Mate, maybe I got this place all wrong.
See to me this forum is like turning up at a mates bbq with a few beers and a bottle of scotch, oh yeah and some wine for the ladies. People just come and go, some you know and some you don't. Some are total fuckwits (the f word again, my bad) but who gives a shit (is shit ok?) you just ignore them.
And as normally happens when a few blokes get together and have a few beers, you talk a lot, mostly shit, about cars, sport, more cars, women, even more cars, generally in that order. And yes there's always one that wants to talk about bikes. Every now and then some dickhead (what about dick, is that ok?) will mention religion or politics, and the shit hits the fan and things get all serious, a few punches might even get thrown. Anyway, after the women come over and settle things down, everything gets back to normal and the whole thing eventually starts all over again.
Yep, sometimes some topics do get serious and heat up real quick, but that's the nature of the beast. And like everyone else, I have my pet loves and hates and will fight to the end to defend them.
No one really takes it seriously and generally by Monday morning, most people have forgotten all about it, you are too interested in working out who is having the next barbie to care.
And who holds the best barbies? Well on this forum, the likes of tbg, Woody, Pepe, Squirrel and a few others who I apologise to for leaving you out, you know who you are.
Some people don't get invited, but turn up anyway, like Nick, but that prick (oops) will always let you know he's there and it doesn't take much to shut him up. Others will just sneak in and hang around in the shadows, hoping to connect with someone or something. I'm sure that's why my dog always appears traumatised when the barbies have been at my place.
Anyway, that's my spin on the place. If your looking for intelligent, sophisticated and cultured discussions, and social intercourse, mate I think you are on the wrong fucking planet.
The only thing you have in the wrong place it should be woman cars and more woman others I agree with everything you said.