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Didn’t realise there were 22...I only watch one..🙀😹

Irrespective of what we may think, these two girls are individuals and are not joined at the hip like Siamese twins...Leora owes Malia nothing and vice versa, they both need their own space to do as they wish without any guilt attached. Geographically they are identical, but physically, psychologically and intellectually they are possibly a world apart.🤔

Why eat hamburgers when there is prime fillet steak in the fridge..😹

Much better on 9

And likewise Harley, I have mostly given you the benefit over the years, haven't always agreed with what you have said but nevertheless it was your right to express it....I also had the right to express as I still do, and I believe that myself and some others went too far and too personal with our attacks on Leora, on sometimes the flimsiest or non existing evidence ...We set ourselves up as judge, jury and executioners ...and it became bitter and distorted beyond belief a few days ago. That's my view mate...and you I know will have yours.

And a great attitude to life !

Don't suppose it could be that some of us stepped back and looked at ourselves and realised what horrible bastards we had become with some of our verbal attacks on Leora and are possibly ashamed. Or! If there is not a great deal happening, there is no need to comment. Just a thought! 😹

If as you say you have been watching Leora on and off for four years, there was I presume something about her you liked, otherwise you wouldn't have returned. If you were disrespected by another member of the forum it could only have been because of a remark you made that he/she disagreed with, things can get a little heated on here sometimes but the secret is to not take it too personal...Everyone has an opinion and it wouldn't do for everyone to agree on everything would it. If you show respect you will generally receive it back ( no guarantee though 😹 ) But if you make a remark that is interpreted as disrespectful, sarcastic, personal or aggressive, then you would be inviting a similar reponse. From your profile I notice that you joined CC in February 2018.....Hardly constitutes a Newbie does it? and from 138 posts you have 118 likes....Not a sign of disrepect in figures like that mate.😸

😹😹😹 You must tell us all about your experience sometime!!.......It looks to me consistent with a person who has tripped over and grazed themself on the pavement....But then what do I know? I have never been sodomized on the carpet. and strangely enough niether has Leora I don't believe 😾

Excuse me Pepe, I know this is yours.....Slipper, he was not having a go at you mate, he was refering to me in a general way......I think ! 😹🙀

Perhaps you are right, perhaps it takes time for us all to learn certain things, irrespective of where we come from..

I was in no way criticising you Slipper, I was merely picking up on what I thought could possibly be the reason it stopped...Perhaps I should not have attached my post to yours but made a seperate one...My apologies if you though I was attributing any blame on yourself..

Naturally people were dissapointed, but perhaps it was a question of what came first? Did the two girls stop before the criticism of the situation, or did the criticism accelerate the process of stopping it? I personally think the latter. We are talking about a matter of days, in the whole scheme of things its not much time at all to determine whether their actions are permanent, or whether it was a counter protest from them saying to us " Shut the fuck up, we are making the best of the situation we find ourselves in, If you don't like it we won't give you it " The past week or so has been flled with claims and counter claims, argument's and counter argument's, opinions and insults both to other members on the forum or more importantly directed mostly at Leora...Who on standing back and trying to make sense of it all, has been the victim of much unwarranted abuse from some of us who should know better. I include myself among those guilty of " overstepping " the mark and believe it was tantamount to bullying... She is a human being just like us all, with genuine feelings, not a slab of meat... Perhaps we should be more aware of that in the future before we are so venomous with our remarks. Because although it wouldn't bother a minority, Should our constant criticism drive her out of RLC, the great majority of people would be devastated.....In eleven days time it will be the anniversary of her being shut down in Russia, remember how you all felt then, and then remember how you felt when she reappeared in this apartment two months later...Although she could have planned it better.....She was on her period..lol 🙀😹😹🙃 Be nice people !! 🙃

There are several “IF’s” to take into consideration...1: If she has indeed met a new friend and it is a male, it doesn’t necessarily follow that he is her new “ boyfriend “...Merely a friend who happens to be a male.Who knows, he may in time become her “boyfriend “ but conversely it might not develop into any more than it is..How many people on here took their new friends home to meet the family in the first couple of weeks ? 2: If she has met a guy and it develops, and she feels she can trust him, and wants to invite him back to her apartment, she is no doubt morally and possibly legally duty bound to inform him that every move he makes is being filmed and watched in realtime by thousands of voyeurs..Therefor the timing and confidence in the relationship has to be right....The prospect of being on show to thousands may Very well terrify a great many men... As for the pseudo lesbian sex, Because of the situation of Leora now having a house guest, her normal freedom of expression has been seriously affected inasmuch as she only has the bedroom to express herself in..If she sat in the living room knitting or talking we would all complain there was no action..If she went out too often we would all complain that she was never at home....So they creat a scenario perhaps of giving us something more interesting to watch.....If we think that it is going to be full blown lesbian sexual relationships then that is in our mind, and it’s our mind that demands more and more from her...She never implied that it would be.....She can’t control our thinking.... So we don’t get what we demand and say we are being cheated, She goes out, we are being cheated, She stays indoors and does nothing, we are being cheated....and because we feel aggrieved about it we start getting into personal remarks about her, and trying to verbally bully her.....We haven’t been fair with her. If we enjoy watching what she has given us for many years, give her the chance to give it to us, she has never let us down, and I don’t believe she will now...

But some off the material posted has become very personal....That's the problem !

I try to say it as I see it. I'm by any standard not always right, but if I am wrong I have no problem admitting it.....My personal treatment of Leora has not been as kind as it could have been.

And in private lives people go out socialising ....That's what she is doing.

I am perfectly fine with what transpired on Saturday, naturally I was disappointed at not seeing Leora, but it wasn't the end of the world to me. I watched parts of it on Replay, mainly because Malia really doesn't do it for me, although that does not make her a bad person, just personal choice. You, me, uncle Tom Cobly, nobody apart from Leora and Malia know what the arrangements regarding that guy was....but people have put thier own spin on it to suit thier own conspiracies' .... As for Leora going out....There is nothing in her contract I wouldn't imagine that states that she has to be in the house 24/7 365 days of the year, to perform our wishes as we want.. She is entitled to some freedom, and to meet people...And what if she has met a guy? She can have a friend who is male, without him being her boyfriend and certainly doesn't imply they are shagging....But even if they were, what is it to do with us......NOTHING!! She's not a child, and is entitled to her space and her life outside of the apartment.....Thats my opinion.

What a sad bunch a perverts we have all become. Step back and look at ourselves...We are supposed to be grown men who in some cases hold or have held responsible position's in society. We, many of us at least have watched this girl blossom from a shy pretty youngster into a beautiful woman, who has by and large given the majority of us a huge amount of pleasure over the seven years we have known her...and during that time she has rode the blows both small and large that have been rained at her by various factions, including me sometimes on this forum, and life in general, and survived to become a strong independent person in her own right. As happens in many situations in life, we build people up only to slam them down when it suit's...I personally have had times when I have been dissatisfied with the way I perceived Leora was heading and made it known, not deliberately to hurt her as an individual personally, but to express what I thought was a valid point of view....Ignorant to the fact that as much as people like Leora shake the criticism off and say it doesn't bother them, it does eventually wear them down. I think that there are a combination of events that have occured in her life recently that have come together like a " Perfect Storm " filling her with anxiety, fear, bewilderment, happiness and great sadness...And we, the people who are supposed to appreciate her have sat back and watched her flounder , whilst making up stories and putting our own interpretations to facts that NONE of us apart from Leora are fully aware of. To suit ourselves we have turned her from victim to villain by the touch of a PC keyboard....The maxim of " live and let live " has been discarded because we though we owned her....We don't !! Give her a break guys, back off and give her breathing space...None of us know what she is going through, all we have done is form an opinion from little scraps of nebulous information and turned it on her....Without any consideration for her feelings..........It's beginning to take on the form of bullying....Not nice, clever or desirable ..

You dastardly code cracker !! Be sure you will get your comeuppance in the next episode ....

Nicely put Scouse !!😸

And we're not ???? 😹

Was all this torture and gratuitous violence inflicted on her before they started water boarding her or after? A night out in the nightclubs of Kabul can be quite challenging for a girl nowadays, perhaps next time she should force Malia to take her place and take one for the team....After all it's what Leora does so it seems by reading some post's on here....And after all, what are friends for unless you can use and abuse them.🙀😹

Sorry to disagree with you Joe...But to quote an old English colloquialism “ What a load of old bollocks “ RLC would not get involved because to their minds she has done no wrong.. Perhaps she’s not a scolded child, perhaps she has feelings like all of us and is tired of OUR...and I say OUR constant abuse...Personally, I can’t blame her. Perhaps she has scrutinised us like we do her, and she doesn’t like what she see’s, perhaps she thinks we are not worth the effort, just as we think she might not be worth the money.....And sometimes I have to ask myself the same question..

I am blaming no-one . If you read my post correctly you would see that I stated it was an hypothesis .