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They usually replied pretty fast to the mail I have send them. And it is christmas time (in Russia christmas is celebrated on january 6th) So I think we should wait till mid january and see how the situation develops. So please let me out too. I am sure that VV knows about the problems and is trying to fix them.

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mr1010.. I understand your frustration and I agree things are not exciting in vv.  honestly I agree with others that sending an email and complaining about everything wrong in vv wont help matters.  im not paying for the site, so I cant really complain much.  I do agree things are boring and not much excitement.

im most likely gonna stop watching soon.  it was fun for awhile but I think its time to move on, maybe I will come back in a few months.  I will still chat here tho.

im sorry, but I don't want to be included in the email.  good luck to u, if u do send it

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Timewarp, I also have run a business. While it is true you don't listen to every single thing customers suggest, they listen to almost none. And customers can vote with their pocketbook. Joint has more impact than individually. And I am not insane person.  Lots of people express the things I do, but few want to take action. The union leader, the community organizer, the socially conscious leaders of our societies, are they insane also? You can snipe if you want, it's what you are good at. Instead, I try to help people.

I am so glad you made this post because it is a perfect example of what you do that can be maddening.

Early in your post you ask:

"I hope you were only using an expression, because otherwise it was extremely rude."

Just a few lines down:

"The union leader, the community organizer, the socially conscious leaders of our societies, are they insane also? You can snipe if you want, it's what you are good at. Instead, I try to help people."

Your speculation that I might have meant the phrase to be insulting has miraculously transformed into I DID mean it that way and it is now not speculation,but a fact.

For you information, what I was driving at was simply that there is a difference between listening to your customers and letting them run your business. You have to be one of the more insecure individuals I have encountered in quite a while.

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Unsy, cassy, tallguy, sat11, jabbath, yadevol, nack, natres, beancounter, miscvoyeur,timewarp, dfCcap, spielo, bookmaster and others on this site regularly, please read the preceding post by Bullit19 about an email idea to complain in a unified front to VV about the issues we all have with their site. I also responded to him about it and said I would communicate with everyone about the idea he has. Any who agree, let us come up with a joint "communique" we can send to VV to insist they address our concerns. I suggest someone who has not complained to them much before (in other words, not me) send the joint email with everyone's names on it, with the threat that we could get many of us to cancel our subscriptions if they fail to address our concerns promptly. They also must respond back to us by email of the steps they are taking to address our concerns. We can all put forward ideas here for the verbiage to be used, come up with a draft and then after everyone is agreed, have someone send out the email with the names of anyone here that wishes to join in it.

I, for one, have felt extremely frustrated and powerless and have on my own kind of flailed at them to no avail. That is because I and others do it on our own. If we do it together, they will have to listen.

I am going to bed now, but I will check back in a few hours to see what people think. Thank you to anyone who has listened to us.

mr1010 you are right

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Here we go again . Because bad camera angle i'm simply put in position when i can not see who is sitting on couch.

Well i m free user. I Suppose that mean i can not complain. It's fine with me but that in reality mean i'm of for today . Have no patience and time any more for that kind of games. :) :)

i know what you mean, we used to be able to see the whole living room, but now they have both cameras set where you have big blind spots.
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Alright, guys, I hear you loud. Just trying to help, a shot in the dark. That's fine, we will handle it differently. Unsy has informed me through a pm that after an email he sent VV about Christy, they responded to him that Christy is undergoing a treatment and they hope she will be back but no guarantees. Others here have indicated that they got some response or no response. Spielo makes a good point that until after Russian New Year on January 7 that nothing will likely happen. Cassy makes a point that perhaps social media can be utilized to put pressure on VV. I am not the best at social media but I will look into that.

I appreciate all of the responses from everyone. At the least, I got everyone thinking and talking about the issues. Sometimes I think that some people put themselves out there to get the ball rolling and get everyone talking. I think I am a person like that. I don't easily sit tight, like to take an active role in the fate of things I am involved with. I hope no one is offended or put off by this attempt. I am just trying my best.

Miscvoyeur makes a good point also that we have to be careful what we ask for. Like the old expression, be careful what you ask for, you might get it! I don't want to cause VV to just get porn stars for the site. That hasn't worked well (although I liked J & G who really had no time for this). I know i am inconsistent at times, maybe because I am not sure what I want. I want good people who interact well, I want spontaneity, and I want good sexy fun, and I want some sex. But I don't want sex at the expense of all the rest. Funny thing is, and miscvoyeur knows I am on the site, when I am in RLC with the all girls' apartment, I am more patient and happy with what they give me. Even though the girls haven't actually petted, I am mostly content with what they do there. So, I will try to see VV through the same lens if I can.

In short, I will take a step back here a bit. Others of my friends here do a good job with contacting VV and they get better results because I contact them too often. I will stay at least through the Russian New Year or a little after to see if changes are made. I actually have about 15-17 days left on this month anyway, so no reason to cancel now.

Thanks for everything, friends.

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I don't have a lot of hope for N & A. He went to the shower room again, may be stalling again. Well, we'll know soon. Unless he takes a shower. She looks ready. Maybe he has been exacting his revenge on her for her rejections.

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