Howard

First off, if you feel Max and I are superior to everyone else, you said it - not me. As for what she has banked, nobody knows what she has banked. But my guess is not as much as everyone thinks, or not as much as if she was making $40,000/year (in comparison here in the states, a nurse makes $85K/year, a hair stylist about $50K/year, an executive assistant between $70-90K/year). A mid-level property manager makes between $50 - 70K/year. And of course, I doubt she receives the customary employee benefits. But this gets a little off topic. What she (or anyone) banks is far less important than their mental health. I've made her mental health the focus of my posts. Most everyone else has made "don't try and run her life' as a focal point, which of course masks their true horndog selfishness.

Max isn't tooting his own horn. While I am not comfortable with some of his observations (or expressed characteristics of Leora), he's on point: She's been on cam for 1/3 of her life at this "half-way house for lost souls". RLC isn't meant to be a permanent residence. It's an avenue for those who have very little modesty (or have put their modesty on hold), to earn money with provided shelter in lieu of getting nekkid or being sexual on camera, while they discover what their calling is (or have decided on a direction they want their life to go). RLC keeps her around because she makes money for them. They care much less about her then most of you. All Max and I have done is UNSELFISHLY point out the obvious. There's no "I'm better than though" being expressed. It's disappointment that someone who has shown (potential) to grow as a person, remains in a safe place (with no advancement). Socially and emotionally, she has grown much less the past 10 years than any peers she has known during that time. And as she puts her life out for display as SHE IS PAID TO DO, she is open for criticism. If you care for her as much as many of you say or imply, you'd recognize her limited growth and want her to branch out and experience both the good and challenging things in life that we all do. Nobody is trying to plan or run her life. Just as EVERYONE has offered advice to family, friends, or acquaintances, the same is being done here. Possibly in a more stern manner (which in ways projects frustration of how a pretty, intelligent young lady can't see the forest from the trees). What many of you don't like about these opinions being expressed is they subconsciously challenge the enjoyment you get seeing her (and acting accordingly, like the teen-ager you once were). You want what is best for her? You have no compelling argument saying she is better on cam then to go and experience a better life for herself. Just the opposite - you feel she is better on cam to amuse you (but you mask that either by insulting those who say otherwise, or masking your argument so in reality, you want her to stick around so you can wank the willy). All Max and I have done is UNSELFISHLY point out the obvious. For her own self-respect, self-esteem, and continuing growth as a young woman, she needs to move on.

Once again,...facts are to liberals (or those who distort fantasy from reality), as kryptonite is to Superman.

Well said. That's respectable.

I'm not being callous or cold-hearted. Everyone on the planet should hope everyone lives a happy, peaceful, prosperous and trouble-free life. But that isn't reality. Just as not everyone can have a million dollars in the bank and live in a 3 bedroom home with a white picket fence. I don't casually use the word 'love' like 99% of others do. I love my family, and some childhood friends. I don't love The Doors, people who work for me, Dua Lipa, a fantasy, people I have not spoken to or will speak to, or the Dodgers. Your assumptions how *I* was raised are false. I was fortunate to have two loving and nurturing parents, concentration camp survivors, who raised me and two older sisters in a middle class environment with traditional values. They taught me morals, ethics, and integrity - some or all traits that are missing in much of any society around the world. Of course, just like people who say they are religious, characteristics and beliefs are subject to interpretation. Because my views differ then yours doesn't make me wrong. Because my outlook on what is important in life, what is reality vs fantasy, and what I can control doesn't make me wrong in how I live my life. Because I think Leora has over-stayed her welcome by 8+ years doesn't make me wrong. What it does for most is threaten their enjoyment of her as a fantasy/sex object, and indirectly challenges their sanity. And because I put up with nonsense such as your post, makes me both tolerant and respectful of your opinion.

Please help me understand why her friends are relevant to you. Is it because you feel a connection with Leora?

Agree with much what you say, but Malia isn't relevant. She's no longer w/ RLC. If you have an attachment to her because you have an attachment to Leora, that's different. On a side note (and I'm not addressing this directly to SlipperG), I don't think I will understand peoples' attachment to a fantasy sex object. I understand people who admire an athlete, an accomplished businessman, or a seasoned actor who relishes their work. But a fantasy girl, makes no sense to me.

In American politics, we generally re-visit a president's term in office 20 years after his last day. Doing so provides clarity if his term was successful. As for the media, it is a joke. Indeed finding the truth id very difficult. Everyone has their breaking point. For me, it was the Trump presidency. So many lies regarding the man and his patriotism. Trump ain't a saint. But he never sold out the US (as has been proven in senate hearings) and he is very much a patriot. Lousy husband, brash, obnoxious and pompous. But I don't have to eat with him, speak to him, have a beer with him, or sleep with him. He got shit done. That's what I want in a leader.

Biden is a joke. I'd say he is a disappointment. Those knowledgeable in American politics knew this 47 years ago. But this isn't the place for that discussion.

Not sure about other countries, but in the US (Los Angeles, as an example), we're starting to see shelves on markets empty (like the early stages of Covid). Also, 91 octane gas is at $5.75/gallon (a twenty-six cents increase overnight). Putin is nutso.

The pot calling the kettle black, by Jimbo4. You need to learn from this link - https://youtu.be/ycPaP_aONjE You also need to read Internet For Dummies. You support her apartment every time you tune in. You don't have to be a subscriber.

So...why do you tune in to watch her? Self-gratification? It is behavioral observations I (and Max) make to come to logical conclusions. I don't want to control her life (I'm no liberal). It isn't rocket science to opine and conclude she's wasting her life away (and its hers to waste). It is third-party concern that she leave RLC and make a better life for herself (which she could do, if she had better self-esteem). Hasn't anyone in your life offer you a suggestion to better yourself (or circumstance), and you've taken that advice? Of course you have, you did, and your thankful someone intervened to guide you. You're upset because Max and I are saying she is better off moving on with her life. You would rather see her nekkid and placing various colored dildos inside her so you can shoot your load. I guarantee she can be replaced with another brunette and within a few weeks, everyone would say 'Leora who?'. Case in point: Most everyone admired (but forgotten about) Maya not as much for her beauty, but she demonstrated an admirable can-do attitude. She painted/decorated the main wall, making her apartment more of a home. She was a DIYer who brought a car bumper into her apartment to refurbish. She sewed, making costumes for a local annual event. She showed she not only had ambition, but she had skills and saw a future for herself outside the bubble. You're beef is Leora providing value for the viewer for what her job is. Then why do you tune in? You don't have to be a subscriber by paying a monthly fee to support her. With each visit to her page, your visit is being recorded by a page counter - supporting what she does. Jimbo4: <--- The definition of hypocrisy.

I suppose because you say so, it must be true.

I think (I know) she would be a better person outside the bubble. You want her to remain inside the bubble for your own satisfaction. If that implies I am morally superior then you, so be it. But morals isn't the basis of the conversation. It's the damage she is doing to herself psychologically being on RLC (for 10 years!). People (including you and me) get in a rut, not realizing the time lost, or damage being done, by not moving on. First and foremost, she needs to get out. What happens in her life afterwards can only make it better. RLC is more then a job - it's a lifestyle that I am certain she did not envision for herself (does any girl?). If she would justify it is only to mask in her own disappointment.

Indeed! 99% watch her as a fantasy. I've said for many, many years I study the behavior. If what I say hits home hard, probably because many can relate. I was fortunate. I had two loving parents who raised me. And two sisters who were a pain in my side, but loved me nevertheless. Unfortunately since the 1970s, when children were having children and personal responsibility was replaced by government intervention, the family unit has diminished. And now two generations later, we have people on live cams with little morals, ethics, integrity and modesty. That's the world we're living in. Anyway, I'll continue to judge, continue to be opinioned.

People are entitled to their opinions. I am no holier then though. But as long as one doesn't think with their dick, you can see various unfortunate circumstances in each apartment. You can tell those who will soon move-on (and if not, they are advancing either their careers one way or the other). Masha is lost. All the single girls - the day they leave the apartment, they're homeless. Probably each had rough childhoods. All pretty women who sleep alone at night (or hook up with each other). Same lesbian games Leora & Malia played. Go to VH, most are lost souls. One can only hope they get booted from their apartments and are forced to face the harsh realities of life and get a job. Otto & Lola are prime examples. Anyway, if it pisses many off that I judge, ya'll need to look in the mirror. It's pathetic that there are 20-somethings with little to no ambition. What's more pathetic is they are just a vrry small example of their peers who whose iPhones are more important to them then their modesty (or their future). I suppose one can say VH is their salvation: Where else would they go? For many, I blame their parents (somebody was either the sperm donor or gave birth).

Get off your pulpit. We all judge other people. That I think she can do better then what she has been doing the past several years, that's more a concern that she leads the life she thought she would have at 30, and not be nekkid on camera. I'm more opinionated about her then others because you can see by her behavior, you can see by her appearance, she is capable of much more. If she had several piercings, several tattoos, an abortion scar. If she didn't care about her appearance. If she didn't keep a clean home. If she didn't do the basics that most people are accustomed to, being raised in a loving home, I wouldn't care You can tell those who are lost souls with no direction (most of VH participants). Not that there isn't hope for them, but they're in the late teens/early 20s and experimenting. Leora should have been done experimenting 8 years ago.. She missed the transition road for the next stage of her life and needs to get back on track.

Other then superficially, , if you have a deep care for Leora & Malia, you need to engage a mental health advisor.. She's a fantasy - not reality. You will never meet her, you don't even know her (or her given name). You don't know her last name, you know nothing about her but her job - to tickle your wiener so you get a boner. ...and if there are much bigger things going on in the world, why are you watching her?!

For 99% of you, the only thing you "care about" regarding Leora is she get nekkid and bate so you can wack off. You don't give a shit about her well being (saying otherwise is bullshit - everyone knows it). You don't know her. I don't know her. But if you don't see a life (mostly) wasted the past 10 years...a life whose growth has been compromised in the bubble. If you can't see that she (anyone!) would be better off as a contributing member to society then having you salivate at her tits. I see a life far from having reached her potential (and never will while in the bubble) You see her as a sex object (many pretty woman part of society are - they use their beauty to their advantage). She could be both, but not while on cam. Well,...we just have to agree to disagree.

I'm confused....her work ethic is being nekkid and bating (or screwing) on camera. She bates 4-5x/week. Already too often as she needs lube a couple times a week to fulfil her obligation.

Leora bated for obligation. She wanted to get it out of the way (how romantic & thoughtful of her) so she was free of obligations the rest of the evening.

FWIW, as I stated earlier, Leora's mother gene was much stronger 9...10 years ago. It probably has significantly suffered as after all these years, it seems she doesn't plan her future beyond a few days.

I gotta give another POV Max. She got the dog about 6 months AFTER she and Paul came to RLC. Getting a pet is often what young couples do before having children (practice w/ a dog). Several of my long time high-school and collegiate friends, once they married (none of them 'shacked' up), got a dog about 4-6 months later, and then were expecting their first child a few months thereafter (and they all still have a pet(s) in their households). With that said, she has damaged herself psychologically by staying in the bubble. I think she does not think of a way out (no long term plans). She's in a safe space. She's accustomed to no modesty and in return, gets a paycheck and roof over her head. On the flip side, let's recognize that after 10 years, Leora (and 98% of other RLC/VHTV participants), have not hung one picture on the wall. It doesn't have to be family pics. A water-painting of a sunset, a litho of a mountain scenery. NONE OF THEM think of their apartments as home (that, IMO, is very telling of their upbringing and current psychological state). The exception is....Nina & Kira (and I read somewhere they purchased the home they live in, if true).

Bingo! Stupid, stupid choice, but hers to make.

Stop being a woke knucklehead. Of course I'm generalizing. But the odds are very much in favor what I said is true. She doesn't come from an impoverish upbringing. Her upbringing might be different then most conventional means, but nothing that couldn't be overcome. She's doesn't have 10 piercings scattered through her body, not one tattoo, her body is clean (i.e. no scars), she eats healthier then most, she doesn't smoke, drinks very little alcohol. This girl should be a dreamboat for most males who are civilized. Army has nothing to do with her or my comments. This girl is smoking hot, with the exception of one BIG, major choice she makes for herself on a weekly or monthly basis.