And some guys will presume to know what they're talking about and impose their own sense of bullshit morality when it isn't needed or warrented without any sort of intellectual reasoning behind it.
And FYI, I've been a member of CC for many MANY years and have been a voyeur for well over a decade... WAAAAYYYY before VH or VV even existed. So don't pretend to think that you know what you're talking about with me.