seems like pure speculation which just can't be proven, once again. Sure, if a tryst between the four of them ever happens on camera I'd be the first in line to watch that! But at this point, just to keep my sanity, I've adopted the " If I can't see it,  I can't believe it" approach. If its off-camera, none of us knows if it happened or not. As good as a couple of translators can sometimes be, they're not perfect. So right now, the most plausible speculation would be that Martina and Alberto went out for a romantic evening together...whether it involved sex between them, who knows. Although the sexy lingerie might suggest that. But we can't be certain. Like most of us on the forum I would be happy for them if they did have a nice evening together outside the apartment. But for me, I just don't want to waste anymore time speculating about stuff because too me, that borders on fantasy. It used to be fun to read over the last few years but I've just grown tired of all the speculation...although its really funny to read Girlsfun's posts...she does bring a lot of needed humor to the forum and I appreciate her effort to keep us from taking things that happen between Martina and Alberto too seriously. I enjoy her "fly by the seat of her pants" take on things. So thanks Girlsfun for your attitude and energy.

41 minutes ago, tle said:

Yes. She doesn't need anything.. and I don't like long nails... But girls like to pamper themselves with the manicures and pedicures and I'd like to see her just let hers graaow a little (not too long) and get them done... She is self conscious of their length but I think they're magnificent....

Martina's nails, both hands and feet, are perfect. The way she keeps both her hands and feet nails reminds me so much of how Eva in Russia kept hers...always at an attractive length....as much as I do like Holly, I don't get the really long finger nails. I think Martina has the nicest feet...probably in the top 5 of all current and past tenants...but of course that's just a personal opinion. Like tle and others have said, she is a naturally very pretty woman. Some would say "stunning"  and I would not disagree. I can't believe I'm talking about womens' nails length...what's the forum comming to?

1 hour ago, Adalbert said:

"you can leave your socks on..." might can get a new hit...😂

Oh yes..brings back memories of Joe Cocker's "You Can Leave Your Hat On" from the film "9 1/2 Weeks" with Kim Basinger. An unbelievably erotic and sensual scene...no sex, but just pure eroticism. For those who have never seen the movie, give it try...very outside the norm for Hollywood flicks...almost classified as an NC-17 rating but the producers fought and got the R rating. One of the best songs ever in an erotic film...period!

4 hours ago, nagachilli2 said:

As long as I've got a hole in my arse, Heidi and Flipper was, and always will be, the best...IMO of course 😁

Yes, they were great. As much as I really enjoyed the Martina/Nelly trysts, I think my favorite were the girl-girl escapades involving Eva her various girlfriends and occassionally Eva's boyfriend Sam who took part in some FFM threesomes. They were always slower paced than the Martina/Nelly events but more sensual and at the same time very kinky with a lot of anal sex. Oh to have those Russian apartments back. Even Nelly back then was enjoyable to watch.

6 minutes ago, Noldus said:

Martina's class mate on visit 

All M&A cams are down here...just replay is available.Anyone else having issues?

58 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Do you really believe this?  Lots of committed loving couples make love after drinking and perhaps drugs.  It helps get people into the mood.  Married couples might be stressed from jobs and kids but after a couple of cocktails ... they make love.  They LOVE each other but the alcohol allows their love to cut through all the stress and noise.  It is quite possible this is what we are seeing with Nelly and Martina.  They both know what they are doing is wrong.  If sober, they will try to be true to their men, etc.  But a bit of alcohol allows their true love to emerge.  You seem to be saying that only people who fuck sober truly love each other.  I don't think you mean that.

Exactly.  Martina visited the Villa because of Nelly because she loved Nelly and perhaps still does.  You are contradicting yourself my good friend.  If she continued to visit the Villa after Nelly's departure, you might convince me her love for Nelly is not there.  DDHM suggested Martina's first interest was Holly.  So why not visit Holly, especially if she still wants bisexual experiences?  I believe the answer to this is that she loves Nelly and won't cheat on her with Holly ... not until at least the flame between Martina/Nelly has flamed out.

So before anyone attacks me for violating the break from action I just talked about ... this technically is the post that apparently got lost overnight!

Hi JenMom,

      Well, its so nice to see your post here. I chimed in early yesterday and made pretty much the exact same points as you did here on this post...its always great to have someone be on the same wavelengh when it comes to point of views. My post yesterday was not met with great support so hopefully yours will be. Anyway, I too am trying to not post on the subject anymore but I felt I needed to support your post also. Thanks again.

17 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

Enough of the bickering.  It has been carrying on over the last 2 or 3 days.  Time to put the matter to rest and move on.

 

Absolutely! Enough is enough...let's just let it all play out. We know nothing right now.

1 minute ago, Deepdave said:

There is something wrong with their love if they need booze and/or drugs to consumate the act.  It is not love.  It is unconsious sex.  Hundreds of millions of people do do this, but it's not true love.   

I can just tell you from my experience with my bisexual wife and her best friend for over 40 years, I have to stand by my words...that's why JenMom's words ran so true to me. Let's agree to disagree ok.

16 minutes ago, Deepdave said:

I have said that it looks like Martina wants to be Nelly's friend.  And when they are not drunk they are able to have this friendship.  But  their meetings sometimes turn to drinking and smoking.  And when the drinking and smoking went too far, the other night happened.  That is not love.  And now perhaps Martina is upset about what happened.  And this has created so much conversation in the forum.  And we know that the forum can be very aggressive with all sorts of madeup stories and theories and opinions and calling each other names.  And we know that this affects Martina and Alberto. Perhaps we should stop. 

Hi Deepdave,

Well, as I told JenMom, I am trying so hard to stay out of these conversations about Martina and Nelly because I basically feel none of us knows shit about what's really going on between them behind the scenes..just translations and speculations...which I have to admit is "fun" to read as entertainment. I think that you're right to suggest we "cool the jets" a bit on this discussion. I think JenMom has the most logical approach to all of this after reading her recent posts.

I respect your posts too and always enjoy them even though sometimes I have a different take on things...but that's what a good forum is all about...give and take. So, in that vein, I do disagree with you when you say "that is not love" when talking about Martins's and Nelly's relationship where drinking is involved. It is absolutely PART of most people's love-life...we party, we get drink too much, and then we go home and have sex...or maybe even in a parking lot. Normal behavior. It really has nothing to do with love...its about being drunk, high or whatever. Hundreds of millions of really good people do this. Now, I do believe Nelly has some drinking issues...plain to see. But, maybe Martina does also at times. But the underlying thing here is that this happens all the time with people who are in love with each other. My subjective opinion is that these two women are deeply in love with each other...whether that's right or wrong, I can't be the judge. I can say no more than that. Thanks for your honest post.

33 minutes ago, ddhm said:

A sex site it is and we still get the M&A treatment , however I haven’t ever seen any other couple that has ever been presented as an official declared couple at RLC cheating in such an obvious way and so many people here instead of commenting negative , on the contrary encouraging it . The fates of couples are boring because - due to the cameras limitations most probably - aren’t allowing such a normal “ look “ in their personal lives , which was happening easier while the Russian apartments were live . 
 

I personally enjoy mostly seeing guests , having my voyeur instinct and feeling 100% alerted 😂 so as to see Candela , Marta or Martina’s brother lover being naked or do anything on camera .I am ecstatic if we manage to see anything from Masha’s cleaning lady or whoever enters her apartment as a guest . I like when at Linda’s and Tibor’s many times in these 4 years we have seen Linda’s friends being naked on cameras .I like when the glasses guy visits Kitty and Smith and Kitty is teasing him . For the sexual adventures , boyfriends , fun , unpredictability and whatever sexually extreme , we have the Barcelona apartments where most girls do exactly that , holidays , no matter that the last 1,5 years RLC has lost control with the girls they allow to enter and the bonus cut which has led to poor - in the majority - action.

 

Haven’t i watched Nelly and Martina ? Sure I did , I even made the play by play in the first one i think 😂😂🤣 Personally , my interest declined in each interaction  after the marathon in current Olivia’s and Ulyana’s room and I didn’t  even bother to watch them during the famous Alberto in the LR playing and the girls fucking in the bedroom ,  I just wasn’t excited like the first times and i think I was also a bit “ offended “ as a man watching the apathy of a guy that his 9 years girlfriend was fucking  her lover inside his own apartment and him just swallowing that easily , like having no choice or pretending ( I honestly  can’t think that he didn’t bother at all ) that it is fine .

 

Yes , if we had to choose cheating behind someone’s back or confessing , for sure talking openly about it , it is the best .But excuse me , this doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating at the major grade either way .Yes , things have happened in  Martina’s life off cameras through the years , things she has shared with Alberto , but it was always off camera .This now went to the other level , it wasn’t only an on camera thing but it was also with a married woman . I guess then that if they get married and this life continues outside RLC or even if they remain a simple couple , this behavior should  be accepted ? What’s the point of having others in our lives if we aren’t respecting them ? Then , each and every temptation that we all get daily in our routine lives should be confronted this way , we go to our girlfriend or boyfriend and  because we share all , we say “ you know what ? I fucked another girl / guy , I just wanted you to know “ .I just want to say that if we lose the society  rules , we simply lose our civilization . If they were open relationship couples ( Masha and Sasha as they showed us , Sam and Eva )  , I would be perhaps the first that I would encourage watching more and more action. But here we speak of a married couple that the guy has repeatedly expressed his annoyance and I think he is forgiving continuously his wife and she just takes advantage of it and as for Martina , she’s taking advantage of a guy that as we say in my country “ despite having a mouth , he doesn’t open it so as to speak and be heard “.

 

As always , it is my personal opinion and approach after the last parking lot incident that whatever occurred , it was once again a more than friendly encounter of these two women . I will keep on saying it and sorry for the ones opposing it , if there’s love and the girls can’t handle it ,  break up with the guys , ask RLC to give you an apartment and become the first ever official bisexual couple and just enjoy life without worries and /or problems .And  let’s see then how much popularity and viewership M&N will enjoy having their own place ( personally I believe that after a month or two the comments will be half of what they are during their ongoing “  behind the scenes “ relationship ) .

Hi ddhm,

   Well, the fact you mentioned the open relationships of some of the Russian apartments during the "glory days" of RLC like Sam/Eva, Masha/Sasha/Dasha ( and of course Jane/Dick), to me strengthens your belief that you're really speaking to the morality of "cheating" which of course means different things to different people. But, your point of view on cheating is well taken now that you've  expressed more tolerance towards "open" relationships. I definitely respect your belief that the Martina/Nelly affair was immoral...I can easily see how you and others could feel that way and I never want to question anyone's belief in that...except to say that I believe that Martina and Alberto do have an "open" relationship just like some of the former Russian couples because they talk about it openly...there doesn't seem to be too many secrets between them....and Alberto clearly knows what's going on...to me that's clearly an "open" relationship. However, the situation between Nelly and Bogdan, seems to fall closer to your belief in "cheating" as it does appear, like you said, that Bogdan does not approve of the Martina/Nelly affair. So, I agree with you there...Nelly IS cheating on Bogdan. My final point...the Martina/Nelly thing is pretty complicated when really studying it, as Jen Mom often tells us. I think all of us need to just let it all play out, hopefully on cam, so we can all really figure it out...I really have no idea where the Martina/Nelly thing stands right now and I don't even want to begin to speculate. But, as always I read your posts and always feel I learn something that I never thought of. Thanks for your thought-provoking post...and sorry for the essay. Like a bunch of us, we just don't know how to say things in a few words.

14 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

Now you’re saying Nelly raped Martina?  
 

And I get accused of psychoanalysis and crazy speculations??? 
 

Nelly and Martina are hot for each other.  This is undeniable.  Martina is trying to be restrained.  But she can’t help it, especially under the influence of alcohol.

She regrets what she did apparently.  
 

We don’t know much more than this.  
 

This must be a new record for crazy speculations without even 10 seconds of video evidence.  This is not directed at Deepdave who I respect but is a comment on all these posts over the last 48 hours.  
 

My only issue with Deepdave and others (and I say this with utmost respect) is that Yelt and Girlsfun and others (me?) get accused of projecting our fantasies on Martina and Alberto … which perhaps is true who knows.  But it goes both ways.  Deepdave believes this is a normal couple and everything is cool.  He may be right but this is him projecting as well.  We simply don’t know.  
 

This last meet with Nelly and Martina happened off cam apparently in a parking lot.  That’s all we really know.  I keep hearing we should trust our translators … OK … if I am not mistaken I saw a post by Noldus and the great and almighty EMNV when asked if Nelly and Martina fucked in a parking lot and they both said “yes”.  
 

So to my friend Deepdave … if everything is normal here … how does one half of a normal couple fuck in a parking lot behind the back of her significant other?

Sorry for the emotional post.  

Hi Jen,

    I totally agree with everything you are saying here...we really don't know shit about the encounter. I kept reading all the translations and speculations and I decided to not chime in with a post as it just seemed ludicrous. None of us know what actually happened, including the translators who try to do a great job, but sometimes even they can be a little bit off. There is no visual evidence of the encounter nor actual recorded sound during the meeting. For me, without that, I have no idea what actually happened and until there is more "proof" I really don't want to waste my time speculating. Thanks for your very rational post.

17 minutes ago, darkman said:

1 - what I wrote with letters, was what martina and alberto spoke at 2.30 when she arrived drunk.

2- I don't know where you get that it was from a hacked text from whatssap or mail. I never said anything like that.

3- she said they did not fuck, which Alberto questioned.

4- I don't follow what they speak for 24 hours, so I put it in an interpretation of a 10-minute conversation.

5- My personal opinion is that someone does not go on a date, knowing what is going to happen and then says no, smoking and drinking, I personally think that if they fucked, it is my opinion.

Hello again Darkman,

I need to apologize to you. I misunderstood the language in your post as coming from a text you saw. I now understand it was from a conversation you were trying to translate be tween Martina and Alberto. I'll be more careful next time. Sorry.

1 minute ago, nagachilli2 said:

They weren't...🥴

I meant to say texts, not emails...sorry. But it seems like we are talking about in-person conversations at home between Martina and Alberto. Am I right? If so, I still see no mention of Nelly. I don't quite get that we should infer they're talking about Nelly...especially when some of us suspect Martina of having relationships with other women...but I apologize that that is also speculation. I just think none of us really knows if the Martina/Nelly affair is over...although I do suspect it is...but I don't really know, despite some translations.

8 minutes ago, yelt said:

Hello DWI,  I read the post from Darkman and understood it was a conversation between Alberto and Martina upon her return home at 2:35am. I am also told it was part of the conversation had between Martina with her friend earlier today. 

Thanks Yelt. But can you maybe explain how Martina's emails could have been hacked by Darkman? I that an easy thing to do?

4 hours ago, darkman said:

TEXTUALLY at 02:35 drunk. Drugged.

Martina - I was in a parking lot and she got shirtless, hugged me, kissed me, told me that she misses me, moaning while we kissed, she told me come with me and I told her, wait sitting, I took a taxi and I came.

Aberto - he asks, have you fucked?

martina - no 

she says enough damage did me (or something like that) 

Alberto - Has he smoked, right?

martina - if we have smoked joints 

Alberto - you didn't answer me on whatsaap, you son of a bitch, you missed each other

Martina - says about the other girl that she is crazy 

Alberto - both crazy 

He doesn't say it but he was with Nelly 100%.

Hi Darkman,

      I have several questions about your post.

           *First, how did you intercept Martin's text messages? Isn't that illegal? I'm a senior in the U.S. so I might be behind in understanding how people can hack into someone's text massages with just normal software. Can you explain that for us folks wgo don't understand such things?

      *Can you show digital proof that what you say was said can be proven?

      * I see no specific mention in the convvesation about Nelly. If your intercepted text is valid... why then are people assuming that Martina is talking about Nelly?

I don't know, but I like many, I think that the affair is, regretffully, over. I enjoyed every moment of it except when Nelly got drunk to the point she coudn't stand up. I think that your text recording needs more proof that it is a legitimate "hacked" text. No disrespect, but maybe I just don't understand the freedoms allowed now to intercept someone's private texts.

10 minutes ago, philo said:

Last year was Martina's declaration of independence to the RLC audience. For me, her going out without panties last night is a sign of her continuing her agency into the new year... a spirit that I admire. 

Hi Philo, 

I think Martina is, as we all know, an exhibitionist...thank god! I think she is the most open, natural woman currently on RLC and I hope that RLC understands that, although Holly and Tweety are promising in their openess. I have admit that I really miss her escapades with Nelly which I found highly erotic. I must say I love her bisexuality, not common for such a beautiful woman...but I might be wrong about that...some of the women here might correct me on this. Bi-sexuallity among women might be more prevalent than I think. Anyway, thanks for your observation.

2 hours ago, corvette84 said:

So if someone has a cold, it's covid? You people are out of your brainwashed minds.🙄

Hi Corvette,

    Although I am totally pro-vaccine and pro-masking in enclosed spaces, I think you do raise a good point. Just because someone has the sniffles or coughs doesn't mean they have Covid...it's winter in the Northern Hemisphere, so that means flu-season and common cold season co-exists with Covid. I just think we need to be careful now about attributing everything as Covid. Maybe soon there will be a test to distinguish whether someone has Covid or the flu...maybe that already exists, I don't know. Anyway, thanks for your insight.

This is such an interesting and entertaining  event between Radi, Masha and Tweety. It is very real. But like JenMom has been saying forever, just imagine how great it would be if someone, anyone, could translate these conversations between these three ladies in English, Spanish and other languages without revealing their identities or private RLC stuff that would violate their contracts. It seems like Masha and Radi really like Tweety a lot...and it is apparent that Tweety is a very open woman in her personality. Maybe everything they talked about is stuff RLC doesn't want translated but just a accurate synopsis by someone, anyone, would add so much to subs understanding and enjoyment. JenMom, are you reading this? You could do a better job than I here,

5 minutes ago, DWI said:

So, when someone blames the "Demoncrats" for the Covid spread, and you're a life-long Democrat, I don't have the right to respond to the lies and misinformation  being spread by a Republican? So, do you believe that vaccinated and pro-mask wearing "Democrats" are responsible more than the anti-vaccine and anti-mask wearing people for the spread of all Covid cases? You don't believe that Democrats, thoughtful Republicans and Independents have the right to dispute that?  I personally believe that unvaccinated and un-masked people are primarily responsible for the spread. When you say its not a political issue, I agree...it shoudn't be. It's an American issue. But do you really believe that the State of Florida is at the forefront of effective state policies to stop the spread of Covid? Come on, get real.

So, I'm done with this conversation as it came to the responses I expected. I I wll NOT read any more responses to my post...I've spoken my thoughts and that's it. I hope nobody catches Covid no matter what their politics. Goodnight and thanks for listening no matter what your views are,

35 minutes ago, tle said:

We shouldn't get political and divisive but lets blame our Republican governor and Fox news... Really?

So, when someone blames the "Demoncrats" for the Covid spread, and you're a life-long Democrat, I don't have the right to respond to the lies and misinformation  being spread by a Republican? So, do you believe that vaccinated and pro-mask wearing "Democrats" are responsible more than the anti-vaccine and anti-mask wearing people for the spread of all Covid cases? You don't believe that Democrats, thoughtful Republicans and Independents have the right to dispute that?  I personally believe that unvaccinated and un-masked people are primarily responsible for the spread. When you say its not a political issue, I agree...it shoudn't be. It's an American issue. But do you really believe that the State of Florida is at the forefront of effective state policies to stop the spread of Covid? Come on, get real.

5 minutes ago, DWI said:

Hello Spying. I have done my darndest to stay out of this Covid discussion as there are always some people who spew terrible misinformation and I realize no amount of rational discussion will change the minds of the conspiracy theorists...they simply need to believe the bullshit in order to feel "whole". It's tragic...but I've decided to chime in here about your post as it is crazy. I too live in Florida, which everyone knows is a strong Repubican state and whose Governer has done everything possible to allow the virus to spread all in the name of "personal freedom". Personal freedom? WTF man. Personal freedom to knowingly refuse to wear a mask because you feel you have the God-given right to infect others...and if you do infect them, oh well, "personal freedom" says they were "just in the wrong place at the wrong time". Typical MAGA bullshit. Personal freedom to refuse to get the vaccines because Fox News says the vaccines are a hoax and do not work? Give me break. Gee, I wonder why ALL Fox News personnel are vaccinated to the max...oh yeh, you're gonna say they were "forced" to and if Fox News didn't require it, the Fox News anchors to get vaccinated, they would have in protest, to get all three all 3 of them. Give me a break! Do you really think that conservative multi-millionaires are not fully vaccinated to the hilt? Your suggestion that "Demoncrats", as you call them, catch and spread all Covid and it variants more than Republicans is offensive...simply propaganda BULLSHIT. I wish you and others of all political persuations that they do not catch the Covid virus, but you must stop blaming the "Demoncrats" for the spread...it's morally wrong...you have to know that, I hope. Your words in your post are divisive are at best...we need to come together as one nation to defeat this thing. Stay healthy.

As a correction, I meant to say, that I hope Spying's words ARE divisive and uncalled for, when what we need, as Americans, to come together, join hands, forget about politics and to help each other stay alive,

4 hours ago, SPYING 1 said:

All I can say is that my demon 😈 crats friends who are vaccinated and had their booster shots and also wear mask 😷 have gotten covid-19 & I on the other hand isn't vaccinated or nor I wear a mask, in FLORIDA it's optional haven't been sick from covid-19 

Hello Spying. I have done my darndest to stay out of this Covid discussion as there are always some people who spew terrible misinformation and I realize no amount of rational discussion will change the minds of the conspiracy theorists...they simply need to believe the bullshit in order to feel "whole". It's tragic...but I've decided to chime in here about your post as it is crazy. I too live in Florida, which everyone knows is a strong Repubican state and whose Governer has done everything possible to allow the virus to spread all in the name of "personal freedom". Personal freedom? WTF man. Personal freedom to knowingly refuse to wear a mask because you feel you have the God-given right to infect others...and if you do infect them, oh well, "personal freedom" says they were "just in the wrong place at the wrong time". Typical MAGA bullshit. Personal freedom to refuse to get the vaccines because Fox News says the vaccines are a hoax and do not work? Give me break. Gee, I wonder why ALL Fox News personnel are vaccinated to the max...oh yeh, you're gonna say they were "forced" to and if Fox News didn't require it, the Fox News anchors to get vaccinated, they would have in protest, to get all three all 3 of them. Give me a break! Do you really think that conservative multi-millionaires are not fully vaccinated to the hilt? Your suggestion that "Demoncrats", as you call them, catch and spread all Covid and it variants more than Republicans is offensive...simply propaganda BULLSHIT. I wish you and others of all political persuations that they do not catch the Covid virus, but you must stop blaming the "Demoncrats" for the spread...it's morally wrong...you have to know that, I hope. Your words in your post are divisive are at best...we need to come together as one nation to defeat this thing. Stay healthy.

17 hours ago, EMMETT111 said:

other than Masha and Sasha and Eva and Sam i cant remember any other actual swingers on here

Don't forget another great Russian couple... Jane and Dick. Their threesomes with their young guest Jewel were awesome and their now imfamous foursome with Masha and Sasha was legendary. They actually visited Masha in Rome after their Russian apartment was shut down and had some pretty eventful sex during the visit. Like Eva and Sam, there were always great sexual surprises with them. That is what I miss most with the current crop of tenants...spontanaity and surprises.