MrBox

This is not your decision. The only decision you can make is whether you still paying for it or not. Both girls live there and have endured a lot, especially the last few days. I think both have earned mutch more respect. You can be angry about the vv management. It's even easy to understand for me. They still have the text on the front page that at least in between the lines implies that there will also sex to be seen. But I do not think that the girls has committed for sex. Probably they move exactly in the framework that has been agreed with the management. That the management want to force more form the girls is, due to the last visitors, very obvious. And it also obvious that they can not find girls, or maybe not even try to find girls, there are willing to have sex in front of the cameras. But that's is a management thing. For me it is not important that everything is open. But, if the majority of viewers think like you, the page will close soon. And for me, that would be ok, because of the failed management. Due to the girls, I hope for a better future. But maybe the real better future is located outside the villa. I do not know. And both girls appear more than able to make that decision independently. They had fun last night. That was not acting. So relax and wait. They're back on track. For me, that was the last post in this thread.

Now, I do not even understand this thread and i am realy ashamed to be a part of it. Sure this page is not in his best shape now. But, the girls do good and the current visitor fits and is not an actor or a freak. Give them some time and maybe one or two additional residents. It is going in the right direction now. Or do you want to have this clown back? The first positiv development during the last weeks and here the little children are crying. It is one thing to make fun of the role of an actor. But this is about real people. Please show some respect. Without them, there is nothing to see. I count more than 200 people watching the bedroom. So, do you realize that you represent at maximum 1% of the current members.

I tried to find something that i do not like at this guy. Nothing so far! He seams to be a nice guy. Good cast. I've honestly hot expected that. :)

I really have to work on the gray values. Isn't it? ;) He makes a decent impression to me. But I also thought this of the Grabber first. :) So far, I have not seen much of him. Did I miss something? They are sleeping now, so i have to wait. Hmm. … Now, that I have just started to have fun dissing all this strange vistitors. … If this is the normal person for which I've been waiting so long, … I'm really screwed. ;) Considering all the failures that they had in the past, I really thought the would invite another female guest. The weekend can I still watch as a payed customer. Than … What do you think? Nice thoughts... for me the whole villa is becoming more and more a grey zone. With the guys now for our two girls, it´s the same story like the girls in a row for Mark. On the end nothing worked, because he didn´t really want (he wanted Lilu). Same is now with the girls. For whatever reason, they do not want or need any boy. Milka seems to be sexless, for Lilu it is enough one time per year (or outside?). So, on the end, this guy will be a regular member in the row, looks like normal, but far away from a charming boy who could create interest on the girl(s) side. Lilu seems to be out of the game anyhow. I really don´t know how to spend the already paid next 3 weeks. The former advantages of the Villa compared to RLC also seem to be gone, namely the reaction on customer demands. cam 5 is not corrected, the terrible bird view in the bath and on cam 6 had been increased, there will be no 2nd bath cam, more and more guests for theatre, Lilu developping outside life more and more, absolutely sexless villa since Sabina has left about 2 months ago. So what? I do not see it quite as dramatic. But I have not seen the history of the appartment. Summarized, your interpretation sounds plausible to me, even if we do not have the equal weight on the focal points. It is good that the girls have a life outside of the villa. Even though I understand it, it is too bad that this life is so strictly separated from the appartment. I like the girls and I'm grateful for all the effort thay has shown, especially when i consider the poor conditions they were provided with by the managment. Now, due to the current visitor, who is not aimlessly running around and yelling into the cameras like the last one, there is the possibility that this place will be fun again. But it will certainly take time, which was until now unfortunately wasted by the management so generously. I'm not going to visit the page without the additional cameras. But after everything that has happened so far, I have no intension to spend more of my money there, without any real progress to be seen. I can not remember who was the guest at the time when you decided to extend your payment. But the last visitor made my decision much easier. I hope you're not angry with me, because I would be glad if you can further give me your impressions. Should the situation in the villa improve convincingly, I would not like to miss it. ;) It looks like, I've got still not given up all hope. In any case, I wish the girls all the best. In particular, outside the villa.

I really have to work on the gray values. Isn't it? ;) He makes a decent impression to me. But I also thought this of the Grabber first. :) So far, I have not seen much of him. Did I miss something? They are sleeping now, so i have to wait. Hmm. … Now, that I have just started to have fun dissing all this strange vistitors. … If this is the normal person for which I've been waiting so long, … I'm really screwed. ;) Considering all the failures that they had in the past, I really thought the would invite another female guest. The weekend can I still watch as a payed customer. Than … What do you think?

Because I see the possibility in this page to be something. I also like the girls and how they get along well with each other. The girls get along fine amongst themselves but they don't interact to well with the male company they bring in. They should just go the Lesbian route they'd have more fun. Who was in the villa, so far? Magic-Mike: This was a show, i think also the girls had fun this night. The show is over. Good. The sofa seater and his companion: As most of the others not in the same league as the girls. The Grabber: You could not take him seriously. No respect for the girls. Clear that such a guy get the red card. The Nerds: As most of the others not in the same league. The guy with movement disorder: For him, I have no words. The current vistor: Can not be taken seriously. Is really very unpleasant. Just a very bad cast from vv management. Only one man was normal so far and was obviously a guest from Milka.

Because I see the possibility in this page to be something. I also like the girls and how they get along well with each other.

It's completely normal to take some time to relax. And she really deserves it. It is truly remarkably how she tolerate all these nonsense, but still remain sympathetic. Currently, I can watch the stream at max. for 2-3 minutes. Than i need to close it, because I can not stand the guy. Particularly disappointing is the fact, that he really believes there's someone among the viewers how is interresstet in what he thinks. I can not endure when he speaks to the camera. It does not look as if the two guests are moving out today. Maybe we'll have better luck tomorrow.

If that was really Lilus boyfriend, this was a very courageous step. Respect. That was certainly not a simple conversation. But, I do not think he will stop by in the villa. Especially not with all these freaks (Oh, I wanted to write visitors ;) ). I rather suspect that she is leaving the villa now, too. Would somehow fit to the villa, always when you think it can not get worse, you have to recognize later that it was still possible. :( And when Lilu is laeving the villa it looks bad. One remaining cute girl versus a not so cute woman (how I do not like) and a guy which is easy falling to hate him. No idea who is doing the casting, but obviously something went wrong. Well, maybe the remaining visitors are leaving today too. Could be that there flight departs later. ;) As already written, I do not understand what happens in the villa. Is it really not posible to find matching people for the girls? They need to ask themselves a simple question: „Can I imagine Lilo and Milka would meet the candidates also outside the villa to have fun?“ For this place they also needs to be attractive and they should have no fear of nudity. At least for RLC that task seems to be possible. Hope Dies Last. :-\

All had a great time. A very successful evening, fun to watch. Kristy has a very positive impact on the living together of the inhabitants. I do not think there is more than a good friendship between kamilla and kristy. But I like how open they are to each other. ;) I am particularly pleased for Nora, as she had a hard time lately. I do not understand, why so many people are so angry about her or kiko. Sure, it would be better to give both a private apartment. But especially on evenings such as this, it's nice to have her. I still have not forgotten her expression as she had seen kamilla in the stripper outfit (provided by kristy). Just incredible.

It looks like something important. Now, I am ashamed that I have taken this call as an example. What would you do in her situation? If there is something serious, the reaction is easy to unterstand. There is nothing to be angry with Lilu.

No, I did not mean they must leave. There were a lot of visitors today. I think there are enough visitors, to keep the page up and running.The concept can also work. It corresponds just not to what I suspected.

I give up. I think my idea of the page does not match where the journey is going. The new guests are two really nice entertainers, but there are still just entertainers. Do not get me wrong, this is by far the best visit in the last weeks. The most interesting thing in the evening was a brief phone call. There was something real. Makes you wonder who was there on the phone. But, It does not look as if they are willing to let the reality in the villa. They want this show, but I will not pay for it. A few days are left on my account, then I'm probably gone.

Now I've realized that I do not understand this page. It is difficult to see the concept. Is there something real, or is it all just a facade. Are the girls economically forced to participate or are they well-paid performers? Do they just have a good time or do they want to leave the villa as soon as possible? Sometimes it seems to me as if the page is working as desired. It's enough to create situations where something might happen what the potential customer wants to see. The 'action' must then be moved to the restricted areas to create new paying customers. Would be a shame to miss something so exciting, right? That there is nothing happened does not really matter, at least for the VV managment and the girls. I would be glad if someone could explain to me what is realy going on there. By the way, if someone is interested: I will extend my RLC subscription, because they have somehow acted consequently (with respect to kick out of Jarek). For VV it is not nearly enough for an extension. Many questions, not so easy to answer, because we all here have no knowledge about the backgrounds of the site, we can just assume or make conclusions of what we are watching. On the beginning there were 2 couples, similar to RLC, but living in one flat. But the engine was Roma with his charming behaviour and entertainment capabilities. With his leaving beginning of July the site is trying to find a new style, maybe other than RLC. Obviously they are not able or not willing to copy RLC with the couple concept and what we are watching is the result. Some scripted entertainment what is for me simple theater. The girls will remain here for sure volontarily, as long as they have the living free of charge and getting some money. The flat is much above Russian standard, the average salaries in Russia are not high and living expenses are increasing. Work is not really hard, just be nude during a daily shower. No sex games, no close-ups. If the site will continue like this it will be completely dead respectively bankrupt soon. In my opinion, they could survive with a "normal" couple concept, but offering features what RLC doesn´t have: - communication with subscribers - cam on balkony - Archive system for subscribers - maybe own forum - improved cam angles and positions allowing close-ups (bird view is surveillance technique) Hope, I could help you a little bit out of your box by putting some grey between the black & white ;) I think all the concepts mentioned in the twitter vote can work. They just needs to finally stop to script everything. The guy how grope the girls right from the start, is not real. He was scripted. The combination of reality with this scripting does not work, because you can see that there is something wrong. The girls needs the space to have fun without pressure. They have two really good-looking and likable girls. I do not understand why there try to enforce as much as they did in the past. They only need to add two or three matching people and give them some time. I would prefer a girl only apartment (voted on twitter; no idea why they do not try this). There will be little to no sex, but that's fine for me. In this issue just the right cast can help. Maybe a couple is needed to. ;) Even the grabber from yesterday might work. They should have send him without the order to force himself so intense to the girls. They should consider the improvements in the quality of the cameras (higher resolution, better position, better sound …) and encourage the girls to invite real people from time to time. I think that will work.

The second duo was later honoured by watching commonly in the girls´bed a movie from laptop. But that was it . 10 hours later a friendly morning call for Milka by Lilu: Oh deutsch. :) Der Filmabend passt auch ins Bild. Sind ja auch keine öffentlichen Kameras dort. ;) „Was haben die den vor in dem Schafzimmer. Da könnte doch ... Da muss ich wohl doch mal die 30$ ausgeben …. Oh .. Nix passiert :( ... Schade drum. Warum hast Du deinen Account verlängert? Glaubst Du da geht noch was?

I like to think in boxes. There are the good and a bad people. There are competent and incompetent people. I know the world is not so simple, but it is easier to pretend so. That's works until the behavior of the boxed people simply no longer fits in the box that I have defined for them. Lilu's box no longer fits. Now I've realized that I do not understand this page. It is difficult to see the concept. Is there something real, or is it all just a facade. Are the girls economically forced to participate or are they well-paid performers? Do they just have a good time or do they want to leave the villa as soon as possible? Sometimes it seems to me as if the page is working as desired. It's enough to create situations where something might happen what the potential customer wants to see. The 'action' must then be moved to the restricted areas to create new paying customers. Would be a shame to miss something so exciting, right? That there is nothing happened does not really matter, at least for the VV managment and the girls. I would be glad if someone could explain to me what is realy going on there. By the way, if someone is interested: I will extend my RLC subscription, because they have somehow acted consequently (with respect to kick out of Jarek). For VV it is not nearly enough for an extension.

Four guys dismissed in one night. ;) The first duo because they pushed to mutch. The remaining due because there was not considered to be equivalent. Almost pitifully as the guys turn out the light try make party. The girl had simply ignored them. ;) The important thing was the short trip to the non public room, to get new paying customers. Sad.

I, do not think that this is fun any more. Perhaps after 10 rejections he simply needs to stop to force himself to the girls so intense. I find it difficult to assess the situation. It looks somehow as the girls need to participate, but would prefer to finish the thing. Stange.

This is really a intense guy. I'm sometimes not sure if the girls are still have fun. But then there are lauging again. Unexpected. Let see, how that develops. Hopefully he knows and accepts the limits.

Based on what I've seen so far, the new residents give me a normal impression. And that's a good thing. Obviously, he has respect for the two girls and I think he would be well received in any typical shared flat. That could be a reason that there is finally talking again. He is also presentable among friends. And that could be the most important point to bring back some life and maybe also a 'real' party to this apartment. For the last guys, who had stayed in the apartment, this was impossible. The girl residents are not interested in one night stands. I think we all can agree in this point, now. Only those who are totally deluded has learned nothing from the last few days. That means to me, that it is useless to add more guys. Sex in this apartment might be possible, if a new couple or a real party girl is added. I would prefer the party girl, ideally connected to a corresponding circle of acquaintances in the city. But I do not think that we have so much luck. I suspect, however, that the page will be closed in a few weeks. I have overcome my disappointment about the wasted money, but I still do not have any confidence to the VV management. A few days are left in my current payment. Currently, I would not extend it. But at least now I see a first change in the right direction.

On the bottom of the main page he/she also used the term "birdie" for the resident of the villa. I think he/she means the canary (The camera quality is not good enough for me to be sure here). As long as the two douchebags are not mentioned as full member, I still have hope. Let it be just a bad dream. ;) You maybe right, the cage bird (budgie, lovebird) is the real birdie.... That relieves.... Where is the party this evening that puts the official Twitter? Two queers on the couch watching a movie and the only tia in the bed with your mobile phone or tablet? Other cheaters shit more! They had the game night yesterday. That should be enough for now. With such guys the hole act locks like a strip club visit. To keep two lecherous guys at distance is hard work. I really hope that the two must leave the house quickly. If the twitter guy defines what happens in the villa, the whole concept is broken. He should bring the right people together. Thats it. Milka wouldn´t have such hard work, if she would not like to avoid sex at all. More than 4 weeks without any sex and no reaction for the 2 guys. This makes me thought-provoking. In my eyes she is an actrice according to the script she is getting. I am curious how Lilu will react tomorrow. If she behaves to the guys similar like Milka then we are at the same point like weeks ago. Let´s hope and see.... With these guys? This will certainly not happen. Did you see the man she had recently for one hour in the villa. Between him and these guys there is a huge difference. I think that is easy to recognize. And the nice guy made even also only a average impression to me. So please, do not blame the girls for the bad male cast in this flat. You can not force the girls into sex. The cast needs to change. That is clear. But these nice looking and sympathetic girls are the last thing on the plus side of this page. If you simply want to see sex, I have a tip for you. But please keep it as a secret. ;) 1. write 'www.google.com' into the line above this page 2. hit enter 3. write 'porn' into the field on the new site 4. enter hit 5. Select one of the links Please take down your black and white spectables and read the official description of this site. Sex and porn are different. If you are expecting here a family soap, then you are wrong. I always do enjoy the newbies with all their knowledge gathered within some days. OK sorry. :) VV I have discovered recently. Very bad timing. However, RLC I followed for a couple of months. Even though I do not understand why it should be necessary to have any long time experience to be able to form a meaningful opinion. This is not rocket science here. ;) But there is a sad truth, the villa has neither sex nor pornography at the moment. It makes no sense to argue about this site. Now, the subscription is terminated for both sites. RLC, because there are unable to kick out violent people (i mean yarik). But that's another topic. VV, because this page is dead. Not even a small part of life of the people takes place in the villa. That's all just a facade without content. Too Bad. You can not imagine how much it bothers me to have spent money to VV. The only reason to join this forum is therefore passed. I wish you all good. Bye

On the bottom of the main page he/she also used the term "birdie" for the resident of the villa. I think he/she means the canary (The camera quality is not good enough for me to be sure here). As long as the two douchebags are not mentioned as full member, I still have hope. Let it be just a bad dream. ;) You maybe right, the cage bird (budgie, lovebird) is the real birdie.... That relieves.... Where is the party this evening that puts the official Twitter? Two queers on the couch watching a movie and the only tia in the bed with your mobile phone or tablet? Other cheaters shit more! They had the game night yesterday. That should be enough for now. With such guys the hole act locks like a strip club visit. To keep two lecherous guys at distance is hard work. I really hope that the two must leave the house quickly. If the twitter guy defines what happens in the villa, the whole concept is broken. He should bring the right people together. Thats it. Milka wouldn´t have such hard work, if she would not like to avoid sex at all. More than 4 weeks without any sex and no reaction for the 2 guys. This makes me thought-provoking. In my eyes she is an actrice according to the script she is getting. I am curious how Lilu will react tomorrow. If she behaves to the guys similar like Milka then we are at the same point like weeks ago. Let´s hope and see.... With these guys? This will certainly not happen. Did you see the man she had recently for one hour in the villa. Between him and these guys there is a huge difference. I think that is easy to recognize. And the nice guy made even also only a average impression to me. So please, do not blame the girls for the bad male cast in this flat. You can not force the girls into sex. The cast needs to change. That is clear. But these nice looking and sympathetic girls are the last thing on the plus side of this page. If you simply want to see sex, I have a tip for you. But please keep it as a secret. ;) 1. write 'www.google.com' into the line above this page 2. hit enter 3. write 'porn' into the field on the new site 4. enter hit 5. Select one of the links

On the bottom of the main page he/she also used the term "birdie" for the resident of the villa. I think he/she means the canary (The camera quality is not good enough for me to be sure here). As long as the two douchebags are not mentioned as full member, I still have hope. Let it be just a bad dream. ;) You maybe right, the cage bird (budgie, lovebird) is the real birdie.... That relieves.... Where is the party this evening that puts the official Twitter? Two queers on the couch watching a movie and the only tia in the bed with your mobile phone or tablet? Other cheaters shit more! They had the game night yesterday. That should be enough for now. With such guys the hole act locks like a strip club visit. To keep two lecherous guys at distance is hard work. I really hope that the two must leave the house quickly. If the twitter guy defines what happens in the villa, the whole concept is broken. He should bring the right people together. Thats it.

On the bottom of the main page he/she also used the term "birdie" for the resident of the villa. I think he/she means the canary (The camera quality is not good enough for me to be sure here). As long as the two douchebags are not mentioned as full member, I still have hope. Let it be just a bad dream. ;)

I really and truthfully believe Nora wants her very badly! I think the problem is Kiko, I think Kiko is telling her that if you want her I want to be involved. I hope that is not the case but you never no with these people!! I hope for you, there is a way back to reality. Look at the history of this apartment. You can also try to be realistic. There was nothing. There is nothing. There will be nothing. Maybe a wish from you side, but certainly not a thought or a move of the residents.