uppsala Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 So, something i Always thought about is why does russians become nazis or neonazi or supporters of Hitler and so on. Isnt this the exact opposite of their own country/countries values? I mean, arent they all communists? I dont know how this works in practice but im thinking that if your not a communist and a russian Citizen your basically a part of the enemy. And shouldnt Putin basically just mass murder these people(dont mean from a western Point of view, cause in west its wrong, in russia no one dares to care)? He is the almighty ruler and anyone Rising up or not supporting him is automatically against him and we all know russia, they normally remove these people from excistance. Anyone knowing more about this or got any info that has truth or substance are welcome to inform me, i find this topic very interesting, its something i Always wondered about.
uppsala Posted July 25, 2016 Author Posted July 25, 2016 And please refrain from rasicsm and other unnecessary types of hate etc, i didnt make this thread for people who want to spread hate or support of illegal organizations or Groups. Or people who just wants to complain cause they got nothing else to do.
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 The Nazi's were National Socialists; the Bosheviks were International Socialists. Both of their systems required an authoritarian government. There is very little difference between the two, and the Russians have had despotic governments for so long that they just shrug their shoulders and try to go about a their lives despite the government. If they do get involved, they have no trouble switching from one despotic allegiance to another. Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
uppsala Posted August 21, 2016 Author Posted August 21, 2016 I see. Hard to wrap my head around the fact that they basically joins the ww2 enemy. In my World it makes no sense.
BBsq69 Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 There is absolutely no doubt that Putin it quite happy to have fascist support and the ideals of communism mean fuck all to him. We allied with the communists against the fascist in WWII, that's how bad fascists are - although perhaps there was some truth that they happened to be bad people who were nearer. How many of the Russians were truly communist anyway. Totalitarian regimes just like religious regimes engage in a process of brainwashing their population - just look at North Korea - or at the very least make it almost impossible for you to have a decent life unless you agree with them. There are many people with extreme views on the left who are racist (in partioular anti-Semitic), anti-women, homophobic - it's just that for the extreme right it becomes the main focus whereas for the extreme left it tends to be under the surface in those secret committee rooms they so love. Believe that they is quite a cohort on the left in the UK who believe that 9/11 was a Jewish plot and that Russia invading the Ukraine was caused by the West ... one of them may actually be leading the Labour Party. I don't believe it is even a nationality thing. In the US how many openly atheist members of congress are there despite the fact there are tens of millions of them? iBut that's another discussion. Extremists are prevalent in all societies, it only goes wrong when they get into power.
Guest Juli' Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 I hope I have correctly understood the essence of the dialogue. In Russia for a long time almost disappeared fascism. Adoration of Hitler long since ended. Of course there are the left and right, but there is no specific fascism. ( At least openly about it nowhere not hear) Moreover there is an article in the Penal Code which provides for imprisonment of up to 8 years. In addition, Putin on the contrary supports and introduces a tolerance. And it is not supported fascism. Years when fascism was in the country ended. And (slightly depart from the theme) I want to add a bit of "Russia's invasion of Ukraine," Russia did not invade. All that is happening there is genocide in its purest form. Russia only provides humanitarian assistance. Moreover, we say in Russia that is America supports the war. Therefore, where the truth is unknown. All that tells us is that they want to impress. War is profitable today Ukraine. Therefore, they do not come to a truce. So do not say that the Russian invaded the Ukraine. As for Putin's power. Certainly he is very strong ruler. But in Russia now great indifference to who will come to power. People stopped going to the polls. The last time it was only 56% of the population. I think it speaks for itself. I think the problem is that in our country elections are falsified. Votes are sold. People little to solve. All understand it, but everyone is silent. In our country, any protest is extremism in a rigid form. Many end up in prison. Therefore, people prefer to be satisfied with what is. And those that decide for them. A few years ago there was even a rally. People did not agree with the fact that Putin has been selected for the second time President. At the rally came the whole of Moscow. Putin even let a tear. Now the Russian saying, "Who else if not Putin" Putin cut short any manifestation of fascism. Even left-wing ceased to act so violently. Since we introduced many laws to punish.
Guest Juli' Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 communism and fascism is the manifestation of what he was, in the past we can say.
Guest Juli' Posted October 22, 2016 Posted October 22, 2016 All that is going on in Russia is total control over the citizens. We close. And soon, I think people do not stay our position. All this reminds me of the story: 1984 by George Orwell. There are no communists and nationalists. There is only the "Big brother- Putin." And everyone should follow it.
Yury Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 I've never been in America. And I could write here a lot of nonsense about America, Americans and their president, based on what I read in newspapers and see on television. But God gave me a mind not to do so. Thank God! 4
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Never confuse the American people and their Constitution with the jackass people who try to run our government. I'd never confuse the Russian People with their leaders. In fact, I think we'd all get along very well if both of our governments were dissolved and we could all have a dinner party together. I'll supply the California wine. 2
albacore Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Yury said: I've never been in America. And I could write here a lot of nonsense about America, Americans and their president, based on what I read in newspapers and see on television. But God gave me a mind not to do so. Thank God! Some of the guys over on the US Presidential election forum would probably love for Mr. Box to read your post! 1
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