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Yeah and an awful lot of actresses pose nude for Playboy (not anymore) or other magazines once they are in their 20s and it only enhances their careers. Probably better to first make it before posing.

Is that Anna making Phil come after they fucked? If it is, good for Phil. He was so patient with her and she finally fucked him in the open. Maybe they will do this on nights Anna can't have Ivo. I just hope this isn't a one-off.

They are clearly related, probably brother sister. Think about it, would Zoya feel comfortable letting Lev alone with her sister night after night? They cuddle on the sofa right next to Zoya and it doesn't bother her. Plus, Zoya and the guest seem like basic strangers, Lev is much closer to the guest than Zoya is. I know it seems at time almost incestuous, but nothing ever happens, just some good natured teasing. Maybe they could be cousins. Also the guest partially changes in front of Lev, do you think it would happen if she was Zoya's sister? And sometimes Lev and the guest come back to the apartment together (maybe went to parents or other family).

Lera was masturbating? First action we've had in this apartment. Honestly, they are ripping off RLC. Lera and Alex must be just friends, they do nothing with each other.

Anna is obviously game for anything. Petra told her to take care of the guys in Voronezh, she obviously chose Phil, who was glad to oblige, don't think she'll ever do the new guy who is creepy around girls. Anna took one for the team. I think she likes Phil, but isn't as physically attracted to him as to Ivo. But, she had fucked Phil before so it was easy. Did she make Phil cum or just stop in the middle? They need a new girl in Voronezh to replace Dizi, who was a good person. But not sure if they should keep new guy, although he seemed to sign the Contract last night. Don't know anymore what to think of this site. If they could convince Akira's gf to join the project, get a new girl and let Anna do Phil more often (obviously she'll do Ivo also), it might be passable. Keep Ivo away from Anna as much as possible, Petra!

WTF! Anna fucked Phil for a while. No emotion though. It felt almost like an extended back massage between them. Her true affection is with Ivo, but with Petra back she can't fuck Ivo now. At least Phil is finally getting some. Like friends with benefits.

It seems like they have tremendous turnover. That's not good. People like to associate with some favorites. They need a voyeur site somewhere in between RLC and VV. One without many stale non-sexed apartments, but without extreme turnover and professional sex people. If RLC were to just better screen its new people and ask participants to not hide their bodies and engage in some sex from time to time, that would be ideal. I miss the all-girl apartment. And we need more apartments like Nelly and Bogdan and Masha and Sasha. I will say that VV has tapped into the desire among RLC subscribers to see more action, more fun. But VV goes too far and veers into the staged and the manipulative. Its almost like a sexed big brother show where people manipulate their activities to ingratiate themselves with VV administration. Ivo, Akira and Petra are prime examples. Now, Anna/Sonia is becoming another manipulator. If you act wanton and sexy and have sex in VV, you can stay alive in the game and thrive. Phil only stays alive because he agrees to things and follows the script. Anna has risen to the top, plays the game well. But, they will get new girls and then Anna will have to turn it up another notch. This game playing is what really sickens me. I could deal with the different relationships, but there are almost alliances and schemes instead. And real people are the losers (Dizi, Tanya, the other people before, maybe one day Phil also). Even Petra is not immune. She is older and as she loses sway over Ivo, so goes her survival in the game. Anna may literally take over her position in Tver. I think I am getting out at the end of my month, go back to RLC or off voyeur all together. I may stay on rlc just long enough to see if new all-girls apartment will reappear. If not, I may lose interest there as well.

I never saw them, joined afterwards. Where were they, in Voronezh?

Man, she has left now? That sucks! By the way, what was the worst day on VV for you?

Upndown, I agree with what you say. Tver is a sex apartment that comes over to Voronezh and screws it up. I believe that Phil, Dizi and new guy are mostly amateurs. Ivo and Akira would come over and fuck the girls and mess them up. Dizi clearly couldn't take it any more, but to her credit she rejected Ivo in the end. Tanya was totally fucked up by Akira. Petra is the ringleader of the Tver pros. Now, Anna/Sonia is getting the Ivo treatment. I will say one thing though about Anna that is different. She is somewhat controlling her sexual experimentation, she might be working on Ivo a little bit. He seems enamored of her. She is a temptress who gyrates naked in Voronezh. She may have made herself into a bit of a pro and thus fits into Tver. That's why I said a while ago that she wants to be a free agent and while "recruited" by Phil who liked her, she quickly found the relationship she wanted in Ivo and switched. All the while she became the sexiest girl on VV, showing off her assets and making her invaluable to VV. So, she may be manipulating the situation rather than the reverse. However, and this a big but, if you play with fire you may get burned. Ivo is the ultimate manipulator. As soon as a new girl joins them in VV, Anna may have her work cut out for her to keep his attention. Or, maybe if she keeps being invaluable to VV, she may not care herself if another cute guy comes along. I don't really trust her. Can Anna manage to boot Petra to the curb for instance? For this site to work long-term, they need an amateur group in Voronezh not corrupted by Tver.

I have 6 days left in the month I paid for. Then, I will probably be out of here. And I don't have a problem with girls being assertive and using guys for sex. Not meaning to be chauvanistic. But I was brought up a certain way and I think guys like Ivo or Akira will get the girls to do whatever they want, especially once the girls get hung on them. That is what happened with Tanya and Dizi for a while until she stopped it. Time will tell, but I think Anna is hung up on Ivo and based on his past and personality it won't end well. Unless Anna is strong like Dizi was and pulls away. She has a ready out if she wants it, Phil's bed. But I think she is getting drawn in to Ivo and Tver.

Yes, but she is the one sharing her relationship with Ivo in front of Akira and others. If she just wants to do it in front of a camera, why not do crazy sexual stuff to really get us off, like blow jobs, anal, facials, etc.? No, she wants to have the relationship with Ivo, but was kind of forced to do it in front of Akira (I don't mean by force, she was "persuaded"). That is what Ivo wanted and she goes along with anything he wants so she can keep him. She could do it with Ivo but not in front of Akira, but she does it anyway. This is what happened to Tanya with Akira. After a while, Akira got his girl friend and Tanya went crazy and totally debased herself. Tanya didn't do it for the cameras when they did bondage to her. She did it because she would do anything for Akira to keep her. How long before that happens to Anna? Unless Petra comes back and puts a stop to it.

I noticed that. Wow, will Anna become the new Tanya for Ivo? She is totally debasing herself. How sad! I was at least hoping she would just occasionally have sex with Ivo but not get dependent on him. But Ivo is an absolute ahole!

Anna has become the new Petra. Having sex in front of Akira with Ivo. What's next, sex or blowjobs with both of them? New guy has gotten troublesome with Dizi. Dizi may be leaving, but so may new guy at this rate.

Spoke too soon. Anna went back only to cook for Phil, then went back to sleep with Ivo, where she will end up permanently. But not in Ivo's bed. So Petra will be back and she must have told them not to sleep in her bed. Will Ivo be able to get it up later?

The whole thing is bizaare. They cleared out from Voronezh so Anna and Ivo could have sex. Dizi slept in Akira's bed. Then Phil went back and is alone with Anna, and Ivo went back to Tver and is with Akira and new guy. Don't these people ever sleep? How does Phil deal with Anna after that? They actually seem ok. I guess that is the way it is in the VV scheme of things. Ivo will fuck Anna then they go back and sleep in their beds. Very strange. I think Slapjack is right, they let them fuck who they want as long as it staged for maximum effect. They seem to like to let them roam from apartment to apartment to let things happen as they may. By the way, it was funny when they were earlier playing a blindfold game and Phil stuck his cock by Anna's face. Why was she a bit shocked, she sucked off Phil before. And how come she doesn't blow Ivo or play with him, it might have helped him stay hard before when he was fucking her. Not like Akira's redhead who can suck like no one else. Her blowjobs and swallowing of Akira's cum cemented his interest in her as his gf. Will see if Anna can do that. Really, all she does is let him fuck him mostly in one position. Boring!

I just realized it, Anna wants to be Ivo's Akira's gf. She acts just like redhead. She is all over him, hugging and snuggling with him and fucking him whenever he wants. Only problem with her strategy is that Ivo isn't Akira and he will eventually tire of her clinginess. The sex will keep him for only so long. Once they get new girls, he will seek them out. And I don't know what happened with Petra. Is she leaving? Why didn't they just have sex in Petra's bed since she is out? Maybe she told them they could have sex but not in her bed. And where is Phil and new guy? Dizi is talking to Akira in Tver.

Yeah, but Ivo is enamored of her and doesn't have a gf. Akira has a great gf and couldn't stand Tanya. Watch, Ivo and Sonia will last a while.

I've given up on Phil and Sonia (I must be stupid because Phil gave up a while ago!). Soni and Ivo are permanent. She even fucked him while on her period! Is Petra gone? Dizi gone? Basically, its just Sonia and Ivo and Akira and his gf on the weekends. Otherwise, this site is dead. Phil and new guy are great buds, happy Phil has a buddy. But this site is going to go through big changes soon and I'm sure not for the better. Well, I have about a week to go in my month.

Sonia is the Petra of Voronezh. She struts around naked, fucks Ivo in public and is wanton. What's said is Phil doesn't even care.

Phil has absolutely no chance with Sonia. She is so enamored of Ivo and has very little to do with Phil. If Dizi leaves, it will be a sad day. I now have come to the conclusion that Sonia's affection for Ivo is real, but her things with Phil are a bit of pity stuff for Phil and a little show. They really should move Sonia in with Ivo and get aa new girl for Phil. Phil and Dizi are the best people but neither is fated to find love or lust through VV.

Thanks for the analysis, Slapjack. You've been here a few weeks more than me. I agree with the analysis. I just don't know if I can deal with this stuff. You want to have some feelings for the people. Like I associated with Phil and then fell for Sonia like he did. I think Phil does like her for more than sex, but Sonia thinks of him as a friend. The sexual actions between them if any seem scripted. Oops, I'm ascribing feelings to them again. And I like Dizi because she seems reluctant, thus more real, but maybe she is just having a hard time with her assigned job. The others, other than redhead, I have no sympathy or feeling for. I like Sonia, but she is clearly playing a role and doing it well. The problem is, I can and do watch porn for sex, which is pure sex no feelings. So, I don't need to watch sex that acts like it is unscripted but really is scripted. I don't like being taken for a fool! I'll watch through my first month, then decide what I want to do. At least rlc is mostly real. True, it is boring mostly, although there are a few sex filled apartments with people who just enjoy sex with their true lovers. Nora's apartment was the apartment that most got hung up on because the girls were real girls, but even there was very scripted moments. I'm beginning to understand the whole voyeur movement. They are giving us what we seek, but of necessity this makes the experience fake. The true voyeur site would just have young people who like sex with each other be exhibitionists, forget about the cameras and carry on their lives as normal, only we would see it and also get nudity and sex. But this sounds like a fantasy. In other words it would be a RLC on steroids with no reluctant participants. In real life, most people even young do not have sex all the time, so it would still be fake. Oh, well, who knows?

Thanks, Canito. Glad to find a RLC follower who also loved K & K, but wanted more when they left and several other apartments failed. I think V & V is an attempt to be outrageously sexy, a clear contrast from RLC. But its managers are control freaks who are basically putting on a show or shows. Encouraging the participants to have sex and fun is ok, but not to orchestrate events. And it may be a matter of how you recruit the people. If you tell people we want people who just want to have sex with no attachments and put on a show but make people think they have real feelings for each other, then we feel betrayed when we find out its only for the cameras. It won't work long term. Already, Tver is running out of sex games that aren't silly. I think Voronezh is slightly more realistic. Don't mind sexy dances and seductive things between the particiants but want some real feelings. Whole idea may be unrealistic.

Yeah, I know what you mean Slapjack. Sometimes this whole site seems so contrived. You don't know what to believe is real. You want to believe there are at least some real emotions at times. Like I want to believe that Phil is in head over heels over Anna, but who knows? Maybe he just wants sex with her. By the way, I do believe that about Phil but don't know.And I want to believe that Anna likes him although doesn't want an attachment, but maybe they told her to start fooling around with Phil again since Ivo seems temporarily off limits thanks to Petra. Also, new guy, Dizi suddenly starts warming up to him, yet I don't think she is too comfortable having sex with him. He keeps touching her boobs and she subtly stops him without discouraging him. If suddenly they have sex, it will look like VV asked her to do it. What is real? Only Akira and his gf seem real, although just a couple of weeks ago Akira was fooling around with Tanya while redhead was away. To be honest, I have been a subscriber to RLC from before I joined VV about a month ago. I was discouraged by RLC, which is more real than VV, by some old stale relationships and the loss of the Barcelona apartment and K & K. But, VV, while there is more sex is much less real. Is there some middle ground between the two? Like people who love sex and fun and are couples along with guests and parties without contrived silly sex games. Kind of like Nelly and Bogdan and Masha and Sasha and Adriana and Daniel. Need exhibitionists who don't mind the cameras but are real couples with real lives. That to me is true voyeur with sex.

Really? Petra will do anything for the team apparently.