corboblanc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 is easy to see here the difference in perspective between European and US !!!! I'm french, so I have a different view of my American friends .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozi Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 is easy to see here the difference in perspective between European and US !!!! I'm french, so I have a different view of my American friends .... So France is not part of Europe anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corboblanc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 is easy to see here the difference in perspective between European and US !!!! I'm french, so I have a different view of my American friends .... So France is not part of Europe anymore? euhh, yes ..... that's why !!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 is easy to see here the difference in perspective between European and US !!!! I'm french, so I have a different view of my American friends .... So France is not part of Europe anymore? Ask any Frenchman, and he'll tell you that Europe is the part of France that is still occupied by heathens. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaky Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Foamy, Foamy, you just took a steep drop in my book. Now you're just talking like the hundreds who have been brainwashed by the White House and the western media. Putin didn't annex nothing. For your information, Crimea was originally a part of Russia. He simply offered the Crimean people to come back under the legislature and protection of Russia. "Now you're just talking like the hundreds who have been brainwashed by the White House and the western media." Are you kidding me? I consider the White House and the Western Media to be the most dangerous current threat to my liberty and my Constitution. The administration of Crimea was transferred from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954. Perhaps he truly is protecting ethnic Russians, but I'm also inclined to believe that he wants to retain operational control of Russia's only decent warm water port. That's a no-brainer. Personally, I think taking Iran would provide him with some excellent port facilities and increase his market share of oil reserves and most Americans wouldn't complain one bit. The part that you overlook, and that is problematic, is that Russia already attacked Georgia, and the excuse that "he wants to protect his people" is the same excuse Hitler used to invade the Sudetenland. And, in terms of technology, Putin wields more dictatorial power than Hitler could even dream of possessing. My opinion is that interfering in civil wars is futile, especially when they occur in areas that have a long tradition of turmoil, uncivilized behavior and violence. Like Europe, for instance. Are you fucking shitting me? Russia attacked Georgia? Georgia attacked Southern Osetia (under the direction of George Bush) wanting to control all Georgian territories. Same fucking story that is happening right now in Ukraine. A sizable part of Southern Osetia's population are Russian people. Understandably, Russia sent their peacekeeping forces to protect their people's lives. And comparing Putin to Hitler? And his presidency to dictatorship? How fucking dare you? I see that all your comments paraphrase Wikipedia. But you can't believe everything Wikipedia says when it comes to warfare and politics. Now you're just pissing me off, so I'm gonna stop before my "peacekeeping" jaws attack your western-clensed nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Relax Snaky. I'm not comparing Putin to Hitler, even though people who wield absolute power have a few things in common. I was comparing the act of moving into another country with the excuse that "It's to protect my citizens," has often been used whether legitimate or not. It would be better to compare Hitler with Stalin, especially when it comes to the millions of Ukrainians that Stalin starved to death. I work with ethic Russians and Ukrainians (many came here for religious reasons). The older ones hate each other. At the largest of our farmer's markets, their booths are purposely separated and occupy different sections to avoid unpleasant verbal exchanges. This Ukrainian situation is ugly, and neither Putin or the West have been helpful in lessening the tensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitek Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklUdwiiuGE English subtitles to this video are available. Switch them on in settings in the bottom right corner of the video. Click the subtitles icon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foamy T. Squirrel Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If anyone knew whether Paul was in the air force or the army, it would be Snaky. I suspect this question will never be answered. http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-is-building-a-psychological-firewall-against-the-west-2015-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cho Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Back to the Cold War ! Drop us with your bullshit. The truth is out and you only propagate caricatures... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Isshin1882 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 From what I saw Paul is still a conscript in the Russian military (They are conscripted from 12 to 16 months depending on how useful you are). He is with the engineering Corp which is it's own branch. He is most likely going to school atm and taking training/teaching other conscript till he is done. Since the Eng is it's own branch he most likely doesn't work with planes, helicopters and what not. With the insignia tho he is most likely stationed at an Air Force base but not in the Air Forces it's self. Conscript's don't get the best of anything from uniforms to compensation. They can be kind of considered like the territorial army or national guard. But end the end they are there ti help fill spots and serve as backed up to base operations. They do not see fighting unless there is an all out war like the world wars. The way things are going in the world. That next World War is not that far off. Obama is a cluster fuck for sure but he isn't that stupid. As for Putin, He can pull shit like he is in Ukraine but he doesn't have the money or the clout to get the whole country into war. Eastern russian forces would never go along with it. They have no love for the US and the West, but they know it is wasteful and useless to go to war with out any real reason and wouldn't be fooled by Putin into going to war. In the eastern part of Russia they are not loyal to Moscow they are loyal to Russia and the people. So Putin can't get them to go long in much. They will not send troops to Ukraine. If there was ever an all out war you can make a safe bet that Putin wouldn't be in charge for long. Many respected leaders are in the East and they would push for a real "Iron Man" to rule Russia, not Mr. Putie no shirt. Unless you have additional information, how can you be certain he is wearing an air force insignia? The artillery insignia is almost identical so without a clearer image we can't be certain of anything. Engineers in the Russian Army have a very distinctive insignia, again almost identical to the air force and artillery, but with two broad axes with long narrow handles instead of propellers or canons, so definitely not what we have seen in the images. I would be very surprised if the Russian military are different to any other military. Army wear army, navy wear navy and air force wear air force. I'm in the army and have been posted to a number of dual or tri-service bases, as well as an army contingent at an air force base. I wouldn't be caught dead wearing navy or air force insignia, even if I was allowed to. If you have additional or different facts or information, I'd been keen to read it. It's Air Force and he's an Eng. He is still a conscript you can tell by the style of the uniform. The patch which is Air Force tells that he is in the AF. (the propeller, if he was arty it's be two cannons.) The back ground to his patch is black noting he is in the engineering field (black on patches is used to identify Eng, red for infantry and orange for arty and so on...) The only other black used in Russian military uniforms is the navy. and no he isn't with the navy the insignia would have anchors on it and no he can't be in the navy they are not near a naval base. conscripts stay near their home towns unless they have specific training or skills then they would be sent to other area's so all you have to do is look up the city they are in and see the 2 base that are close by. The main base is not a big one or many unit's and the one that does the training is smaller. that narrows it down a bit for ya, enjoy the lurking. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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